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kdailey4315 said:
You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.
 

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darocker80 said:
kdailey4315 said:
You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
 

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matty07 said:
darocker80 said:
kdailey4315 said:
You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)
 

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darocker80 said:
matty07 said:
darocker80 said:
kdailey4315 said:
You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for **** but he shines in other areas
 

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matty07 said:
darocker80 said:
matty07 said:
darocker80 said:
kdailey4315 said:
You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for shat but he shines in other areas
True, also i feel he should get a little bit of credit for Lincecum's 2 Cy youngs, especially at 24 and 25 in his first two full seasons.
 

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darocker80 said:
matty07 said:
darocker80 said:
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[quote="kdailey4315":34zsimla]You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for shat but he shines in other areas
True, also i feel he should get a little bit of credit for Lincecum's 2 Cy youngs, especially at 24 and 25 in his first two full seasons.[/quote:34zsimla]


Ya I would slightly agree. Too bad he wont win his 3rd with The Doc in town :)
 

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matty07 said:
darocker80 said:
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[quote="darocker80":sk81f5a4][quote="kdailey4315":sk81f5a4]You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for shat but he shines in other areas
True, also i feel he should get a little bit of credit for Lincecum's 2 Cy youngs, especially at 24 and 25 in his first two full seasons.[/quote:sk81f5a4]


Ya I would slightly agree. Too bad he wont win his 3rd with The Doc in town :)[/quote:sk81f5a4]

I smell a bet coming on. How confident are you in that?
 

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[quote="darocker80":2tkqqijt][quote="kdailey4315":2tkqqijt]You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for shat but he shines in other areas
True, also i feel he should get a little bit of credit for Lincecum's 2 Cy youngs, especially at 24 and 25 in his first two full seasons.[/quote:2tkqqijt]


Ya I would slightly agree. Too bad he wont win his 3rd with The Doc in town :)[/quote:2tkqqijt]
We shall see. Gonna be interesting between Lincecum, Johan and Doc....with cain and haren and wainwright right there with them.
 

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kdailey4315 said:
You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki


Hip Hip?
 

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[quote="matty07":3f5lsoim][quote="darocker80":3f5lsoim][quote="kdailey4315":3f5lsoim]You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for shat but he shines in other areas
True, also i feel he should get a little bit of credit for Lincecum's 2 Cy youngs, especially at 24 and 25 in his first two full seasons.[/quote:3f5lsoim]


Ya I would slightly agree. Too bad he wont win his 3rd with The Doc in town :)[/quote:3f5lsoim]

I smell a bet coming on. How confident are you in that?[/quote:3f5lsoim]


Im 100% confident unless he gets hurt...with the Phillies offense and the fact he's not pitching in the AL East I'm calling 25+ wins
 

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gonzagacubs said:
Alfonso Soriano and Fukudome deserve mentions in this thread.


Fukodome has started out pretty nice, and Soriano is a waste of money, but not the worst starting player....I would say Soto is worse than him
 

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matty07 said:
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[quote="darocker80":2mmovf74][quote="matty07":2mmovf74][quote="darocker80":2mmovf74][quote="kdailey4315":2mmovf74]You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for shat but he shines in other areas
True, also i feel he should get a little bit of credit for Lincecum's 2 Cy youngs, especially at 24 and 25 in his first two full seasons.[/quote:2mmovf74]


Ya I would slightly agree. Too bad he wont win his 3rd with The Doc in town :)[/quote:2mmovf74]

I smell a bet coming on. How confident are you in that?[/quote:2mmovf74]


Im 100% confident unless he gets hurt...with the Phillies offense and the fact he's not pitching in the AL East I'm calling 25+ wins[/quote:2mmovf74]
Hmm the most winningest cy young season pitcher hasn't won in the last two years :P heck a 15 winner won :P

With the way the Giants are playing with an upgraded offense i feel it should be tighter then you think.
 

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ahill1 said:
gonzagacubs said:
Alfonso Soriano and Fukudome deserve mentions in this thread.


Fukodome has started out pretty nice, and Soriano is a waste of money, but not the worst starting player....I would say Soto is worse than him


Speaking of Soto what int he world is up with him. Completely useless since his rookie year. What has gone wrong??
 

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darocker80 said:
matty07 said:
kdailey4315 said:
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[quote="matty07":1juh4ro2][quote="darocker80":1juh4ro2][quote="matty07":1juh4ro2][quote="darocker80":1juh4ro2][quote="kdailey4315":1juh4ro2]You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for shat but he shines in other areas
True, also i feel he should get a little bit of credit for Lincecum's 2 Cy youngs, especially at 24 and 25 in his first two full seasons.[/quote:1juh4ro2]


Ya I would slightly agree. Too bad he wont win his 3rd with The Doc in town :)[/quote:1juh4ro2]

I smell a bet coming on. How confident are you in that?[/quote:1juh4ro2]


Im 100% confident unless he gets hurt...with the Phillies offense and the fact he's not pitching in the AL East I'm calling 25+ wins[/quote:1juh4ro2]
Hmm the most winningest cy young season pitcher hasn't won in the last two years :P heck a 15 winner won :P

With the way the Giants are playing with an upgraded offense i feel it should be tighter then you think.[/quote:1juh4ro2]

It's pretty hilarious how much you guys are overrating Bengie Molina. He is a TERRIBLE offensive catcher. Hitting 4th in the lineup of course gives him more RBI opportunities, but you can have the HRs for his absolutely atrocious OBP. Give me a Joe Mauer pre-2009 type catcher (never hit more than 13 HRs in a single season) yet was 100000000000x the offensive player that Molina ever was. Bengie flat out sucks.
 

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matty07 said:
ahill1 said:
gonzagacubs said:
Alfonso Soriano and Fukudome deserve mentions in this thread.


Fukodome has started out pretty nice, and Soriano is a waste of money, but not the worst starting player....I would say Soto is worse than him


Speaking of Soto what int he world is up with him. Completely useless since his rookie year. What has gone wrong??

He needs to turn a reverse Ankiel and become a pitcher.
 

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darocker80 said:
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[quote="matty07":u9gslzp5][quote="darocker80":u9gslzp5][quote="matty07":u9gslzp5][quote="darocker80":u9gslzp5][quote="kdailey4315":u9gslzp5]You should try watching a Giants game before claiming that Molina is one of the worst everday players. Here's the very short list of Catchers that had better offensive numbers last year.

Joe Mauer
Víctor Martínez
Brian McCann
Matt Wieters
Russell Martin
Mike Napoli
Kurt Suzuki
eh you can also argue yadier to be ahead of bengie offesnivley last year

Last year Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria. Edgar is trying to change that though.


Martin wasnt very good last year. Molina had a much better season than him
Ah that's true he had an off year and I'd Molina's .265 20 Hr 91 RBI over Matts .288 9 Hr 43 RBI (despite 400 at bats only)


I think he's deffinetly one of the better offensive catchers in the league. I was very dissapointed when the Jays let him go. Ya he cant run for shat but he shines in other areas
True, also i feel he should get a little bit of credit for Lincecum's 2 Cy youngs, especially at 24 and 25 in his first two full seasons.[/quote:u9gslzp5]


Ya I would slightly agree. Too bad he wont win his 3rd with The Doc in town :)[/quote:u9gslzp5]

I smell a bet coming on. How confident are you in that?[/quote:u9gslzp5]


Im 100% confident unless he gets hurt...with the Phillies offense and the fact he's not pitching in the AL East I'm calling 25+ wins[/quote:u9gslzp5]
Hmm the most winningest cy young season pitcher hasn't won in the last two years :P heck a 15 winner won :P

With the way the Giants are playing with an upgraded offense i feel it should be tighter then you think.[/quote:u9gslzp5]


Ill bet you your orange 9.5 Lincy..Halladay wins Cy :)
 

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It's pretty hilarious how much you guys are overrating Bengie Molina. He is a TERRIBLE offensive catcher. Hitting 4th in the lineup of course gives him more RBI opportunities, but you can have the HRs for his absolutely atrocious OBP. Give me a Joe Mauer pre-2009 type catcher (never hit more than 13 HRs in a single season) yet was 100000000000x the offensive player that Molina ever was. Bengie flat out sucks.[/quote]


But is he the worst starting playing in the league. Not even close
 

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ahill1 said:
gonzagacubs said:
Alfonso Soriano and Fukudome deserve mentions in this thread.


Fukodome has started out pretty nice, and Soriano is a waste of money, but not the worst starting player....I would say Soto is worse than him

Fair enough. I grouped him Soriano because he can't hit left-handed pitching. Below .200 against lefties. Soto, I agree, can be added to this list.
 

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gonzagacubs said:
ahill1 said:
gonzagacubs said:
Alfonso Soriano and Fukudome deserve mentions in this thread.


Fukodome has started out pretty nice, and Soriano is a waste of money, but not the worst starting player....I would say Soto is worse than him

Fair enough. I grouped him Soriano because he can't hit left-handed pitching. Below .200 against lefties. Soto, I agree, can be added to this list.


I hate Soto. He screwed me big time last year in my fantasy league hahah
 

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