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WTF!?!?!?! MIKE LEACH FIRED?!!?!?!!?!?!

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Seems to me like he will be able to file some sort of lawsuit. Wrongfull termination at the very least due to "allegations". If his lawyer is worth a crap he is probably salivating thinking about what his cut will be.
 

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I had always heard he "rubbed" the university faculty and higher-ups the wrong way, and this may have given them the "evidence" to dump him.

I'm not saying I agree with the decision at all, it just may have been more "fuel for the fire".
 

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From the reports on espn Leach wasn't being too cooperative with TT admin

He was playing hardball and being stubborn and he now learned who is the real boss in charge


What he did was harmless BUT what positive could have been done by putting that kid in that garage/ "shed" and also that media room?

That is the main thing. As a coach/educator he must answer that question. What good could come from his actions? None! It was just punitive

Ryo I undertsand you live and die red raider blood but can you answer the above question?
That's why he was fired!!!!!
 

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One needs to separate Adam James and him being a wuss and the actions taken by Leach

The fact that James was being a pud meant Leach should have been even more careful with his actions

Bottom line is as a coach how did sending the kid to those locations make that kid a better player/teammate/person?
 

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Just plain stupid.I seriously doubt he did what James says he did.I think it was just a way to get back at Leach and it ultimately led to all of this.I say kick Sherman out and hire Leach at A&M.
 

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If Leach knew he had unhealthy relationship with James kid and/or TT admin, then he should have thought before he decided to make his coaching decision a punitive action / punishment
 

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Daltonb1219 said:
Thats fracking bull shat.

Nope. Not at all.
He was punitive with one of his players
NOTHING positive can occur with isolating a player away from team and putting him in those 2 locations
Sure it wasn't a torture chamber like some were making it out to be BUT if Leach cannot justify what positive can happen by putting James Kid in those locations and he won't admit his fault then he needed to go

Instead, he was being stubborn and refused to apologize and decided to challenge the university

My prediction is a long drawn out lawsuit where Leach gets a bunch of $$$$ (just to end it quicker) but not anywhere near his $8M or whatveer he had
coming on rest of contract


You (anyone who is pissed) need to separate your emotions from the facts when looking at this situation. Don't concentrate on the quality of the rooms he was placed in or the fact that the kid had attitude problems. The bottom line is that as a coach and educator you are supposed to look out for the best interests of the players and NOTHING positive can happen from the action Leach took
 

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The question of whether James is a mama's boy who was milking an injury became irrelevant the minute Leach confined him. A university can't and won't stand by anyone where there's any evidence of improper treatment. No matter whether it was a shed, closet or whatever, it seems pretty clear that Leach had the kid placed in some kind of space for some period of time to make an example of him. What he did was the equivalent of hazing the kid. Not necessarily harmful but still unacceptable. Why not just send him home?

Like it or not, that kind of stuff just doesn't fly anymore, especially if the kid has a documented medical condition with the concussions. That's a lawsuit waiting to happen. And the fact that by all accounts Leach has been a total a-hole to the higher ups at the school certainly didn't help his cause. To me it sounds like he's a bully who thinks he's untouchable simply because he's won a few football games at a second tier Big 12 school (no offense Nate ;) ). Good riddance.
 

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Billy Packer said:
Why not just send him home?

Great advice. The kid has a brain bleed and dies at home. Now that's a great way to get the university sued to the gills.

Send his ass to the hospital and get him an MRI. That's how you cover the university's liability. Sending the kid home is one of the most irresponsible things that could have been done and is more irresponsible than what was allegedly done.
 

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justinmandawg said:
Billy Packer said:
Why not just send him home?

Great advice. The kid has a brain bleed and dies at home. Now that's a great way to get the university sued to the gills.

Send his ass to the hospital and get him an MRI. That's how you cover the university's liability. Sending the kid home is one of the most irresponsible things that could have been done and is more irresponsible than what was allegedly done.


If I understand the incident(s) correctly, the confinements happened some time after the concussions, not at the time of. The question apparently was over his fitness and readiness to return to practice. Thanks for the dramatics though. ::facepalm::
 

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Billy Packer said:
justinmandawg said:
[quote="Billy Packer":4qkcu9pu]Why not just send him home?

Great advice. The kid has a brain bleed and dies at home. Now that's a great way to get the university sued to the gills.

Send his ass to the hospital and get him an MRI. That's how you cover the university's liability. Sending the kid home is one of the most irresponsible things that could have been done and is more irresponsible than what was allegedly done.


If I understand the incident(s) correctly, the confinements happened some time after the concussions, not at the time of. The question apparently was over his fitness and readiness to return to practice. Thanks for the dramatics though. ::facepalm::[/quote:4qkcu9pu]


Great advice Doctor. Way to limit liability.
 

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These players nowadays wouldn't have lasted a day under Bear Bryant. James would have thrown up his lungs the 1st day.

This all started because James came to pratice with shades on and boasted that he didn't have to pratice. This rubbed Leake the wrong way because it is rumored that James had no problem going out partying yet couldn't pratice the day of the night he went out partying.
 

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justinmandawg said:
Billy Packer said:
justinmandawg said:
[quote="Billy Packer":1k2etm1t]Why not just send him home?

Great advice. The kid has a brain bleed and dies at home. Now that's a great way to get the university sued to the gills.

Send his ass to the hospital and get him an MRI. That's how you cover the university's liability. Sending the kid home is one of the most irresponsible things that could have been done and is more irresponsible than what was allegedly done.


If I understand the incident(s) correctly, the confinements happened some time after the concussions, not at the time of. The question apparently was over his fitness and readiness to return to practice. Thanks for the dramatics though. ::facepalm::


Great advice Doctor. Way to limit liability.[/quote:1k2etm1t]


What are you - stupid or ignorant?
 

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Billy Packer said:
justinmandawg said:
[quote="Billy Packer":1m1ndjs9]
justinmandawg said:
[quote="Billy Packer":1m1ndjs9]Why not just send him home?

Great advice. The kid has a brain bleed and dies at home. Now that's a great way to get the university sued to the gills.

Send his ass to the hospital and get him an MRI. That's how you cover the university's liability. Sending the kid home is one of the most irresponsible things that could have been done and is more irresponsible than what was allegedly done.


If I understand the incident(s) correctly, the confinements happened some time after the concussions, not at the time of. The question apparently was over his fitness and readiness to return to practice. Thanks for the dramatics though. ::facepalm::


Great advice Doctor. Way to limit liability.[/quote:1m1ndjs9]


What are you - stupid or ignorant?[/quote:1m1ndjs9]

You advocate proper treatment then advise something that would do more damage. Brilliant idea Fudge.
 

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Billy Packer said:
The question of whether James is a mama's boy who was milking an injury became irrelevant the minute Leach confined him. A university can't and won't stand by anyone where there's any evidence of improper treatment. No matter whether it was a shed, closet or whatever, it seems pretty clear that Leach had the kid placed in some kind of space for some period of time to make an example of him. What he did was the equivalent of hazing the kid. Not necessarily harmful but still unacceptable. Why not just send him home?

Like it or not, that kind of stuff just doesn't fly anymore, especially if the kid has a documented medical condition with the concussions. That's a lawsuit waiting to happen. And the fact that by all accounts Leach has been a total a-hole to the higher ups at the school certainly didn't help his cause. To me it sounds like he's a bully who thinks he's untouchable simply because he's won a few football games at a second tier Big 12 school (no offense Nate ;) ). Good riddance.



100% correct and what I've been saying
Leach cannot justify what good came from his action
Too many focusing on A James being a momma's boy
That has NOTHING to do with why leach got canned
I do however think Leach will get some cash in next few months
 

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Billy Packer said:
justinmandawg said:
[quote="Billy Packer":2k6ra7tc]Why not just send him home?

Great advice. The kid has a brain bleed and dies at home. Now that's a great way to get the university sued to the gills.

Send his ass to the hospital and get him an MRI. That's how you cover the university's liability. Sending the kid home is one of the most irresponsible things that could have been done and is more irresponsible than what was allegedly done.


If I understand the incident(s) correctly, the confinements happened some time after the concussions, not at the time of. The question apparently was over his fitness and readiness to return to practice. Thanks for the dramatics though. ::facepalm::[/quote:2k6ra7tc]


I think you're correct
He didn't have a concussion at that practice
The poor judgement by Leach started after James mentioned he couldn't practice and wasn't cleared to play
 

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justinmandawg said:
Billy Packer said:
justinmandawg said:
[quote="Billy Packer":35tnytaa]
justinmandawg said:
[quote="Billy Packer":35tnytaa]Why not just send him home?

Great advice. The kid has a brain bleed and dies at home. Now that's a great way to get the university sued to the gills.

Send his ass to the hospital and get him an MRI. That's how you cover the university's liability. Sending the kid home is one of the most irresponsible things that could have been done and is more irresponsible than what was allegedly done.


If I understand the incident(s) correctly, the confinements happened some time after the concussions, not at the time of. The question apparently was over his fitness and readiness to return to practice. Thanks for the dramatics though. ::facepalm::


Great advice Doctor. Way to limit liability.


What are you - stupid or ignorant?[/quote:35tnytaa]

You advocate proper treatment then advise something that would do more damage. Brilliant idea Fudge.[/quote:35tnytaa]

What about this aren't you getting??? The question isn't whether he was at risk walking around, going to class or whatever - if that was the case, wouldn't he have been hospitalized already, Dr. Quinn? It was about whether he was fit to PLAY FOOTBALL. ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm::
 

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