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Leaf · Oct 4, 2011

Guys....

We have had a problem develop. Ichiro's Metal autograph cards were damnaged in shipping. Rather than put out damaged cards, we feel we must find another solution..... Thus, we have two choices:

1> reprint metal cards and have him sign on-card.... It would be a redemption that will take 60-90 days to fill....

2> Create a new Exquisite style JUMBO OVERSIZE PREMIUM GAME USED PATCH card for him to sign on card.... It would not be metal, but would be a Jumbo Oversize Premium Game Used Patch card signed on-card!!... It would be a redemption taking 30-45 days to fill...

Fire away... All opinions welcome with prizes randomly awarded to those who share opinions...BG

TBTwinsFan · Oct 4, 2011

I voted for Exquisite.

They are both on card, but we would get a nice patch and shorter waiting time.

Jaypers · Oct 4, 2011

I voted for Option B.

One thing better than an on-card auto is an on-card auto with a patch included. Plus, the shorter waiting time is the icing on the cake, at least for me.

Zymco · Oct 4, 2011

Obviously you are doing the right thing by not putting out the damaged cards. I would just fill in the original metals as replacements. That's how it was featured on the sell sheet and I really was digging the design. I dont think it's a huge deal that he will now be a redemption as long as you do it the right way.

May I ask what will be done with the damaged ichiro metals?

Leaf · Oct 4, 2011

Zymco said:
Obviously you are doing the right thing by not putting out the damaged cards. I would just fill in the original metals as replacements. That's how it was featured on the sell sheet and I really was digging the design. I dont think it's a huge deal that he will now be a redemption as long as you do it the right way.

May I ask what will be done with the damaged ichiro metals?

DESTRUCTION MANIA!
BG

uniquebaseballcards · Oct 4, 2011

You should always try to do what you said you were going to do as much as possible, thus choice "A". Besides, choice "B" will require extra explanation.

AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR · Oct 4, 2011

I voted on card redemption....We know your NOT Topps or UD. A month or two for a redemption is NOTHING. I have redemptions that are over a year old for both Topps & UD. I think the oversized is nice, but alot of collectors do not like the oversized cards. Storage / display problems.

Sorry to hear about the problem, but again you came here and explain, I'll wait for the redemption....

TBTwinsFan · Oct 4, 2011

Leaf said:
Zymco said:

Obviously you are doing the right thing by not putting out the damaged cards. I would just fill in the original metals as replacements. That's how it was featured on the sell sheet and I really was digging the design. I dont think it's a huge deal that he will now be a redemption as long as you do it the right way.

May I ask what will be done with the damaged ichiro metals?

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DESTRUCTION MANIA!
BG

I would buy a cut of one or two of them.

nevermore · Oct 4, 2011

Sorry about the damage, anyway to salvage them? Make cuts perhaps.

Definitely the second option. The jumbo patch autos would be a huge hit, far superior to metal/chrome cards. If you keep a scanned database of them as you had mentioned, these will be huge in the secondary market and drive sales.

BunchOBull · Oct 4, 2011

This is a serious comment...both.

Reason being, if buyers were expecting the Metal autos, that was probably a large factor in their respective decisions to purchase the product. As a manufacturer, you'll receive major CS points for going above and beyond to fulfill a promise.

The jumbo swatch autos are just awesome, and can be included in multiple Leaf products as a "celebration"-type addition to further promote the monumental signing of Ichiro.

sportscardtheory · Oct 4, 2011

I chose option 2, but definitely make the damaged auto cards into cut autos and add them as a bonus for those who buy a lot of the product. Or maybe just "free damaged Ichiro auto" box-toppers.

Greg Cleveland · Oct 4, 2011

Design is a big factor on both. I'm not a big fan of patch cards, so I voted for A. Is it a vertical or horizontal design? I picture vertical for the patch, could see horizontal working for the metal cards. Wait time doesn't matter to me, as long as there's some confidence in it being filled within stated time. You've heard all the complaints; sounds like you are putting some specific time frames for redemption. That gives me more confidence in redeeming it to keep (or sell later) than instantly selling just because it's a redemption.

Leaf · Oct 4, 2011

The cards would be standard size...

Its just it would have a JUMBO PREMIUM PATCH...

Ichiro has ZERO oversized premium Patch autos...

I think the autos would bring $400 or so..
The premium patches $600+..

what do yall think?

we have to pick one... cannot run it both ways...
BG

TomMurry · Oct 4, 2011

If its just a jumbo patch auto, Id go with that. I wasnt sure if I was reading it correctly as an oversize patch or an oversize card.
Patch Autos appeal to multiple types of collectors. With the Mariners colors, it would be a great addition.

People dont want to wait for 3 months for 1 card when they could have an "upgraded" version sooner.

On card vs on card, but 1 is a patch and 1 isnt.
Really seems like everything points to the patch:
Patch vs no patch
Shorter wait time
appeal to more types of collectors
more visual appeal over a plain auto

Id be interested to know what will happen to the damaged ones as well as what actually happened to damage them and how serious the damage is.
Tom

jondawg04 · Oct 4, 2011

Key question for would be buyers here is, what would the difference be in the print run between the two options? Obviously the cost of the jersey would have to be factored in to the production, thereby decreasing the amount of signatures included for this specific product. If, for example, the options turn to having 200 Ichiro autographed metal cards w/ a 90 day wait versus 50 Ichiro autographed non-metal patch cards w/ a 45 day wait, then I'm not too sure what the buyers would prefer. Double the wait but four times the chance of pulling an Ichiro auto may be a better option for those busting. Obviously my point is worthless if you planned on having the same amount of signatures included regardless, but from a business perspective it makes sense to have different runs w/ the additional cost to produce the patch cards.

ronzo · Oct 4, 2011

I went with B. Especially if they're available for viewing in an online database I think they could be a huge hit.

MojoDan · Oct 4, 2011

Option B

I think oversized patches are a great aspect of the hobby. 05 TOTT, Prime Patches, Ultimate: all of them have pretty great staying power as far as collectors go and not just for set builders. Think about how many people refer to those sets as their favorites because if the size of the patches and the quality in which they were done.

Thats my opinion anyway...

Leaf · Oct 4, 2011

jondawg04 said:
Key question for would be buyers here is, what would the difference be in the print run between the two options? Obviously the cost of the jersey would have to be factored in to the production, thereby decreasing the amount of signatures included for this specific product. If, for example, the options turn to having 200 Ichiro autographed metal cards w/ a 90 day wait versus 50 Ichiro autographed non-metal patch cards w/ a 45 day wait, then I'm not too sure what the buyers would prefer. Double the wait but four times the chance of pulling an Ichiro auto may be a better option for those busting. Obviously my point is worthless if you planned on having the same amount of signatures included regardless, but from a business perspective it makes sense to have different runs w/ the additional cost to produce the patch cards.

The quantity inserted would be exactly the same.
BG

Leaf · Oct 4, 2011

ronzo said:
I went with B. Especially if they're available for viewing in an online database I think they could be a huge hit.

and they would be

TomMurry · Oct 4, 2011

I think choosing B with an added option of cataloging each patch to be seen online would be great and would prevent fakes.

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