Grading advice 67 Brooks Robinson

rookieaddict · Nov 10, 2011

Pick this up at a flea market really inexpensively. Do you guys think I should grade it or flip it raw? I usually submit to BGS, should I go PSA with this? Any opinions are welcome, thanks.

KLARNOLD · Nov 10, 2011

Are you sure that is not a reprint? The green color on the back is almost too sharp/crisp compared to other images on ebay & google. The black line below the Printed in USA does not extend to the edge of white box (this could be a printing error).

Lifelongfan · Nov 10, 2011

I think on those reprints they put the year of production on the back of the card...it was one of the only ways to tell sometimes. The card looks clean...maybe 7.5 or 8.

ThoseBackPages · Nov 11, 2011

something looks "off" about the card. Keep in mind this is a pretty high dollar card. Measure it quite well to see if it's been trimmed.

markakis8 · Nov 11, 2011

If you ARE going to get it graded, go PSA - BGS is not the way to go with vintage.

rookieaddict · Nov 11, 2011

KLARNOLD said:
Are you sure that is not a reprint? The green color on the back is almost too sharp/crisp compared to other images on ebay & google. The black line below the Printed in USA does not extend to the edge of white box (this could be a printing error).

The color might be a little distorted by the color correction on my scanner, although when I purchased it I thought it was bright. I matched it up with other 67's I have and it's awfully close if not an exact match with some of the higher grade versions I have. As for the line, I had noticed that too, but looking at other 67 backs those lines can be all over the place.

It is a situation where it may seem to good to be true, so I wouldn't be too surprised if it were a reprint. I'll have to sub it to find out I guess.

rookieaddict · Nov 11, 2011

ThoseBackPages said:
something looks "off" about the card. Keep in mind this is a pretty high dollar card. Measure it quite well to see if it's been trimmed.

It measures out.

nyc3 · Nov 11, 2011

ThoseBackPages said:
something looks "off" about the card. Keep in mind this is a pretty high dollar card. Measure it quite well to see if it's been trimmed.

+1

George_Calfas · Nov 11, 2011

rookieaddict said:
Pick this up at a flea market really inexpensively. Do you guys think I should grade it or flip it raw? I usually submit to BGS, should I go PSA with this? Any opinions are welcome, thanks.

I added a PSA6 to the right for comparison.

rookieaddict · Nov 11, 2011

George_Calfas said:
rookieaddict said:

Pick this up at a flea market really inexpensively. Do you guys think I should grade it or flip it raw? I usually submit to BGS, should I go PSA with this? Any opinions are welcome, thanks.

Click to expand...

I added a PSA6 to the right for comparison.

Looks like I may have gambled and lost. May still submit to get a definitive answer.

George_Calfas · Nov 11, 2011

rookieaddict said:
George_Calfas said:

rookieaddict said:

Pick this up at a flea market really inexpensively. Do you guys think I should grade it or flip it raw? I usually submit to BGS, should I go PSA with this? Any opinions are welcome, thanks.

Click to expand...

I added a PSA6 to the right for comparison.

Click to expand...

Looks like I may have gambled and lost. May still submit to get a definitive answer.

Might be the only way to know.

morgoth · Nov 11, 2011

Reprints are often less thick than the original version, if you have 67s floating around, look and see the thickness of the card. Also holding a flashlight up to the card sometimes shows thin paperstock by the amount of light you can see through the card.

smapdi · Nov 11, 2011

I agree something looks off on it. If you ever saw that episode of Pawn Stars where the guy brought in some 67 Pete Roses that looked so fake it came through the screen, it's not quite like that but some alarms are ringing. Too bright whites, and the overall condition is to nice to be a flea market find, in my cynical mind.

In any case, PSA is the way to go on that card. 1967 is one of the most popular and competitive sets on the Registry. It wouldn't 9, but probably 8.

deujr61 · Nov 11, 2011

Looks like possibly a PSA 8 OC at best and might sell for around $150.

matfanofold · Nov 11, 2011

George_Calfas said:
rookieaddict said:

Pick this up at a flea market really inexpensively. Do you guys think I should grade it or flip it raw? I usually submit to BGS, should I go PSA with this? Any opinions are welcome, thanks.

Click to expand...

I added a PSA6 to the right for comparison.

You had said this card measured out? Because if you look at the psa 6, the green border on the left and right of the white statistics box are both thicker than on your raw one. And by a considerable, noticable, margin. Could anything possibly make that happen besides trimming?

rookieaddict · Nov 11, 2011

matfanofold said:
George_Calfas said:

rookieaddict said:

Pick this up at a flea market really inexpensively. Do you guys think I should grade it or flip it raw? I usually submit to BGS, should I go PSA with this? Any opinions are welcome, thanks.

Click to expand...

I added a PSA6 to the right for comparison.

Click to expand...

You had said this card measured out? Because if you look at the psa 6, the green border on the left and right of the white statistics box are both thicker than on your raw one. And by a considerable, noticable, margin. Could anything possibly make that happen besides trimming?

Not sure, I'll remeasure it when I get home tonight

rookieaddict · Nov 11, 2011

Here's some pics, it measures up. But the stock looks too clean on the edges, too white.

fkw · Nov 11, 2011

Im not an expert on modern counterfeits, more of one with PreWar...

But Ive seen that overrated card for 35 years now.. ans within 1 second it looked way off

The back is way too white, and the stock looks too smooth and thin (ie modern card stock rather than the lower quality 44 years old stock they used.
Plus it was sold Raw, a minor red flag, but still a red flag
Any flea market clown knows what a Topps card is worth, they have the internet

the good thing is the print is very crisp, but I still cant get over the colors being way off

If you have other 1967T cards, grab 2-3 of them add them with the BRoby and scan the backs all in the same scan

Also Like someone said .....use a powerful light (backlit) and compare it with another common 1967T

PS, that card sold for more money 25 years ago than it does today, so I guess it is not so overrated anymore....

fkw · Nov 11, 2011

After comparing the front to other scans, the card has many of the same problems as PreWar counterfeits. The light parts of the card are too white compared to the dark parts. the first thing I see is the bat (at top) is nearly the same color as the border, while an authentic card the bat is the normal yellow/brown wood color far from the color of the white border. This fact alone points to the card being a counterfeit. Many fakers cant get the contrast right after they re-screen the image when making these.

also on a small point......... the borders are too narrow, also a common fault of counterfeits, they have trouble getting the projection right and when cut to size the border are often too wide or too narrow.

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