thoughts on getting a superfractor autographed in person????

predatorkj · Aug 15, 2013

I'd never get something like that signed, pc or not. Reason being is we all kick the bucket eventually and yes I am sure someone will buy it but it takes the choice out of their hands. With a card that isn't as limited, people can decide whether or not they want yours if it is ever for sale. With a 1/1, a supercollector might come along and now it's either buy your IP auto'd super, or nothing at all. This of course is just my opinion. I have plenty of cards I get signed but none of them are limited in any way. I love to use rookies to get signed but usually do so with either a topps base or a topps chrome. IMO, those look great signed and with the glossy fronts of the cards, it says something about your luck and prepping skills because a lot of people mess those up from bad prepping/luck.

Also, baby powder isn't necessary. A polo shirt works just fine.

Brewer Andy · Aug 15, 2013

Not a fan of signing 1/1s. They should be left as issued IMO

smapdi · Aug 15, 2013

I should start collecting supers of an A's player. The green and yellow/gold really pop on Superfractors.

I'd go ahead and do it. My choice would be the Bowman Chrome, as you get a better look at his face and it just seems more suitable for a signature.

PoseyBuster · Aug 15, 2013

Lancemountain said:
prep it with baby powder and get the right staedler as mentioned. will be awesome signed

I've never used baby powder, I simply use my top to rub the signing area for a few second s as long as its cotton.

The most important tip: Staedtler....with a broken in pen tip

Sig40cal · Aug 15, 2013

I would get the Bowman signed and leave the other as is but they are your great looking cards. Good luck with whatever you end up doing.

jrinne · Aug 15, 2013

Get them signed. They have value either way.

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Hendersonfan · Aug 15, 2013

I personally wouldn't get them signed. Possibly a /100 if I had another, but nothing rare. I feel it would ruin the rare cards.

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predatorkj · Aug 15, 2013

jrinne said:
Get them signed. They have value either way.

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Value isn't really, IMO, the main issue. It's the rarity of the cards. Like if you had a very nice painting by a famous artist, and you didn't like something and had it changed somehow, you've now altered a super rare painting. Yours to change? Yes. But in a weird way, it forces your preference on other collectors when/if the piece becomes available. Imagine if every piece of art or every 1/1 were like this.

Another thought, what if the item doesn't get authenticated or can't pass authentication(if it's a sloppy sig that they won't authenticate)? The owner may not care because he plans to keep it. Say 30 years from now he passes and a prospective buyer is faced with getting it authenticated or wiping the auto. If it doesn't pass, and the auto is on the card for thirty years, it might not come off. Then what?

The point is, placing your preference above others is cool but it can be dicey with the rarity that has now been created by card manufacturers. What you do to a rare card really may have repercussions for other collectors.

Jon Mead · Aug 15, 2013

predatorkj said:
Value isn't really, IMO, the main issue. It's the rarity of the cards. Like if you had a very nice painting by a famous artist, and you didn't like something and had it changed somehow, you've now altered a super rare painting. Yours to change? Yes. But in a weird way, it forces your preference on other collectors when/if the piece becomes available. Imagine if every piece of art or every 1/1 were like this.

Another thought, what if the item doesn't get authenticated or can't pass authentication(if it's a sloppy sig that they won't authenticate)? The owner may not care because he plans to keep it. Say 30 years from now he passes and a prospective buyer is faced with getting it authenticated or wiping the auto. If it doesn't pass, and the auto is on the card for thirty years, it might not come off. Then what?

The point is, placing your preference above others is cool but it can be dicey with the rarity that has now been created by card manufacturers. What you do to a rare card really may have repercussions for other collectors.

This

PoseyBuster · Aug 15, 2013

The minute I meet Jason Donald I am cracking my superfractor with my teeth, Staedtler in hand.

There is no right or wrong answer, there's going to be many people on each side.

With weeks auto I would get the topps one signed. Keep the nicer looking bowman in tact and get the topps signed

jrinne · Aug 15, 2013

predatorkj said:
Value isn't really, IMO, the main issue. It's the rarity of the cards. Like if you had a very nice painting by a famous artist, and you didn't like something and had it changed somehow, you've now altered a super rare painting. Yours to change? Yes. But in a weird way, it forces your preference on other collectors when/if the piece becomes available. Imagine if every piece of art or every 1/1 were like this.

Another thought, what if the item doesn't get authenticated or can't pass authentication(if it's a sloppy sig that they won't authenticate)? The owner may not care because he plans to keep it. Say 30 years from now he passes and a prospective buyer is faced with getting it authenticated or wiping the auto. If it doesn't pass, and the auto is on the card for thirty years, it might not come off. Then what?

The point is, placing your preference above others is cool but it can be dicey with the rarity that has now been created by card manufacturers. What you do to a rare card really may have repercussions for other collectors.

I say live for the now, who cares about 30 years from now. I have a handful of 1/1's im looking to get signed someday.

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VandyDan · Aug 15, 2013

I totally would if it were a paid signing and I could guarantee that it would look nice.

I have some supers and 1/1s that are definitely PC.

Oh, and only if the player would inscribe it "Superfractorcadulisticexpialidocious" That's only 1 word, right? (this ties into another plan I have to, if a player at a signing limits inscriptions by words, to come up with the longest possible sentence, letter-wise, in that amount of words).

vwnut13 · Aug 15, 2013

Prep it with a little rubbing alcohol. I don't use baby powder because it alters the surface (at least in my mind it does

).

Rubbing Alcohol will remove the oils (from fingers) that cause the ink to bubble.

Try it on a base chrome card first.

TNP777 · Aug 16, 2013

I think they'd look pretty darn cool signed. If I had the chance, I'd do it.

predatorkj · Aug 16, 2013

vwnut13 said:
Prep it with a little rubbing alcohol. I don't use baby powder because it alters the surface (at least in my mind it does ).

Rubbing Alcohol will remove the oils (from fingers) that cause the ink to bubble.

Try it on a base chrome card first.

And it does nothing to the marker used after the fact? Just genuinely curious....

PoseyBuster · Aug 16, 2013

predatorkj said:
And it does nothing to the marker used after the fact? Just genuinely curious....

Ive never heard the alcohol....

My lcs owner simply uses a cut up polo shirt he got at Walmart for 5 bucks. using the same shirt since 2005. Probably a different swatch though.

I just use whatever top or dress im wearing as long as its not a scratchy polyester. Ive never had a problem, some people swear they've never prepped a chrome card when using a Staedtler but id be safe than sorry

predatorkj · Aug 16, 2013

jrinne said:
I say live for the now, who cares about 30 years from now. I have a handful of 1/1's im looking to get signed someday.

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Fair enough but it isn't necessarily "yours". It's being a little selfish IMO. You'll eventually pass on. So others have to live with your decisions. I could maybe, over the course of my lifetime, be able to afford a very rare painting. How about I take it to the shooting range and blow holes in it? It's mine right?

Don't get me wrong...I love auto'd cards, provided they are legit. And I do that on my own too with plenty of cards I own. Having it authenticated is icing on the cake. But personally, I'd never be able to take something that has no equal, and altering it in any way. Your train of thought, even though it is merely about a card that hasn't much bearing on the general well being of anything, is a pretty scary one. People have those types of attitudes about a lot of things and eventually it comes back to bite us collectively. A lot of quotes ring true here but I'll use Ian Malcom (Goldblum) from Jurassic Park..."Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, that they didn't stop to think if they should.". IMO, as a collector and a lover of the hobby, be responsible.

predatorkj · Aug 16, 2013

PoseyBuster said:
Ive never heard the alcohol....

My lcs owner simply uses a cut up polo shirt he got at Walmart for 5 bucks. using the same shirt since 2005. Probably a different swatch though.

I just use whatever top or dress im wearing as long as its not a scratchy polyester. Ive never had a problem, some people swear they've never prepped a chrome card when using a Staedtler but id be safe than sorry

I don't like the shade of a staedtler but I know it applies a lot better than sharpie. People swear by it. I have some chrome cards I didn't prep and they came out fine. Hell, I have some I prepped well and they still came out crappy. It can depend on a lot of things. The marker, the temperature(standing in a long line out in the heat), etc. I usually use a polo shirt or a plain cotton one. Normally I take one out of the closet(Lacoste) and wipe it down. It's abrasive enough to do the trick IMO and I have not had a bad auto in several years. This baby powder stuff I shy away from because IMO, it's simply not necessary.

Lars · Aug 16, 2013

predatorkj said:
I don't like the shade of a staedtler but I know it applies a lot better than sharpie. People swear by it. I have some chrome cards I didn't prep and they came out fine. Hell, I have some I prepped well and they still came out crappy. It can depend on a lot of things. The marker, the temperature(standing in a long line out in the heat), etc. I usually use a polo shirt or a plain cotton one. Normally I take one out of the closet(Lacoste) and wipe it down. It's abrasive enough to do the trick IMO and I have not had a bad auto in several years. This baby powder stuff I shy away from because IMO, it's simply not necessary.

You guys put too much time into this but I'm the same way.

Lancemountain · Aug 16, 2013

predatorkj said:
Fair enough but it isn't necessarily "yours". It's being a little selfish IMO. You'll eventually pass on. So others have to live with your decisions.

lol

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