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gt2590

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Morning all!

Up way too early for a day when I coulda got two more Hours in. Frick!

So what's gonna be more rampant: Tebow Talk, Packers Undefeated talk or "just" 34 days 'til LSU-'Bama talk? :?

I think Gus, the Chargers fan, summed up how we all feel about tonite's snoozer of a MNF game, SD at Jax when he mentioned his upcoming week:

Seiya said:
Weekend gone, but lots to look forward to next week!
New bedroom set on Wednesday, SOA season finale Tuesday, and Payday on Friday!

Have a good one All!
 

MojoDan

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Morning fellas.

:lol:


Anyone think that as long as the game is close, that if Bama were to win that we'd have co-champs?
 

cwells46

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Okay serious question......With the similarities between Cam Newton and Tim Tebows styles of play, why is it that everyone hates what Tebow is doing and love what Cam is doing? I know Cam can throw the ball better but other than that whats with the hate? I'll hang up and listen to your answer.
 

mstng99tim

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MojoDan said:
Anyone think that as long as the game is close, that if Bama were to win that we'd have co-champs?
Is that scenario even possible anymore now that there is an actual NC game? I know before the BCS came to fruition that it was possible because it all came down to voting, but I'm not sure it's possible now.
 

mstng99tim

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cwells46 said:
Okay serious question......With the similarities between Cam Newton and Tim Tebows styles of play, why is it that everyone hates what Tebow is doing and love what Cam is doing? I know Cam can throw the ball better but other than that whats with the hate? I'll hang up and listen to your answer.
I think most people hate things that shoved down there throat, even if they don't have a REAL reason to hate whatever it is that is being forced upon them. I don't love baseball but I follow it and watch an occasional national televised game, but I hate the Yankees and Red Sox, because they are the only teams that ever seem to play on TV. That's why I think a lot of people hate Tebow. So most people already go into it with that hatred mindset and it carries over to hating his style of play.

Next caller....Frank from Hoboken, what's on your mind?
 

wheeler281

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gt2590 said:
Morning all!

Up way too early for a day when I coulda got two more Hours in. Frick!

So what's gonna be more rampant: Tebow Talk, Packers Undefeated talk or "just" 34 days 'til LSU-'Bama talk? :?
!


so far it has been all about Jason Garret and the Giants
 

cwells46

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mstng99tim said:
cwells46 said:
Okay serious question......With the similarities between Cam Newton and Tim Tebows styles of play, why is it that everyone hates what Tebow is doing and love what Cam is doing? I know Cam can throw the ball better but other than that whats with the hate? I'll hang up and listen to your answer.
I think most people hate things that shoved down there throat, even if they don't have a REAL reason to hate whatever it is that is being forced upon them. I don't love baseball but I follow it and watch an occasional national televised game, but I hate the Yankees and Red Sox, because they are the only teams that ever seem to play on TV. That's why I think a lot of people hate Tebow. So most people already go into it with that hatred mindset and it carries over to hating his style of play.

Next caller....Frank from Hoboken, what's on your mind?


I understand the logic, but Newton is just as visible here in the south and everyone still loves him....Tebow wins and Newton keeps it close.
 

cwells46

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By HOPE YEN
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Unprecedented cuts by the cash-strapped U.S. Postal Service will slow first-class delivery next spring and, for the first time in 40 years, eliminate the chance for stamped letters to arrive the next day.

The estimated $3 billion in reductions, to be announced in broader detail later Monday, are part of a wide-ranging effort by the Postal Service to quickly trim costs and avert bankruptcy. They could slow everything from check payments to Netflix's DVDs-by-mail, add costs to mail-order prescription drugs, and threaten the existence of newspapers and time-sensitive magazines delivered by postal carrier to far-flung suburban and rural communities.

That birthday card mailed first-class to Mom also could arrive a day or two late, if people don't plan ahead.

"It's a potentially major change, but I don't think consumers are focused on it and it won't register until the service goes away," said Jim Corridore, analyst with S&P Capital IQ, who tracks the shipping industry. "Over time, to the extent the customer service experience gets worse, it will only increase the shift away from mail to alternatives. There's almost nothing you can't do online that you can do by mail."

The cuts would close roughly 250 of the nearly 500 mail processing centers across the country as early as next March. Because the consolidations would typically lengthen the distance mail travels from post office to processing center, the agency would also lower delivery standards for first-class mail that have been in place since 1971. Currently, first-class mail is supposed to be delivered to homes and businesses within the continental U.S. in one to three days; that will be lengthened to two to three days, meaning mailers could no longer expect next-day delivery in surrounding communities. Periodicals could take between two and nine days.

The Postal Service already has announced a 1-cent increase in first-class mail to 45 cents beginning Jan. 22.

About 42 percent of first-class mail is now delivered the following day; another 27 percent arrives in two days, about 31 percent in three days and less than 1 percent in four to five days. Following the change next spring, about 51 percent of all first-class mail is expected to arrive in two days, with most of the remainder delivered in three days.

The consolidation of mail processing centers is in addition to the planned closing of about 3,700 local post offices. In all, roughly 100,000 postal employees could be cut as a result of the various closures, resulting in savings of up to $6.5 billion a year.

Expressing urgency to reduce costs, Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe said in an interview that the agency has to act while waiting for Congress to grant it authority to reduce delivery to five days a week, raise stamp prices and reduce health care and other labor costs. The Postal Service, an independent agency of government, does not receive tax money, but is subject to congressional control of large aspects of its operations. The changes in first-class mail delivery can be implemented without permission from Congress.

After five years in the red, the post office faces imminent default this month on a $5.5 billion annual payment to the U.S. Treasury for retiree health benefits; it is projected to have a record loss of $14.1 billion next year amid steady declines in first-class mail volume. Donahoe has said the agency must make cuts of $20 billion by 2015 to be profitable.

"We have a business model that is failing. You can't continue to run red ink and not make changes," Donahoe said. "We know our business, and we listen to our customers. Customers are looking for affordable and consistent mail service, and they do not want us to take tax money."

Separate bills have passed House and Senate committees that would give the post office more authority and liquidity to stave off immediate bankruptcy. But prospects are somewhat dim for final congressional action on those bills anytime soon, especially if the measures are seen in an election year as promoting layoffs and cuts to neighborhood post offices.

The Postal Service initially announced in September it was studying the possibility of closing the processing centers and published a notice in the Federal Register seeking comments. Within 30 days, the plan elicited nearly 4,400 public comments, mostly in opposition.
 
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