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I expressly made my point about the violence. I dont understand the need to elbow someone as retaliation. There is a huge difference between violence and words to me. In all honesty all of the trash talk isnt playing the game "the right way". Trying to demean your opponet is wrong in every sense of the thought. I dont like Varejao, however I think its even worse that people pin the blame solely on him and never on the other person. As I stated several times, I think Varejao was wrong when he hip-threw Ray Allen, however, I believe Ray Allen was even more in the wrong for elbowing him. I think using words is much different than using violence.

In your first post you said that he went over and started jawing at him to draw goat him into drawing the tech. This is what I was complaining about. I never said it was the right thing to do to react and get physical, but it doesn't even reach that level if Varejao doesn't walk over and start talking. If he felt the need to defend his teammate after the hard foul on Lebron then he should have done that. Instead he went after a guy trying to get him to react, and when he did he threw his arms in the air to draw attention and backed away. It's very clear to me that he wasn't defending Lebron, and was trying to draw a tech. This is not playing the game the right way.

In both cases, the pushing/elbowing doesn't happen if Varejao doesn't play dirty. So I agree that Ray and Johnson were also wrong in reacting the way they did, but the reason I'm complaining about Varejao is intentionally putting himself in the situation for this.
 

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Kutzy said:
I expressly made my point about the violence. I dont understand the need to elbow someone as retaliation. There is a huge difference between violence and words to me. In all honesty all of the trash talk isnt playing the game "the right way". Trying to demean your opponet is wrong in every sense of the thought. I dont like Varejao, however I think its even worse that people pin the blame solely on him and never on the other person. As I stated several times, I think Varejao was wrong when he hip-threw Ray Allen, however, I believe Ray Allen was even more in the wrong for elbowing him. I think using words is much different than using violence.

In your first post you said that he went over and started jawing at him to draw goat him into drawing the tech. This is what I was complaining about. I never said it was the right thing to do to react and get physical, but it doesn't even reach that level if Varejao doesn't walk over and start talking. If he felt the need to defend his teammate after the hard foul on Lebron then he should have done that. Instead he went after a guy trying to get him to react, and when he did he threw his arms in the air to draw attention and backed away. It's very clear to me that he wasn't defending Lebron, and was trying to draw a tech. This is not playing the game the right way.

In both cases, the pushing/elbowing doesn't happen if Varejao doesn't play dirty. So I agree that Ray and Johnson were also wrong in reacting the way they did, but the reason I'm complaining about Varejao is intentionally putting himself in the situation for this.

Eh, I will agree on Ray Allen, not so much on Amir though.

Back to LA/Jazz though.

Deron with 25/15
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
Kutzy said:
I expressly made my point about the violence. I dont understand the need to elbow someone as retaliation. There is a huge difference between violence and words to me. In all honesty all of the trash talk isnt playing the game "the right way". Trying to demean your opponet is wrong in every sense of the thought. I dont like Varejao, however I think its even worse that people pin the blame solely on him and never on the other person. As I stated several times, I think Varejao was wrong when he hip-threw Ray Allen, however, I believe Ray Allen was even more in the wrong for elbowing him. I think using words is much different than using violence.

In your first post you said that he went over and started jawing at him to draw goat him into drawing the tech. This is what I was complaining about. I never said it was the right thing to do to react and get physical, but it doesn't even reach that level if Varejao doesn't walk over and start talking. If he felt the need to defend his teammate after the hard foul on Lebron then he should have done that. Instead he went after a guy trying to get him to react, and when he did he threw his arms in the air to draw attention and backed away. It's very clear to me that he wasn't defending Lebron, and was trying to draw a tech. This is not playing the game the right way.

In both cases, the pushing/elbowing doesn't happen if Varejao doesn't play dirty. So I agree that Ray and Johnson were also wrong in reacting the way they did, but the reason I'm complaining about Varejao is intentionally putting himself in the situation for this.

Eh, I will agree on Ray Allen, not so much on Amir though.

Back to LA/Jazz though.

Deron with 25/15

Which part do you disagree with on Amir? If Varejao doesn't start jawing at him then Amir doesn't push him, right? That's why I complained about Varejao and not Johnson.

I hope Deron puts up a line like that because he's going to have to if they want to have a chance to win.
 

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Amir put a hard foul on Lebron, SOMEONE was going to go over a jaw at him for it. It happened to be Varejao and in turn Amir pushed him for it. Its very possible he was going to push whomever came over there and jawed at him, but someone was going over there no matter what.
 

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Thats gotta hurt
 

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Major comeback going on and noone is here?
 

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I'm trying to keep up with the Rockets/Trailblazers game on NBA.com.
Looks like Cleveland's got this game: 90-77 with 2:30 left in the game.
 

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im just ready for lakers/jazz...big deron fan but im hoping for this..

[youtube:16rhropl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw[/youtube:16rhropl]
 

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I'm trying to keep up with the Rockets/Trailblazers game on NBA.com.
Looks like Cleveland's got this game: 90-77 with 2:30 left in the game.

Yea they got it now. I think it was like 6 or 7 at one point.
 

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im just ready for lakers/jazz...big deron fan but im hoping for this..

[youtube:32ckq98p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw[/youtube:32ckq98p]

Kwame Brown fouled Deron on that play.
 

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Wehttam6 said:
I'm trying to keep up with the Rockets/Trailblazers game on NBA.com.
Looks like Cleveland's got this game: 90-77 with 2:30 left in the game.

Yea they got it now. I think it was like 6 or 7 at one point.
I saw the Pistons were only down by 8 earlier. Then I changed the channel for a while and just turned it back.
Less than a minute left now.
 

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KOBEARODLT said:
im just ready for lakers/jazz...big deron fan but im hoping for this..

[youtube:1tihmhx4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw[/youtube:1tihmhx4]

Kwame Brown fouled Deron on that play.

yeah thats the reason he got blocked :lol:
 

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Kutzy said:
KOBEARODLT said:
im just ready for lakers/jazz...big deron fan but im hoping for this..

[youtube:2nhtpibt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9bk3hY6Qw[/youtube:2nhtpibt]

Kwame Brown fouled Deron on that play.

yeah thats the reason he got blocked :lol:

Hey now, im trying here.
 

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Just about every other commercial I've seen during and after this game has had something to do with the new Wolverine movie coming out.
The Jazz/Lakers game is on now. 8-)
 

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Dang, the Lakers are on fire right now. 11-13 from the field as a team so far.
(sorry, I just like making excuses to use the font color for my posts)
 

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No Okur? When is he supposed to be back? I take back my statement that I think the game will be close now.
 

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The Blazers and Rockets were tied at 28 to end the first quarter. I wasn't sure about Okur either. I see he's not listed as being on the bench on NBA.com so he's not going to play today.
(How many times have I typed "NBA.com" this week? It's starting to annoy me. I can't imagine how you guys feel.)
lol
 

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kobes pissin me off right now, he needs to stop looking for his teamates so much.....im not being mad because his scoring is down, its just some of the times he has the open shot and is passing it up.
 

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Crawford has no idea while refereeing.. Let's go ROCKETS!
 

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IMO The Lakers vs Jazz series is over. For me it was over when in the first game AK-47 dint Posterize Kobe Bryant on the break away play he had. That would have been a big time adrenaline rush for the whole jazz team. You got to be physical in the playoffs and when he backed away I knew that team was not all on the same page.

As for Portland vs Rockets close game with Roy having 30pt going into the fourth.
 

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