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Also keep in mind, this variation was not on it's own press sheet and was made on purpose.

I have no reason to believe that this is any more rare than the Yankees "Pie" variations. Those are rare and popular...and I would venture to guess more popular than this card will ever be.
 

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If there were, say, five copies of this card, should one of these SSPs be more expensive or desirable than the regular platinum 1/1?
 

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I realize Topps creates these gimmick cards to draw interest to products that might not get that much attention otherwise, but I really wish they'd create some for their Bowman/Bowman Chrome products as well.

Set builders buy just as much of these products as their base brand. Someone needs to make them aware of this.
 

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uniquebaseballcards said:
If there were, say, five copies of this card, should one of these SSPs be more expensive or desirable than the regular platinum 1/1?

Yes, due to the fact that more base set collectors would want it

Chiefer- I really hope you make good profit off the card, and you are taking all the right steps by calling the companies and promoting it.

While I believe topps made it on purpose to generate hype (as they have done for the past few years with those sets), if you can capitalize on it, I hope you get alot for it!
 

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Jaypers said:
I realize Topps creates these gimmick cards to draw interest to products that might not get that much attention otherwise, but I really wish they'd create some for their Bowman/Bowman Chrome products as well.

Set builders buy these products just as much as their base brand. Someone needs to make them aware of this.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
Also keep in mind, this variation was not on it's own press sheet and was made on purpose.

I have no reason to believe that this is any more rare than the Yankees "Pie" variations. Those are rare and popular...and I would venture to guess more popular than this card will ever be.

No doubt that you are probably right. I am just hoping that it is not the case and it does fetch a decent amount.
 

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HPC said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
If there were, say, five copies of this card, should one of these SSPs be more expensive or desirable than the regular platinum 1/1?

Yes, due to the fact that more base set collectors would want it

Chiefer- I really hope you make good profit off the card, and you are taking all the right steps by calling the companies and promoting it.

While I believe topps made it on purpose to generate hype (as they have done for the past few years with those sets), if you can capitalize on it, I hope you get alot for it!

Thanks HPC, I am hoping that I am taking the right steps in my pursuit. Time will tell I guess.
 

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The fact that it took nearly a month before someone discovered this shows that it is very limited. I personally feel this is as rare as the Pie Face cards which were approximately 1 per case. If it were as common as the Legend variations this would have probably turned up much sooner as those were inserted few per case.

You can't compare this to the 2007 Mantle/Jeter/Bush, that was not an SP. Every single Jeter from Series I was altered. The correct version was issued only in the factory sets.

Chiefer77, congrats again on the discovery! Please keep us posted about any of the email responses you get, either from Topps or Olbermann.
 

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nevermore said:
The fact that it took nearly a month before someone discovered this shows that it is very limited. I personally feel this is as rare as the Pie Face cards which were approximately 1 per case. If it were as common as the Legend variations this would have probably turned up much sooner as those were inserted few per case.

You can't compare this to the 2007 Mantle/Jeter/Bush, that was not an SP. Every single Jeter from Series I was altered. The correct version was issued only in the factory sets.

Chiefer77, congrats again on the discovery! Please keep us posted about any of the email responses you get, either from Topps or Olbermann.

I just called Topps again and they did confirm that it is super rare and that they couldn't release anymore information on it and he urged me to hang on to it. The guy I spoke with actually didn't know anything about it until I refreshed his memory of the hint they put out. That to me shows that it is extremely rare and mostly likely a super short print.

Thanks everyone for your opinions. I will keep you all updates as to what I find out. Ya know, I've been out of card collecting for a number of years, mostly did it as a kid when cards like this weren't made. I'm 33 years old now with a son of my own that is getting excited about this sort of stuff. This is my first year back into it and It's pretty exciting to pull a card like this. It's never happened to me before and yes I still get giddy when I pull a relic card, lol. This is a whole new world to me and it's pretty cool.
 

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chiefer77 said:
nevermore said:
The fact that it took nearly a month before someone discovered this shows that it is very limited. I personally feel this is as rare as the Pie Face cards which were approximately 1 per case. If it were as common as the Legend variations this would have probably turned up much sooner as those were inserted few per case.

You can't compare this to the 2007 Mantle/Jeter/Bush, that was not an SP. Every single Jeter from Series I was altered. The correct version was issued only in the factory sets.

Chiefer77, congrats again on the discovery! Please keep us posted about any of the email responses you get, either from Topps or Olbermann.

I just called Topps again and they did confirm that it is super rare and that they couldn't release anymore information on it and he urged me to hang on to it. The guy I spoke with actually didn't know anything about it until I refreshed his memory of the hint they put out. That to me shows that it is extremely rare and mostly likely a super short print.

Thanks everyone for your opinions. I will keep you all updates as to what I find out. Ya know, I've been out of card collecting for a number of years, mostly did it as a kid when cards like this weren't made. I'm 33 years old now with a son of my own that is getting excited about this sort of stuff. This is my first year back into it and It's pretty exciting to pull a card like this. It's never happened to me before and yes I still get giddy when I pull a relic card, lol. This is a whole new world to me and it's pretty cool.
It's a great card, without question...but the excitement bubble will most certainly burst in a few months with the value.

Also, in regards to Topps not knowing anything about it...that's common. Most of their customer service staff actually think they sell spinning tops.
 

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nevermore said:
The fact that it took nearly a month before someone discovered this shows that it is very limited. I personally feel this is as rare as the Pie Face cards which were approximately 1 per case. If it were as common as the Legend variations this would have probably turned up much sooner as those were inserted few per case.

You can't compare this to the 2007 Mantle/Jeter/Bush, that was not an SP. Every single Jeter from Series I was altered. The correct version was issued only in the factory sets.

Chiefer77, congrats again on the discovery! Please keep us posted about any of the email responses you get, either from Topps or Olbermann.

Your post is dead on, anyone comparing this to the Jeter/Bush doesn't get it. That was not an sp, this Bradley variant however seems to be. Congrats to all who have pulled one, it should get you 3 figures.
 

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Either way, get it on ebay before everyone goes back through their cards and these start popping up!
 

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bigalbert said:
nevermore said:
The fact that it took nearly a month before someone discovered this shows that it is very limited. I personally feel this is as rare as the Pie Face cards which were approximately 1 per case. If it were as common as the Legend variations this would have probably turned up much sooner as those were inserted few per case.

You can't compare this to the 2007 Mantle/Jeter/Bush, that was not an SP. Every single Jeter from Series I was altered. The correct version was issued only in the factory sets.

Chiefer77, congrats again on the discovery! Please keep us posted about any of the email responses you get, either from Topps or Olbermann.

Your post is dead on, anyone comparing this to the Jeter/Bush doesn't get it. That was not an sp, this Bradley variant however seems to be. Congrats to all who have pulled one, it should get you 3 figures.

Comparing it is valid, because the same thing that happened to Gordon and Jeter, will happen to this card.

I dont understand why some people dont grasp this concept, and the previous examples.

Alex Gordon: Pimped on Olbermanns show, was getting more than $5k. Can be bought now for under $1k and possibly around $500.

Jeter: Pimped on Olbermanns show, was getting around $3k. Can be bought now for around $25.

...the same thing will probably happen. Olbermann talks about it on his show because of Abe Lincoln (not because he's associated with Topps or anything ::facepalm:: ), then you see a sales in Topps boxes and more become listed, the price stays high for a month, then drops down to a reasonable value.

Sell as soon as the press release comes out because when the hype is gone, all you have is a Milton Bradley card with Abe Lincoln on it.
 

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Jaypers said:
I realize Topps creates these gimmick cards to draw interest to products that might not get that much attention otherwise, but I really wish they'd create some for their Bowman/Bowman Chrome products as well.

Set builders buy just as much of these products as their base brand. Someone needs to make them aware of this.

While neither of us will be able to prove this, I highly doubt there are more BC set collectors than there are Topps base set collectors.
 

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Yes, this happens to just about *every* card, short- and middle-term. We really don't have enough information to know about long-term yet.

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Comparing it is valid, because the same thing that happened to Gordon and Jeter, will happen to this card.

I dont understand why some people dont grasp this concept, and the previous examples.

Alex Gordon: Pimped on Olbermanns show, was getting more than $5k. Can be bought now for under $1k and possibly around $500.

Jeter: Pimped on Olbermanns show, was getting around $3k. Can be bought now for around $25.

...the same thing will probably happen. Olbermann talks about it on his show because of Abe Lincoln (not because he's associated with Topps or anything ::facepalm:: ), then you see a sales in Topps boxes and more become listed, the price stays high for a month, then drops down to a reasonable value.

Sell as soon as the press release comes out because when the hype is gone, all you have is a Milton Bradley card with Abe Lincoln on it.
 

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That's what I was thinking as well. Almost every card sells for more when it is the hot new product than it will a couple years later. And as for the Alex Gordon card... it can be had for less than $1,000 so it isn't valuable anymore? :shock:

Also, I don't believe the regular base card of Jeter/Mantle/Bush ever hit $3K... right?

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Yes, this happens to just about *every* card, short- and middle-term. We really don't have enough information to know about long-term yet.

HPC said:
Comparing it is valid, because the same thing that happened to Gordon and Jeter, will happen to this card.

I dont understand why some people dont grasp this concept, and the previous examples.

Alex Gordon: Pimped on Olbermanns show, was getting more than $5k. Can be bought now for under $1k and possibly around $500.

Jeter: Pimped on Olbermanns show, was getting around $3k. Can be bought now for around $25.

...the same thing will probably happen. Olbermann talks about it on his show because of Abe Lincoln (not because he's associated with Topps or anything ::facepalm:: ), then you see a sales in Topps boxes and more become listed, the price stays high for a month, then drops down to a reasonable value.

Sell as soon as the press release comes out because when the hype is gone, all you have is a Milton Bradley card with Abe Lincoln on it.
 

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Comparing it to the Olbermann pimping may be true, although he hasn't done that yet. I did email his show so perhaps if it does get to him, he will.

I have stated above that the difference in the Jeter and Bradley card is that the Bradley card is out there on purpose and is super short printed, the jeter card wasn't corrected until the factory set came out. there are a ton of the jeter cards out there and as far as we know, there are only a couple of the Bradley cards.
 

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Jeff N. said:
Jaypers said:
I realize Topps creates these gimmick cards to draw interest to products that might not get that much attention otherwise, but I really wish they'd create some for their Bowman/Bowman Chrome products as well.

Set builders buy just as much of these products as their base brand. Someone needs to make them aware of this.

While neither of us will be able to prove this, I highly doubt there are more BC set collectors than there are Topps base set collectors.

I didn't say "more".
 

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Comparing it to the Olbermann pimping may be true, although he hasn't done that yet. I did email his show so perhaps if it does get to him, he will.

I have stated above that the difference in the Jeter and Bradley card is that the Bradley card is out there on purpose and is super short printed, the jeter card wasn't corrected until the factory set came out. there are a ton of the jeter cards out there and as far as we know, there are only a couple of the Bradley cards.

Technically, both cards are out there on purpose, but thats besides the point

Topps has a yearly tradition now of creating hype cards to get people to buy their cheaper products.

Im not surprised, and im not saying it isnt a rare card, but I will side with history on this one.

I hope people are smart and do the same, and sell while you can make coin.
 

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HPC said:
bigalbert said:
nevermore said:
The fact that it took nearly a month before someone discovered this shows that it is very limited. I personally feel this is as rare as the Pie Face cards which were approximately 1 per case. If it were as common as the Legend variations this would have probably turned up much sooner as those were inserted few per case.

You can't compare this to the 2007 Mantle/Jeter/Bush, that was not an SP. Every single Jeter from Series I was altered. The correct version was issued only in the factory sets.

Chiefer77, congrats again on the discovery! Please keep us posted about any of the email responses you get, either from Topps or Olbermann.

Your post is dead on, anyone comparing this to the Jeter/Bush doesn't get it. That was not an sp, this Bradley variant however seems to be. Congrats to all who have pulled one, it should get you 3 figures.

Comparing it is valid, because the same thing that happened to Gordon and Jeter, will happen to this card.

I dont understand why some people dont grasp this concept, and the previous examples.

Alex Gordon: Pimped on Olbermanns show, was getting more than $5k. Can be bought now for under $1k and possibly around $500.

Jeter: Pimped on Olbermanns show, was getting around $3k. Can be bought now for around $25.

...the same thing will probably happen. Olbermann talks about it on his show because of Abe Lincoln (not because he's associated with Topps or anything ::facepalm:: ), then you see a sales in Topps boxes and more become listed, the price stays high for a month, then drops down to a reasonable value.

Sell as soon as the press release comes out because when the hype is gone, all you have is a Milton Bradley card with Abe Lincoln on it.

Raw Gordons never got above 3k.

The only jeters that were getting that kind of money were the copper /56
 

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