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This could be like the Melvin Mora wrong photo back...it's rare, but of a nobody so the hype/interest will probably be short-lived.

Most people still aren't aware of the Mora variation, and most don't care.

This has an extra twist being Lincoln and the Cubs, but the Bradley factor surely isn't sweetening the deal.
 

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I know what you're saying. But of course for certain kinds of collectors, the player's popularity doesn't matter.

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This could be like the Melvin Mora wrong photo back...it's rare, but of a nobody so the hype/interest will probably be short-lived.

Most people still aren't aware of the Mora variation, and most don't care.

This has an extra twist being Lincoln and the Cubs, but the Bradley factor surely isn't sweetening the deal.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
This could be like the Melvin Mora wrong photo back...it's rare, but of a nobody so the hype/interest will probably be short-lived.

Most people still aren't aware of the Mora variation, and most don't care.

This has an extra twist being Lincoln and the Cubs, but the Bradley factor surely isn't sweetening the deal.

I agree, I think the Bradley factor will hinder the card a bit, but the rarity of it will keep a decent value on it. At least I hope. I'm not sure what I am going to do with my. I don't really have any attachment to it and I'm not a master set builder. The collector in me usually over rides the investor in me, so there is a good chance that I will hang onto it simply because it is a pretty rare card.

Speaking of the Mora error. I'm no so sure how short printed it really is. I just pulled another one yesterday so out of the 3 Mora cards I have, two are the error.

Oh and if anybody wantes my other Mora card, let me know. I am going to ebay it later today, as well as an Eddie Mathews patch card.
 

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No way this card has the same response in the hobby as the Jeter/Mantle/Bush. Sure Abe is popular, but Milton Bradley? Man did they drop the ball. They may sell fairly high once word gets out, but I just don't see a consistant run as the Jeter had. Unless the Milton ends up on CNN

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ajbraves25 said:
No way this card has the same response in the hobby as the Jeter/Mantle/Bush. Sure Abe is popular, but Milton Bradley? Man did they drop the ball. They may sell fairly high once word gets out, but I just don't see a consistant run as the Jeter had. Unless the Milton ends up on CNN

~AJ

The difference between the Jeter card and the Abe card is obviously the print run of them. There were a lot of those Jeter cards made. The Beckett value of it is only 12 bucks now. I think you are right about the Abe card though. I think the novelty will wear off eventually, but the rarity will keep a decent value on it.
 

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0 listed on ebay so far and 20 or so of the Mora have been listed. There have been plenty of bradley singles listed without the error.
 

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0 listed on ebay so far and 20 or so of the Mora have been listed. There have been plenty of bradley singles listed without the error.

I have checked ebay everyday for this card since I got it and have never seen one on there.
 

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Once Olberman gets a hold of the story and talks about it on MSNBC, you will see some action on the card.
 

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Even if there is only less than 100 of the bradley in existence

It's still Milton Bradley

:?

Unless there are diehard topps error/sp collectors out there, I doubt there is going to be a rush on Bradley stuff any time soon

...or as mentioned above, Olbermann (who is a topps spokesman if anyone remembers the bowman heritage stuff he was associated with years ago) will pimp the card and generate some buzz

Problem with Olbermann doing it, is unlike Derek Jeter, no one cares about Bradley, and he doesnt play for the Yankees.
 

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HPC said:
Even if there is only less than 100 of the bradley in existence

It's still Milton Bradley

:?

Unless there are diehard topps error/sp collectors out there, I doubt there is going to be a rush on Bradley stuff any time soon

...or as mentioned above, Olbermann (who is a topps spokesman if anyone remembers the bowman heritage stuff he was associated with years ago) will pimp the card and generate some buzz

Problem with Olbermann doing it, is unlike Derek Jeter, no one cares about Bradley, and he doesnt play for the Yankees.

This is exactly why it will be big when the word really gets out there.

There ARE hard-core Topps collectors. People forget that there are people that put together these master sets (Errors, SPs, Variations included) on a year to year basis. That is why these things are so high to begin with (ie. Jeter, Giuliani, ***).

People may not care about Bradley, but they care about their Topps cards...and in this case, it will not matter at all who is on the card.
 

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Sly said:
HPC said:
Even if there is only less than 100 of the bradley in existence

It's still Milton Bradley

:?

Unless there are diehard topps error/sp collectors out there, I doubt there is going to be a rush on Bradley stuff any time soon

...or as mentioned above, Olbermann (who is a topps spokesman if anyone remembers the bowman heritage stuff he was associated with years ago) will pimp the card and generate some buzz

Problem with Olbermann doing it, is unlike Derek Jeter, no one cares about Bradley, and he doesnt play for the Yankees.

This is exactly why it will be big when the word really gets out there.

There ARE hard-core Topps collectors. People forget that there are people that put together these master sets (Errors, SPs, Variations included) on a year to year basis. That is why these things are so high to begin with (ie. Jeter, Giuliani, ***).

People may not care about Bradley, but they care about their Topps cards...and in this case, it will not matter at all who is on the card.

I agree, once it gets out that this card is really out there, the master set collectores will pay top dollar for it regardless of the fact that it is milton bradley.

I actually just sent Keith Olbermann an email about it, we'll see if I get a response.
 

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chiefer77 said:
Sly said:
HPC said:
Even if there is only less than 100 of the bradley in existence

It's still Milton Bradley

:?

Unless there are diehard topps error/sp collectors out there, I doubt there is going to be a rush on Bradley stuff any time soon

...or as mentioned above, Olbermann (who is a topps spokesman if anyone remembers the bowman heritage stuff he was associated with years ago) will pimp the card and generate some buzz

Problem with Olbermann doing it, is unlike Derek Jeter, no one cares about Bradley, and he doesnt play for the Yankees.

This is exactly why it will be big when the word really gets out there.

There ARE hard-core Topps collectors. People forget that there are people that put together these master sets (Errors, SPs, Variations included) on a year to year basis. That is why these things are so high to begin with (ie. Jeter, Giuliani, ***).

People may not care about Bradley, but they care about their Topps cards...and in this case, it will not matter at all who is on the card.

I agree, once it gets out that this card is really out there, the master set collectores will pay top dollar for it regardless of the fact that it is milton bradley.

I actually just sent Keith Olbermann an email about it, we'll see if I get a response.

Dont have to worry about that.

Because just like the Jeter, there will be more than enough available for anyone who wants it.

Opening Day, Topps Gold, etc will more than likely have this "error/sp" in them and will dimish the value, just like the Jeter.

I hope anyone who does have them, sells fast.
 

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HPC said:
chiefer77 said:
Sly said:
HPC said:
Even if there is only less than 100 of the bradley in existence

It's still Milton Bradley

:?

Unless there are diehard topps error/sp collectors out there, I doubt there is going to be a rush on Bradley stuff any time soon

...or as mentioned above, Olbermann (who is a topps spokesman if anyone remembers the bowman heritage stuff he was associated with years ago) will pimp the card and generate some buzz

Problem with Olbermann doing it, is unlike Derek Jeter, no one cares about Bradley, and he doesnt play for the Yankees.

This is exactly why it will be big when the word really gets out there.

There ARE hard-core Topps collectors. People forget that there are people that put together these master sets (Errors, SPs, Variations included) on a year to year basis. That is why these things are so high to begin with (ie. Jeter, Giuliani, ***).

People may not care about Bradley, but they care about their Topps cards...and in this case, it will not matter at all who is on the card.

I agree, once it gets out that this card is really out there, the master set collectores will pay top dollar for it regardless of the fact that it is milton bradley.

I actually just sent Keith Olbermann an email about it, we'll see if I get a response.

Dont have to worry about that.

Because just like the Jeter, there will be more than enough available for anyone who wants it.

Opening Day, Topps Gold, etc will more than likely have this "error/sp" in them and will dimish the value, just like the Jeter.

I hope anyone who does have them, sells fast.

I'll lay money that you are wrong about there being "enough available for anyone who wants it".
 

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justinmandawg said:
HPC said:
chiefer77 said:
Sly said:
HPC said:
Even if there is only less than 100 of the bradley in existence

It's still Milton Bradley

:?

Unless there are diehard topps error/sp collectors out there, I doubt there is going to be a rush on Bradley stuff any time soon

...or as mentioned above, Olbermann (who is a topps spokesman if anyone remembers the bowman heritage stuff he was associated with years ago) will pimp the card and generate some buzz

Problem with Olbermann doing it, is unlike Derek Jeter, no one cares about Bradley, and he doesnt play for the Yankees.

This is exactly why it will be big when the word really gets out there.

There ARE hard-core Topps collectors. People forget that there are people that put together these master sets (Errors, SPs, Variations included) on a year to year basis. That is why these things are so high to begin with (ie. Jeter, Giuliani, ***).

People may not care about Bradley, but they care about their Topps cards...and in this case, it will not matter at all who is on the card.

I agree, once it gets out that this card is really out there, the master set collectores will pay top dollar for it regardless of the fact that it is milton bradley.

I actually just sent Keith Olbermann an email about it, we'll see if I get a response.

Dont have to worry about that.

Because just like the Jeter, there will be more than enough available for anyone who wants it.

Opening Day, Topps Gold, etc will more than likely have this "error/sp" in them and will dimish the value, just like the Jeter.

I hope anyone who does have them, sells fast.

I'll lay money that you are wrong about there being "enough available for anyone who wants it".

People said the same thing about Jeter and look now.

Tell the people who spent $3000 on the initial ones that they are valued at around $25.
 

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There is a big difference in my opinion between the Jeter and this card. Topps actually put out that little hint before the street date and they are being super secretive about the card. Do some research on it, call Topps like I did. You'll get the same as me. There are two known in existance at the moment and that makes it far different than the Jeter card.

And Beckett has the Jeter at 12 for mint.
 

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Keep in mind, just because only two are known at the moment, it does not mean that it is any more or less rare than the Mora. A ton of this product has been opened and neither of these cards meant too much. The Lincoln most people falsely assumed was the Tris Speaker SP with the figure that looked "Lincolnesque" in the background.

Give these variations some time to get out in the public, or at least an article from Beckett and we'll see what happens on eBay.
 

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chiefer77 said:
There is a big difference in my opinion between the Jeter and this card. Topps actually put out that little hint before the street date and they are being super secretive about the card. Do some research on it, call Topps like I did. You'll get the same as me. There are two known in existance at the moment and that makes it far different than the Jeter card.

And Beckett has the Jeter at 12 for mint.

I get the arguement, and im not saying it isnt rare, because for all we know, 5 could be in exsistence and it will be worth $2500 to a topps collector and topps never prints it again in Opening Day or Gold.

The other side, is there could be 5000 of them, and nobody has caught on to what has happened because nothing has been said other than a few message board posts. Then topps releases it in OD and Gold and they become worth around what Jeter is.

More than likely, knowing Topps, its the later side, unfortunately.

Thats why Im saying sell while you can, as soon as a press release happens.

People who paid $3000 for the Jeter didnt think their card would become worth, at sale, around 20 bucks
 

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HPC said:
chiefer77 said:
There is a big difference in my opinion between the Jeter and this card. Topps actually put out that little hint before the street date and they are being super secretive about the card. Do some research on it, call Topps like I did. You'll get the same as me. There are two known in existance at the moment and that makes it far different than the Jeter card.

And Beckett has the Jeter at 12 for mint.

I get the arguement, and im not saying it isnt rare, because for all we know, 5 could be in exsistence and it will be worth $2500 to a topps collector and topps never prints it again in Opening Day or Gold.

The other side, is there could be 5000 of them, and nobody has caught on to what has happened because nothing has been said other than a few message board posts. Then topps releases it in OD and Gold and they become worth around what Jeter is.

More than likely, knowing Topps, its the later side, unfortunately.

Thats why Im saying sell while you can, as soon as a press release happens.

People who paid $3000 for the Jeter didnt think their card would become worth, at sale, around 20 bucks

Oh I hear ya, and I'm taking what you are saying to heart. I can hope that it's the upside and but only assume that it will be the downside as in the case of the Jeter card. Like you said, it's a waiting game now. We will just have to wait and see what happens. I just hope the Jeter fiasco doesn't hinder the selling point of this card. I am going to continue to try to raise awareness on it and see where it gets me. I want Topps to do a press release on it and I think that if we do get enough of the word out, they would sorta be forced to. I plan on calling some of the big name hobby shops across the country today to see if I can get any more info.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
Keep in mind, just because only two are known at the moment, it does not mean that it is any more or less rare than the Mora. A ton of this product has been opened and neither of these cards meant too much. The Lincoln most people falsely assumed was the Tris Speaker SP with the figure that looked "Lincolnesque" in the background.

Give these variations some time to get out in the public, or at least an article from Beckett and we'll see what happens on eBay.

I hear what you are saying. I am going to try to contact Beckett today and see what they say.
 

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