3 Hank Aaron Auto Balls w/ Steiner cert for $108.98 dlvd!!!!

[AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR]

Ouch
http://cgi.ebay.com/Hank-Aaron-Autograp ... 746wt_1139

Reserve not met?
I would take $25 and run.... :lol:

 

[Bob Loblaw]

These autograhs are sad. THey're clearly the autos of an older man... and just sad.

 

[Bill Menard]

For once I agree with Jeff. I was going to buy one of these, but the autograph is just horrible. Especially on that one in the ebay auction. ACKKK! I wouldn't want it in a collection even if it was $10. It's just nasty looking.

There are many other outlets out there with Aaron autos that are in much better condition and his signature is more "classic" for approximately 3xs the price and I think I'd much rather have that one in a personal collection.

 

[AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR]

Here is my Hank to compare.
NL Coleman ball.
PSA/DNA

 

[steve-a-reno]

Could the sigs be more legible, sure, but if mine end up like the ones chris and casey got I'll be thrilled. I for one like a nice big auto on the ball. All this talk about him being old, guess what.......he is. It is a part of life. Just like everyone bitching about musials decline in some of his autos. They are old men and a bit shaky. If you don't want one, don't buy one. If you prefer an older signature go buy one of them.

 

[Bill Menard]

Could the sigs be more legible, sure, but if mine end up like the ones chris and casey got I'll be thrilled. I for one like a nice big auto on the ball. All this talk about him being old, guess what.......he is. It is a part of life. Just like everyone bitching about musials decline in some of his autos. They are old men and a bit shaky. If you don't want one, don't buy one. If you prefer an older signature go buy one of them.

Don't know if you looked at the ball in the post that was made with an ebay link, but that is what I was referring to. It looks like Mr. Aaron (or someone) erased half the autograph and then redid it! It's a disaster. That's what I'd not want in my collection. Yeah - he'd old, but for $39 and a clean sig, and a minor stain on the other side of the ball, sure I'd take one. It just seems like a gamble though, even with others here getting good ones that they are posting... to me, it's kind of like a box break - you see all the good ones posted, makes you want to run out and try your luck, and you end up buying the box that was shorted the auto! I just see myself ending up with one like in that ebay auction and I wouldn't want that.

 

[predatorkj]

Could the sigs be more legible, sure, but if mine end up like the ones chris and casey got I'll be thrilled. I for one like a nice big auto on the ball. All this talk about him being old, guess what.......he is. It is a part of life. Just like everyone bitching about musials decline in some of his autos. They are old men and a bit shaky. If you don't want one, don't buy one. If you prefer an older signature go buy one of them.

As much as this baord preaches about quality, this thread must be an anamoly or something. Look, nobody is bitching. Of course Aaron is old. Our point is take the money, and buy a nice clean auto on a nice ball. Doing anything else usually means you are desperate. Now, if you purchased these because you are of the ilk who can't afford a better copy, kudos. Nothing wrong with that. But if you have the money to burn and you purchased one of these hoping to get a nice ball, it was a odd chance to take knowing it was blemished in some way.

 

[Topnotchsy]

Could the sigs be more legible, sure, but if mine end up like the ones chris and casey got I'll be thrilled. I for one like a nice big auto on the ball. All this talk about him being old, guess what.......he is. It is a part of life. Just like everyone bitching about musials decline in some of his autos. They are old men and a bit shaky. If you don't want one, don't buy one. If you prefer an older signature go buy one of them.

As much as this baord preaches about quality, this thread must be an anamoly or something. Look, nobody is bitching. Of course Aaron is old. Our point is take the money, and buy a nice clean auto on a nice ball. Doing anything else usually means you are desperate. Now, if you purchased these because you are of the ilk who can't afford a better copy, kudos. Nothing wrong with that. But if you have the money to burn and you purchased one of these hoping to get a nice ball, it was a odd chance to take knowing it was blemished in some way.

I think it all comes down to personal taste with these. Personally I would never consider buying a Steiner Aaron for $350, but for $40, with a decent shot it is the ball that is not in great shape, I went in for 3. Hopefully I'll get at least a couple nicer ones, they'll make a great incentive in school for my students, I can cut it up for a custom card, and worst case scenario I have a messy signature of one of the all-time greats for under the price of a box of Topps.

 

[steve-a-reno]

Could the sigs be more legible, sure, but if mine end up like the ones chris and casey got I'll be thrilled. I for one like a nice big auto on the ball. All this talk about him being old, guess what.......he is. It is a part of life. Just like everyone bitching about musials decline in some of his autos. They are old men and a bit shaky. If you don't want one, don't buy one. If you prefer an older signature go buy one of them.

As much as this baord preaches about quality, this thread must be an anamoly or something. Look, nobody is bitching. Of course Aaron is old. Our point is take the money, and buy a nice clean auto on a nice ball. Doing anything else usually means you are desperate. Now, if you purchased these because you are of the ilk who can't afford a better copy, kudos. Nothing wrong with that. But if you have the money to burn and you purchased one of these hoping to get a nice ball, it was a odd chance to take knowing it was blemished in some way.

I think it all comes down to personal taste with these. Personally I would never consider buying a Steiner Aaron for $350, but for $40, with a decent shot it is the ball that is not in great shape, I went in for 3. Hopefully I'll get at least a couple nicer ones, they'll make a great incentive in school for my students, I can cut it up for a custom card, and worst case scenario I have a messy signature of one of the all-time greats for under the price of a box of Topps.

Are you sure you and I aren't poor, bottom feeders who can't afford a nice arron as predatorkj. Give me a break.

 

[Topnotchsy]

[quote="steve-a-reno":lso7jlb1]Could the sigs be more legible, sure, but if mine end up like the ones chris and casey got I'll be thrilled. I for one like a nice big auto on the ball. All this talk about him being old, guess what.......he is. It is a part of life. Just like everyone bitching about musials decline in some of his autos. They are old men and a bit shaky. If you don't want one, don't buy one. If you prefer an older signature go buy one of them.

As much as this baord preaches about quality, this thread must be an anamoly or something. Look, nobody is bitching. Of course Aaron is old. Our point is take the money, and buy a nice clean auto on a nice ball. Doing anything else usually means you are desperate. Now, if you purchased these because you are of the ilk who can't afford a better copy, kudos. Nothing wrong with that. But if you have the money to burn and you purchased one of these hoping to get a nice ball, it was a odd chance to take knowing it was blemished in some way.

I think it all comes down to personal taste with these. Personally I would never consider buying a Steiner Aaron for $350, but for $40, with a decent shot it is the ball that is not in great shape, I went in for 3. Hopefully I'll get at least a couple nicer ones, they'll make a great incentive in school for my students, I can cut it up for a custom card, and worst case scenario I have a messy signature of one of the all-time greats for under the price of a box of Topps.

Are you sure you and I aren't poor, bottom feeders who can't afford a nice arron as predatorkj. Give me a break.[/quote:lso7jlb1]

I think anyone with expendable cash for cardboard should be thankful for their financial situation.

That said, I don't think predatorkj is bashing the idea of buying one if you are comfortable with a less than perfect ball. His opinion as I read it, is that it's a risky move if you want a nice ball and can afford it. It's his opinion, and I'll politely disagree because one could buy a whole bunch of these for the price of a single "nice" ball (especially with a Steiner cert.) and if based on the ones board members have received (and the going rate on eBay) there's little risk with these, especially since there's always the option for custom cards and the like, and many people have shown that they've received some pretty nice copies.

For, me, any sports item that I know will carry far more value to my students than the cost (like the Ripken autographed books from a month ago or so on Barnes and Nobles) is perfect for me to use as an incentive and $40 for one of the all-time greats works well for me.

 

[matchpenalty]

Your snow white clean Aaron ball today. In time will most likely develop spotting and yellowish tone over time. Most all baseballs do. Nature of beast with them. You think Steiner just had him sign a bunch of blemished baseballs. These I would guess were all pristine when signed them.

 

[orion9578]

Just a little update about my three balls. I paid 109 something with shipping. I sold two of the balls locally for 100 cash a piece each. I was very upfront about the damage and showed both people the COA's that state they're imperfect balls. So in the end I made 90 bucks and got to keep the best one for myself. Not bragging, by any means, just putting more information out there on how great of a deal I think these balls are at 36 dollars(what I paid, they are slightly more now) a piece delivered. I think there are a LOT more people out there who'd rather pay 100 bucks for a ball that's slightly imperfect then there are people who want to spend 300 plus for a "perfect" ball.

 

[predatorkj]

Just a little update about my three balls. I paid 109 something with shipping. I sold two of the balls locally for 100 cash a piece each. I was very upfront about the damage and showed both people the COA's that state they're imperfect balls. So in the end I made 90 bucks and got to keep the best one for myself. Not bragging, by any means, just putting more information out there on how great of a deal I think these balls are at 36 dollars(what I paid, they are slightly more now) a piece delivered. I think there are a LOT more people out there who'd rather pay 100 bucks for a ball that's slightly imperfect then there are people who want to spend 300 plus for a "perfect" ball.

Not to sound like a jerk but if you guys are buying autos of guys from steiner...lets just say you are wasting your money.

I'm not directing this post at you either Orion. Just in general. Steiner is one of the most overpriced companies and you only deal with them when you have to. For Aaron, you really don't have to.

 

[cgilmo]

Just a little update about my three balls. I paid 109 something with shipping. I sold two of the balls locally for 100 cash a piece each. I was very upfront about the damage and showed both people the COA's that state they're imperfect balls. So in the end I made 90 bucks and got to keep the best one for myself. Not bragging, by any means, just putting more information out there on how great of a deal I think these balls are at 36 dollars(what I paid, they are slightly more now) a piece delivered. I think there are a LOT more people out there who'd rather pay 100 bucks for a ball that's slightly imperfect then there are people who want to spend 300 plus for a "perfect" ball.

Not to sound like a jerk but if you guys are buying autos of guys from steiner...lets just say you are wasting your money.

I'm not directing this post at you either Orion. Just in general. Steiner is one of the most overpriced companies and you only deal with them when you have to. For Aaron, you really don't have to.

no one on here is buying standard markup stuff from steiner

 

[orion9578]

Just a little update about my three balls. I paid 109 something with shipping. I sold two of the balls locally for 100 cash a piece each. I was very upfront about the damage and showed both people the COA's that state they're imperfect balls. So in the end I made 90 bucks and got to keep the best one for myself. Not bragging, by any means, just putting more information out there on how great of a deal I think these balls are at 36 dollars(what I paid, they are slightly more now) a piece delivered. I think there are a LOT more people out there who'd rather pay 100 bucks for a ball that's slightly imperfect then there are people who want to spend 300 plus for a "perfect" ball.

Not to sound like a jerk but if you guys are buying autos of guys from steiner...lets just say you are wasting your money.

I'm not directing this post at you either Orion. Just in general. Steiner is one of the most overpriced companies and you only deal with them when you have to. For Aaron, you really don't have to.

no one on here is buying standard markup stuff from steiner

+1. We're talking about buying Hank Aaron autographed baseballs that are slightly imperfect for 40(I only paid 30) dollars plus shipping. Take these same balls to any local show(around here anyways) and mark them up 300% and they'll sell all day long. Just saying.

Edit. I wanted to add that the two people I sold the balls to bought them to re-sell. They'll make $50, minimum, on them as well.

 

[predatorkj]

[quote="steve-a-reno":dyid7a9y]Could the sigs be more legible, sure, but if mine end up like the ones chris and casey got I'll be thrilled. I for one like a nice big auto on the ball. All this talk about him being old, guess what.......he is. It is a part of life. Just like everyone bitching about musials decline in some of his autos. They are old men and a bit shaky. If you don't want one, don't buy one. If you prefer an older signature go buy one of them.

As much as this baord preaches about quality, this thread must be an anamoly or something. Look, nobody is bitching. Of course Aaron is old. Our point is take the money, and buy a nice clean auto on a nice ball. Doing anything else usually means you are desperate. Now, if you purchased these because you are of the ilk who can't afford a better copy, kudos. Nothing wrong with that. But if you have the money to burn and you purchased one of these hoping to get a nice ball, it was a odd chance to take knowing it was blemished in some way.

I think it all comes down to personal taste with these. Personally I would never consider buying a Steiner Aaron for $350, but for $40, with a decent shot it is the ball that is not in great shape, I went in for 3. Hopefully I'll get at least a couple nicer ones, they'll make a great incentive in school for my students, I can cut it up for a custom card, and worst case scenario I have a messy signature of one of the all-time greats for under the price of a box of Topps.

Are you sure you and I aren't poor, bottom feeders who can't afford a nice arron as predatorkj. Give me a break.[/quote:dyid7a9y]

From the looks of his post below yours, it looks like Topnotchsy got my point. I didn't really expect you to get my point though Steve. Generally, you act very aggresive towards any of my posts.


My point was, first of all you guys are buying from steiner. That's usually a no-no unless you just like overpaying. I can get an Aaron ball right now for $150 and it'll surely be cleaner than some of these. Now I never said it was a bad deal. But it would be no different than buying a regular GU over a patch or a base auto not numbered over a 1/1 auto. Me, I generally will not give anyone crap about that. But I've had my ass reamed here for stating as much before and now all you are apparently okay with a crappy Aaron auto(not in all cases but in some). So in essence, you are buying something because it's considered cheap. Or are you saying you're not? Which is it? Because as it stands, he may one of the greatest hitters in the world, and me, I'd like to have something comparable to that. Something nice. Hey...if it was Mike Bourn, I'd understand.


If it's what you want then that is totally cool. I was simply offering my advice as an actual autograph collector. Something a lot of people here are not. And I can really tell. Because autograph collectors think a lot differently than most of you seem to. Already discussed this deal with just about everyone I have numbers for trying to see if anyone purchased any as I was curious to whether or not they had any luck getting a nice ball. Not one single person I have talked to got one. In fact, most thought it was a dumb deal. They couldn't understand, as I, the use in buying something with a noticeable defect. Now does that make it a dumb deal? To me it's risky. To a lot of you guys...no. Take that for what its worth.

Oh...and btw...I didn't buy one. I saved up a little money and got a nice clean Willie Mays auto with psa/dna as well as Say Hey authentication for $100. Want a scan, let me know. But there are far cheaper places to get autos than steiner. You might as well be buying cards off of MLB.COM. Or buying stuff from mounted memories. So please quit with this $300 business.

 

[matchpenalty]

Steiner does have some very sweet sales from time to time. Even on game used teams they work with on occassion.

 

[predatorkj]

Just a little update about my three balls. I paid 109 something with shipping. I sold two of the balls locally for 100 cash a piece each. I was very upfront about the damage and showed both people the COA's that state they're imperfect balls. So in the end I made 90 bucks and got to keep the best one for myself. Not bragging, by any means, just putting more information out there on how great of a deal I think these balls are at 36 dollars(what I paid, they are slightly more now) a piece delivered. I think there are a LOT more people out there who'd rather pay 100 bucks for a ball that's slightly imperfect then there are people who want to spend 300 plus for a "perfect" ball.

Not to sound like a jerk but if you guys are buying autos of guys from steiner...lets just say you are wasting your money.

I'm not directing this post at you either Orion. Just in general. Steiner is one of the most overpriced companies and you only deal with them when you have to. For Aaron, you really don't have to.

no one on here is buying standard markup stuff from steiner

+1. We're talking about buying Hank Aaron autographed baseballs that are slightly imperfect for 40(I only paid 30) dollars plus shipping. Take these same balls to any local show(around here anyways) and mark them up 300% and they'll sell all day long. Just saying.

Edit. I wanted to add that the two people I sold the balls to bought them to re-sell. They'll make $50, minimum, on them as well.

I guess ya'll missed the part where I said the post wasn't directed at you Orion? Must have. In any case, a few here seem to think that they saved hundreds of dollars. Yes. They did. If they were buying from Steiner.

As for marking them up at shows and selling them, that is a great idea. But if someone is out there at that show buying them from you and then flipping them(which based on your math, they'd have to ask $170 to make their $50) they aren't selling to your normal autograph collector. I can't name a person I know that would touch it at that price if it has belmishes. Hell, they didn't even want them at the $40. Most of the big money in the autograph industry is made on people who are either desperate to have an auto or just don't know the market. I know because I have been on the receiving end of both before. And I learned. Though you still get sucked in from time to time. I paid $100 at Tristar for Earl Campbell because I needed him on my HOF Oilers mini and he isn't looking too good health wise these days. I also paid $40 for Mike Munchak. Is his auto worth $100 to me? No. Is Munchak's worth $40 to me? No. Is having that helmet finished completely and having to only pay for Campbell and Munchak worth it to me? You bet. I was desperate to get those two as they are tough to come by and I wasn't waiting when I had the chance.


So I somewhat understand why people may have bit on the Aaron ball. I was just saying, your normal auto collector won't normally do that.

 

[orion9578]

I guess ya'll missed the part where I said the post wasn't directed at you Orion? Must have. In any case, a few here seem to think that they saved hundreds of dollars. Yes. They did. If they were buying from Steiner.

As for marking them up at shows and selling them, that is a great idea. But if someone is out there at that show buying them from you and then flipping them(which based on your math, they'd have to ask $170 to make their $50) they aren't selling to your normal autograph collector. I can't name a person I know that would touch it at that price if it has belmishes. Hell, they didn't even want them at the $40. Most of the big money in the autograph industry is made on people who are either desperate to have an auto or just don't know the market. I know because I have been on the receiving end of both before. And I learned. Though you still get sucked in from time to time. I paid $100 at Tristar for Earl Campbell because I needed him on my HOF Oilers mini and he isn't looking too good health wise these days. I also paid $40 for Mike Munchak. Is his auto worth $100 to me? No. Is Munchak's worth $40 to me? No. Is having that helmet finished completely and having to only pay for Campbell and Munchak worth it to me? You bet. I was desperate to get those two as they are tough to come by and I wasn't waiting when I had the chance.


So I somewhat understand why people may have bit on the Aaron ball. I was just saying, your normal auto collector won't normally do that.

Nope, I saw you say you weren't talking to me, clear as day. I felt like responding. If/when they sell Hank Aaron autographed baseballs with slight imperfections with Steiner COA's for 30 dollars, I'm buying another 3. Basically I don't care that you don't think it's a deal(or you think it is) or that you can get this or that elsewhere for a better price. I can triple my money on them every time. The people buying them from me will make $50+ dollars every time. The people buying the balls from them love the items they buy. The people buying them don't sit around and search out the best deals possible like you or I or probably 99% of this boards would. I'm not pushing Steiner or any other company. I've ONLY said that THIS deal was a good deal.

 

[predatorkj]

Nope, I saw you say you weren't talking to me, clear as day. I felt like responding. If/when they sell Hank Aaron autographed baseballs with slight imperfections with Steiner COA's for 30 dollars, I'm buying another 3. Basically I don't care that you don't think it's a deal(or you think it is) or that you can get this or that elsewhere for a better price. I can triple my money on them every time. The people buying them from me will make $50+ dollars every time. The people buying the balls from them love the items they buy. The people buying them don't sit around and search out the best deals possible like you or I or probably 99% of this boards would. I'm not pushing Steiner or any other company. I've ONLY said that THIS deal was a good deal.

If we are talking about making money, I'd have to agree. If not, I don't. As I recall, we had more than a few who were doing it because they wanted the ball for themselves despite any damage. I was merely pointing out a better copy could be had for a fraction of the normal price tag they see on Steiner. You want a $30 baseball for your collection, 9 times out of 10 you'll get one.

I'd also like to clarify that I am not calling anyone dumb for buying a ball like this. I just think if you know something, you might as well throw it in there. I just wanted to let folks know there are good deals out there minus the damage. You guys who are flipping them is really besides the point. At least the one I am trying to make. So with that, I'll shut my trap and you guys, the ones who kept the balls, enjoy them. The ones who sold them, enjoy the money.