Adam Dunn might hit 600 HR, would he make the HOF?

[markakis8]

Yes, but all those players have done much more than hit HRs. The exception is Sammy Sosa, and he might never make the HOF....and he actually won an MVP!

Sigh. I'll bump this thread if Dunn ever gets there. You guys will change your mind if it ever happens. And the reality it - it's a definite possibility.

 

[HPC]

Sigh. I'll bump this thread if Dunn ever gets there. You guys will change your mind if it ever happens. And the reality it - it's a definite possibility.

Theres a possibility Salma Hayek will leave the French billionaire for me.

When she does ill bump this thread and show you guys!

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

In any case, 600 clearly doesn't mean as much as it used to as five of the eight players who've broken that threshold in all of history have all played within the last several years or are still playing.

 

[scotty216brs]

Sigh. I'll bump this thread if Dunn ever gets there. You guys will change your mind if it ever happens. And the reality it - it's a definite possibility.

Yeah, sure it's possible.....but he will have at least ~3,000 strikeouts and that is not HOF worthy. I don't think Reggie Jackson would have made the hall if he never made it to the postseason.

Anyways, see you in 2024 to say "I told ya so!"

 

[George_Calfas]

I also see many non-HOF that have more hits than Ozzie...so how is 2500 a watermark for the HOF?

The point being he was not a one trick pony. 2500 is not 3000, ie a "lock" but he does have more hits than say Mantle and Berra.

 

[markakis8]

But all of those potential 9 others, have so much more on their resume's than just HR's and Walks. Even if he hit 600 HR's, can you really put him on par in a class of Bonds, Ruth, Aaron, Griffey, Mays, Pujols, Rodriguez, Sosa, and Thome?? To me, even with 600 HR's, Dunn is not in a class with any of those guys as a player.

I can put him on par with Thome if Dunn gets there, sure.

 

[saferseas]

If anything, 600 hr's should be MORE of a milestone now than in previous generations. Modern pitching is light years ahead of what it was in the past, especially when you factor in all the different pitchers that batters will face in a given series. And i would also add that in a "post-steroid" era, players who average 40 hr's a year are absolutely not a dime-a-dozen.

 

[tramers]

no

 

[mlbsalltimegreats]

Juan Pierre would not and should not be a hall of famer even if he somehow managed to get 3000.

Hed be in the same category as Dunn: hung around long enough while being mediocre to reach a milestone. No major awards, not alot of all stars, never or rarely led the league in anything, etc.

Im not understating the achievement of 600 homeruns, but you also have to realize that voters habits have changed. Its not as cut and dry as it was in the 70s and 80s. With the advent of sabermetrics and higher importance placed in other statistical categories, guys like Dunn will be on the outside looking in

I agree with you on the bolded and the way it will change is they will no longer let these milestone guys in on the first ballot like they used to but you have to remember that they have 15 chances and even with the voting habits changed the only thing that will really change is the gaurantee of a first ballot induction that use to be automatic when reaching those major milestone. Now if Dunn somehow gets 600 Hrs, sure voting habits have change so that just means he wont get in first ballot but he will eventually get it (Maybe 6 or 7th time). I dont think Dunn will get to 600 but if he does just like Pierre he will eventually get into the hall.

 

[markakis8]

I agree with you on the bolded and the way it will change is they will no longer let these milestone guys in on the first ballot like they used to but you have to remember that they have 15 chances and even with the voting habits changed the only thing that will really change is the gaurantee of a first ballot induction that used to be automatic when reaching those major milestone. Now if Dunn somehow gets 600 Hrs, sure voting habits have change so that just means he wont get in first ballot but he will eventually get it (Maybe 6 or 7th time). I dont think Dunn will get to 600 but if he does just like Pierre he will eventually get into the hall.

Agree with everything you say here.

 

[packbusta]

Something still has be scratching my head. Dave Kingman was blackballed?

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Something still has be scratching my head. Dave Kingman was blackballed?

Yes. He never liked the media and vice-versa

 

[Sean_C]

I'd say Dunn compares well with Harmon Killebrew, even if Baseball-Reference has him similar to Reggie Jackson. Dunn still has a pretty impressive OBP for such a low BA, and HOF voters do love the longball...

 

[HPC]

Pre Steroid Era voters love the longball

 

[Mudcatsfan]

he is a poor mans Dave Kingman just with more HR's. He will not even be up for vote

You are misinformed. He's actually closer to Reggie Jackson & Harmon Killebrew

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dunnad01.shtml

 

[DRav87]

I just read through this entire thread and I gotta agree with markakis8. I understand he hasn't won any MVP's, lead the league in home runs, or made many All-Star games but if he hits 600 home runs it will be laughable if he doesn't get in. Hitting 600 home runs is not easy by any means so I don't understand how you could leave someone out of the Hall of Fame who completed this feat. I think some of you are down playing the whole feat of hitting 600 home runs, who cares if he "hangs around" to accomplishment it, he will still have done it which is pretty impressive.

 

[scotty216brs]

I just read through this entire thread and I gotta agree with markakis8. I understand he hasn't won any MVP's, lead the league in home runs, or made many All-Star games but if he hits 600 home runs it will be laughable if he doesn't get in. Hitting 600 home runs is not easy by any means so I don't understand how you could leave someone out of the Hall of Fame who completed this feat. I think some of you are down playing the whole feat of hitting 600 home runs, who cares if he "hangs around" to accomplishment it, he will still have done it which is pretty impressive.

Is it laughable if Sosa doesn't make the hall?

 

[383astro]

Would it be considered "hanging around" if he accomplished 600 hrs in 19 seasons? Mays hit 660 in 23 seasons, 586 for Frank Robinson in 21 seasons, 573 for Harmon Killebrew in 22 seasons, etc. I realize these guys had more skill in other areas than Dunn, but I dont think it would be considered hanging around compiling if he gets equal amounts of hrs in less seasons. Unless of course he reverts back to 2011 and hurts his team.

 

[Frow]

I just read through this entire thread and I gotta agree with markakis8. I understand he hasn't won any MVP's, lead the league in home runs, or made many All-Star games but if he hits 600 home runs it will be laughable if he doesn't get in. Hitting 600 home runs is not easy by any means so I don't understand how you could leave someone out of the Hall of Fame who completed this feat. I think some of you are down playing the whole feat of hitting 600 home runs, who cares if he "hangs around" to accomplishment it, he will still have done it which is pretty impressive.

I don't think anyone is saying it isn't a great accomplishment...it truly is, but one of the best players ever....no.

Let's look at one other thing though.

# of players with 600+ HR:
1904-1990: 3
1990-2012: 5

If you look down the list of active players....there's a good chance that number is going to expand even more.

 

[predatorkj]

Ok, name me a player, any player, with 500 hr's or more that has not been tied to peds, who isn't in the hall.


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