And Twins! (The Twins talk and pick-up thread).

[devin]

well if morneau is in it you know were to come!

 

[Musial Collector]

Ive seem Cuddy on ebay

 

[Guest]

Looks like Plouffe will get another shot at SS, hopefully if his throwing is good he'll be their starting SS next season

 

[TGutta]

Couple more pickups in the mail today. My first Span Bazooka Back, will probably be kind of difficult to track down 09 and 10. Also gotta love the price on the Benson

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180708586526?ss ... 500wt_1287

 

[Slette]

Thome placed on waivers, per KFAN

 

[TBTwinsFan]

Thome placed on waivers, per KFAN

Kubel was too.


I wanted to see Thome play one last time. At least I saw him play once...

 

[TBTwinsFan]

I saw this on MLB Trade Rumors. I got a little bummed when I did, but I don't think there was much hope anyway...

Scott Boras isn't likely to send client Prince Fielder to play for the St. Paul Saints next year...

 

[Musial Collector]

Thome placed on waivers, per KFAN

Kubel was too.


I wanted to see Thome play one last time. At least I saw him play once...

Almost every player hits waivers in August, so its no sure sign that he will be gone, but the possibility is there for both Kubel and Thome. Twins arent going anywhere so Thome is more than likely to be traded to a contender, as he wouldnt be back next year. Kubel on the other hand is interesting as to what the Twins would do with him. Free agent next year, will cost some money to sign, is a solid hitter when healthy, average at best in the field, but that is the problem with Kubel, we need guys that can stay healthy 90% of the year minimum. Look at this team, Mauer out 2 months, Morneau out 2 months, Span out 2 months, Young out 1 month, Kubel out 1 1/2 months, Casilla out 1+ months, Baker, Blackburn, Liriano, Nishi, Cuddy, on and on and on with the injury bug. I dont know what we could get for Kubel now, but if there is zero intent on signing him in the off season, better to get something rather than nothing for him, same case with Young.

 

[Guest]

Thome placed on waivers, per KFAN

Kubel was too.


I wanted to see Thome play one last time. At least I saw him play once...

Almost every player hits waivers in August, so its no sure sign that he will be gone, but the possibility is there for both Kubel and Thome. Twins arent going anywhere so Thome is more than likely to be traded to a contender, as he wouldnt be back next year. Kubel on the other hand is interesting as to what the Twins would do with him. Free agent next year, will cost some money to sign, is a solid hitter when healthy, average at best in the field, but that is the problem with Kubel, we need guys that can stay healthy 90% of the year minimum. Look at this team, Mauer out 2 months, Morneau out 2 months, Span out 2 months, Young out 1 month, Kubel out 1 1/2 months, Casilla out 1+ months, Baker, Blackburn, Liriano, Nishi, Cuddy, on and on and on with the injury bug. I dont know what we could get for Kubel now, but if there is zero intent on signing him in the off season, better to get something rather than nothing for him, same case with Young.

The main article in the ST today sure wanted them to get rid of all of the vets for some pitching next year

 

[Musial Collector]

Reusse is a moron for the most part.

You dump Capps and Nathan and who is the Twins closer in 2012? Buy out Nathan and sign to a lower number maybe, I dont know?
You get rid of Kubel and Cuddyer, who is your RF 2012? Revere? Better not be, his weak arm is not suited for RF. LF, sure but not RF.
He fails to mention Thome's $ coming off the books.
Why not get rid of your POS starters with the names of Blackburn (4.75 in 2012, 5.5 in 2013) and Slowey (2.7 in 2011, FA 2012), theres some additional savings he fails to put a price on.
He also fails to mention the middle relief issues on this team. They all need to go sans Perkins, keep him in the set up role. A bump in the road over the last week doesnt warrant moving Perkins.
And why not shop Morneau, I dont get the love affair with him, he really has fallen back to earth. Why pay a guy 14 million for another couple of years to play 80-90 games, doesnt make sense.
And what free agent pitchers are out there that hes thinking are going to come to Minnesota and be a legitimate No. 1 and 2 starter?
We still need bats on this team. Mauer 1 HR, Revere 0 HR, Span 2 HR, Nishi 0 HR, Casilla 2 HR. Thats over half your potential starting lineup in 2012 with a total of 5 HRs on the year. Yes I know, these guys have missed a ton due to injuries, but its not like the numbers are going to multiply 10 fold overnight.
Yeap, Reusse sure has the Twins issues nailed down. Get those two starters and we are back in the playoffs. Runs deeper than that!! ::facepalm::

 

[TBTwinsFan]

Thome placed on waivers, per KFAN

Kubel was too.


I wanted to see Thome play one last time. At least I saw him play once...

Almost every player hits waivers in August, so its no sure sign that he will be gone, but the possibility is there for both Kubel and Thome. Twins arent going anywhere so Thome is more than likely to be traded to a contender, as he wouldnt be back next year. Kubel on the other hand is interesting as to what the Twins would do with him. Free agent next year, will cost some money to sign, is a solid hitter when healthy, average at best in the field, but that is the problem with Kubel, we need guys that can stay healthy 90% of the year minimum. Look at this team, Mauer out 2 months, Morneau out 2 months, Span out 2 months, Young out 1 month, Kubel out 1 1/2 months, Casilla out 1+ months, Baker, Blackburn, Liriano, Nishi, Cuddy, on and on and on with the injury bug. I dont know what we could get for Kubel now, but if there is zero intent on signing him in the off season, better to get something rather than nothing for him, same case with Young.

Huh. I guess I didn't know that many were placed on waivers.

I assume he will still play until he is claimed or traded? If so, I better get to the next weekend game that I am able to get too. As much as I like him, I hope he can play for a playoff contender at the end of the year. He really deserves it. I am just glad he wore a Minnesota jersey when he hit 600.

As far as Kubel, if we would be a better team with him gone (whatever that means) he should probably go.

 

[Guest]

Reusse is a moron for the most part.

You dump Capps and Nathan and who is the Twins closer in 2012? Buy out Nathan and sign to a lower number maybe, I dont know?
You get rid of Kubel and Cuddyer, who is your RF 2012? Revere? Better not be, his weak arm is not suited for RF. LF, sure but not RF.
He fails to mention Thome's $ coming off the books.
Why not get rid of your POS starters with the names of Blackburn (4.75 in 2012, 5.5 in 2013) and Slowey (2.7 in 2011, FA 2012), theres some additional savings he fails to put a price on.
He also fails to mention the middle relief issues on this team. They all need to go sans Perkins, keep him in the set up role. A bump in the road over the last week doesnt warrant moving Perkins.
And why not shop Morneau, I dont get the love affair with him, he really has fallen back to earth. Why pay a guy 14 million for another couple of years to play 80-90 games, doesnt make sense.
And what free agent pitchers are out there that hes thinking are going to come to Minnesota and be a legitimate No. 1 and 2 starter?
We still need bats on this team. Mauer 1 HR, Revere 0 HR, Span 2 HR, Nishi 0 HR, Casilla 2 HR. Thats over half your potential starting lineup in 2012 with a total of 5 HRs on the year. Yes I know, these guys have missed a ton due to injuries, but its not like the numbers are going to multiply 10 fold overnight.
Yeap, Reusse sure has the Twins issues nailed down. Get those two starters and we are back in the playoffs. Runs deeper than that!! ::facepalm::

C Mauer
1B Morneau
2B Plouffe
SS Nishioka
3B Valencia
LF Revere
CF Span
RF Cuddyer
Bench- Benson, Butera, Hughes, Casilla

SP Pavano
SP Liriano
SP Henricks
SP Baker
SP Free Agent
LRP Perkins
LRP Dumatrait
LRP Mijares
RP Burnett
RP Swarzak
RP AAA or FA
CP Nathan

 

[Musial Collector]

C Mauer - Yes
1B Morneau - Hope not
2B Plouffe - NEVER, RF is a possibility if Cuddy and Kubel are both gone, otherwise bench
SS Nishioka - Needs to go
3B Valencia - Yes for at least 1 more year
LF Revere - Yes
CF Span - Yes
RF Cuddyer - Yes
Bench- Benson, Butera, Hughes, Casilla (should be your starting 2b)

SP Pavano - Yes
SP Liriano - Yes but wearing thin on me
SP Henricks - Maybe
SP Baker - Yes
SP Free Agent
LRP Perkins - Yes
LRP Dumatrait - Maybe
LRP Mijares - Has to go!!!
RP Burnett - Almost has to go!!
RP Swarzak - Why RP, why not start? Hes been solid
RP AAA or FA
CP Nathan - possible

 

[Guest]

C Mauer - Yes
1B Morneau - Hope not- Same here, but who else?
2B Plouffe - NEVER, RF is a possibility if Cuddy and Kubel are both gone, otherwise bench- He can hit for power, as long as they've got his throwing mechanics fixed
SS Nishioka - Needs to go- Give him one more shot with the offseason to work on actually hitting the ball
3B Valencia - Yes for at least 1 more year
LF Revere - Yes
CF Span - Yes
RF Cuddyer - Yes
Bench- Benson, Butera, Hughes, Casilla (should be your starting 2b)

SP Pavano - Yes
SP Liriano - Yes but wearing thin on me
SP Henricks - Maybe
SP Baker - Yes
SP Free Agent
LRP Perkins - Yes
LRP Dumatrait - Maybe
LRP Mijares - Has to go!!! Chuck James to replace him?
RP Burnett - Almost has to go!! Eats innings
RP Swarzak - Why RP, why not start? Hes been solid- Is he better than the other options, hopefully the FA would be a 1 or 2 starter
RP AAA or FA
CP Nathan - possible

 

[yrocks2001]

A few key points
1- Nathan will most certainly be bought out for 2012.
2- Capps likely will not be offered a contract by the Twins in 2012 unless it's at an incredibly discounted price. He may be better off with a change of scenery.
3- Both Span and Revere will likely by in the OF next year with RF being filled by Cuddyer if he resigns. I could see the Twins moving Span to LF and Revere to CF which makes more sense from a positioning perspective but the Twins seem to make a lot of decisions based on seniority.
4- Kevin Slowey will not be wearing a Twins uniform next season. Unfortunate, but the Twins don't apparently like him.
5- There are a few reason why you wouldn't shop Morneau, #1 is that you'd be selling low on him, #2 teams likely wouldn't want to take on that salary with his history of head injuries.
6- Gardy has discussed moving Blackburn and Duensing to the pen if they get a starter or 2 that could replace them in the rotation.

The Twins will have the money to spend but will not draw big name free agent pitcher in the off season.

 

[Musial Collector]

C Mauer - Yes
1B Morneau - Hope not- Same here, but who else?
2B Plouffe - NEVER, RF is a possibility if Cuddy and Kubel are both gone, otherwise bench- He can hit for power, as long as they've got his throwing mechanics fixed
SS Nishioka - Needs to go- Give him one more shot with the offseason to work on actually hitting the ball
3B Valencia - Yes for at least 1 more year
LF Revere - Yes
CF Span - Yes
RF Cuddyer - Yes
Bench- Benson, Butera, Hughes, Casilla (should be your starting 2b)

SP Pavano - Yes
SP Liriano - Yes but wearing thin on me
SP Henricks - Maybe
SP Baker - Yes
SP Free Agent
LRP Perkins - Yes
LRP Dumatrait - Maybe
LRP Mijares - Has to go!!! Chuck James to replace him?
RP Burnett - Almost has to go!! Eats innings
RP Swarzak - Why RP, why not start? Hes been solid- Is he better than the other options, hopefully the FA would be a 1 or 2 starter
RP AAA or FA
CP Nathan - possible

Burnett - 2011, 41 innings, 5.93 ERA, 1.512 WHIP. No thanks.
Mijares - 2011, 37 innings, 5.35 ERA, 1.730 WHIP. No thanks.

 

[Musial Collector]

A few key points
1- Nathan will most certainly be bought out for 2012. - Agree, if they dont, then the front office needs to be canned!!!
2- Capps likely will not be offered a contract by the Twins in 2012 unless it's at an incredibly discounted price. He may be better off with a change of scenery. - Capps has overstayed his welcome.
3- Both Span and Revere will likely by in the OF next year with RF being filled by Cuddyer if he resigns. I could see the Twins moving Span to LF and Revere to CF which makes more sense from a positioning perspective but the Twins seem to make a lot of decisions based on seniority. - Cuddyer will gladly resign, at fair market price for him. And I think you may be right, Span would be a solid LF.
4- Kevin Slowey will not be wearing a Twins uniform next season. Unfortunate, but the Twins don't apparently like him. - Why unfortunate? He's a .500 pitcher with a career 4.48 ERA. Thats just too shatty to be starting every 5 days IMO.
5- There are a few reason why you wouldn't shop Morneau, #1 is that you'd be selling low on him, #2 teams likely wouldn't want to take on that salary with his history of head injuries. - Ive lost all interest in Morneau, so sell low and get rid of that 14 million and use is somewhere else. Why keep 14 million on the payroll for a guy that missed 27 games in 2009, 81 games in 2010 and 63 in 2011. If you are going to miss half your games, give half your salary back :lol:
6- Gardy has discussed moving Blackburn and Duensing to the pen if they get a starter or 2 that could replace them in the rotation. - Duensing I see, but Blackburn, dump that salary, not worth almost 5 million to be a set up guy.

The Twins will have the money to spend but will not draw big name free agent pitcher in the off season. - Agree, I really have no clue whos out there or who would come here.

 

[Guest]

A few key points
1- Nathan will most certainly be bought out for 2012. - Agree, if they dont, then the front office needs to be canned!!!
2- Capps likely will not be offered a contract by the Twins in 2012 unless it's at an incredibly discounted price. He may be better off with a change of scenery. - Capps has overstayed his welcome.
3- Both Span and Revere will likely by in the OF next year with RF being filled by Cuddyer if he resigns. I could see the Twins moving Span to LF and Revere to CF which makes more sense from a positioning perspective but the Twins seem to make a lot of decisions based on seniority. - Cuddyer will gladly resign, at fair market price for him. And I think you may be right, Span would be a solid LF. Revere can't play CF though with his arm, not sure if he can make the throw from 3B to 1B consistently even
4- Kevin Slowey will not be wearing a Twins uniform next season. Unfortunate, but the Twins don't apparently like him. - Why unfortunate? He's a .500 pitcher with a career 4.48 ERA. Thats just too shatty to be starting every 5 days IMO.
5- There are a few reason why you wouldn't shop Morneau, #1 is that you'd be selling low on him, #2 teams likely wouldn't want to take on that salary with his history of head injuries. - Ive lost all interest in Morneau, so sell low and get rid of that 14 million and use is somewhere else. Why keep 14 million on the payroll for a guy that missed 27 games in 2009, 81 games in 2010 and 63 in 2011. If you are going to miss half your games, give half your salary back :lol:
6- Gardy has discussed moving Blackburn and Duensing to the pen if they get a starter or 2 that could replace them in the rotation. - Duensing I see, but Blackburn, dump that salary, not worth almost 5 million to be a set up guy.

The Twins will have the money to spend but will not draw big name free agent pitcher in the off season. - Agree, I really have no clue whos out there or who would come here.

 

[TBTwinsFan]

I say Burnett goes. Whenever I hear him (playing) on the radio, he seems to give up a ton of runs.

 

[Guest]

I say Burnett goes. Whenever I hear him (playing) on the radio, he seems to give up a ton of runs.

I hope they keep him until Twinsfest, want to get the Chrome plate signed that I have