Did you guys get the email from Mike (MyPens66) about FCB???

[flightposite]

Hilarious.

My comments.

1. I don't see why this thread will be deleted tomorrow. (edit: ok, it's now just a couple of guys bickering back and forth, most likely because its late at night)

2. MyPens had an idea that most people on beckett have had at one time or another... I wish we had a better board to go to, only he took it one step further, he gave us a board to go to.

3. That board was not viable. Gilmore had a better board created. Whatever the terms that were discussed between the two at the time, we don't know. I'm sure there wasn't anything discussed other than what would get the most people to the boards and Gilmore's board did that. If we went with who had the idea first instead of going with the better performing board, we would have just stayed at Beckett.

4. I could care less if the mods check my PMs. If I have problems I will voice them and not worry if they are read. If you have a problem with it, maybe you should just get the persons email and contact them directly. You're using their software to communicate, if they have reason to check for something, they should be able to. I have no problem as long as the suspensions do not get out of line.

5. The only problems I have with the site are (and they are minor);

A. How Razor is treated. I know everyone disagrees (Mods - Hey, we are impartial, see there was this one idea I didn't like... Prospectors - I love prospects! You guys are just hating. Others - ...) on this and I have my opinion, that's what it is, my opinion. (What a great move, Brian goes away from posting on the boards so he doesn't have to answer questions from those that really have them, but still gets all his info posted question free by gilmore or whoever happens to get the info).

B. I think the mods are becoming more and more like BMB mods everyday. This place seems to be becoming more and more cliquey. Anyone that becomes a mod seems to be from the same group of people. Anyone voicing discourt (200lb, Jeff N) are starting to be silenced. In my view suspensions, locked & deleted threads are becoming more and more (just what i think I have been noticing).

This is the best site out there, the people that run it actually care about it and aren't just out to profit (i.e. Beckett) off of us. Now, as for the "profits" and swag that Gilmore is getting... Who cares, he deserves it, they put the time in and make the site what it is. If you truly have a problem with it, then maybe you should go to the other site.

 

[cgilmo]

[quote="Jays_Cards":36jh4rjm]

[quote="Jays_Cards":36jh4rjm][quote="sethyarkony":36jh4rjm]so why do you oppose it now instead of fighting the rules when they were originally made?

Why are you always trying to provoke an argument? You should really relax when the thing in question really does not pertain to you in the least. I dont like to call people out, but lately it has been incessant.

I am not provoking anything. I want to see where they are coming from. I provided them the rule from the TOS, and now that they have said that, I questioned their previous actions (or lack thereof) and why they have made it a problem now.

I have no intention to start an argument.

Thank you

The TOS of a website, if they are created post-creation of the site, are not created with input from the members. They had no say. In defense of the site, even though the TOS were created after some members had originally signed up, the TOS is clearly posted at the top of the forums visible for all to read. If you use these forums, it is assumed that you have read the TOS and agree to abide by the terms of said TOS. If not, as I stated earlier, choose not to use the forums. Its really a simple thing to understand. EOM!

So where did the topic of me starting an argument come up?

In another style, I was trying to relay that exact message you just typed.

Its implied with your wording and phrasing. How many times in the last week has a mod had to ask you to stop? Im not going to reply to anything else, because it can be construed as an argument, but you should really learn to just accept something being said at face value and formulate your own opinion without requiring someone else to spell everything out for you. Its part of maturity.........[/quote:36jh4rjm]

*In a non argument, calm conversational tone*

I still do not understand how people hear a "tone" to that question I posed regarding their disagreement with the TOS. After re-reading my question, I think I just asked why they have a problem with is now as opposed to before.

I do not require anyone to "spell things out for me", but I do think hearing their reasoning would be appropriate after they clearly presented their stance on the situation.[/quote:36jh4rjm]


You really don't know the answer to that? 95% of the members did not/will not read the TOS. Plain and simple. Why does it matter to you why I (or anyone else) has a problem with it? I could have sworn I presented my "stance" to Chris...not you. I could have sent it via "PM", but seeing as they aren't private why bother.[/quote:36jh4rjm]

what can i do or say to make you happy?

 

[nkdbacks]

Wow. I need to get on the board more often apparently. I don't know what's going on, who is wrong or right, and frankly I do not care at this point. I'm sick and tired of drama. There is enough of that in life in general and I don't need to have drama over the internet as well. But as I said, I don't really care. I just had to thank this gem once again...

I got an FCB tattoo on my ass last night. No regrets.

Thanks for the laugh tonight!

 

[PaulKonerkbro]

[quote="Jays_Cards":2rg6w3lk]

[quote="Jays_Cards":2rg6w3lk][quote="sethyarkony":2rg6w3lk]so why do you oppose it now instead of fighting the rules when they were originally made?

Why are you always trying to provoke an argument? You should really relax when the thing in question really does not pertain to you in the least. I dont like to call people out, but lately it has been incessant.

I am not provoking anything. I want to see where they are coming from. I provided them the rule from the TOS, and now that they have said that, I questioned their previous actions (or lack thereof) and why they have made it a problem now.

I have no intention to start an argument.

Thank you

The TOS of a website, if they are created post-creation of the site, are not created with input from the members. They had no say. In defense of the site, even though the TOS were created after some members had originally signed up, the TOS is clearly posted at the top of the forums visible for all to read. If you use these forums, it is assumed that you have read the TOS and agree to abide by the terms of said TOS. If not, as I stated earlier, choose not to use the forums. Its really a simple thing to understand. EOM!

So where did the topic of me starting an argument come up?

In another style, I was trying to relay that exact message you just typed.

Its implied with your wording and phrasing. How many times in the last week has a mod had to ask you to stop? Im not going to reply to anything else, because it can be construed as an argument, but you should really learn to just accept something being said at face value and formulate your own opinion without requiring someone else to spell everything out for you. Its part of maturity.........[/quote:2rg6w3lk]

*In a non argument, calm conversational tone*

I still do not understand how people hear a "tone" to that question I posed regarding their disagreement with the TOS. After re-reading my question, I think I just asked why they have a problem with is now as opposed to before.

I do not require anyone to "spell things out for me", but I do think hearing their reasoning would be appropriate after they clearly presented their stance on the situation.[/quote:2rg6w3lk]


You really don't know the answer to that? 95% of the members did not/will not read the TOS. Plain and simple. Why does it matter to you why I (or anyone else) has a problem with it? I could have sworn I presented my "stance" to Chris...not you. I could have sent it via "PM", but seeing as they aren't private why bother.[/quote:2rg6w3lk]
I think it should be the first thing you read but thats my opinion. The TOS is the foundation for everything that is carried out on the site. You guys kept asking why, so I gave you a straight answer. Please excuse my curiosity when you kept pressing the issue. It is a public forum, and I thought asking a question would not be a problem.

It could have been answered without a hostile response, but I will let it go.

Thanks

 

[MTBright]

ahhhh



beer

if you drink it with a straw you feel better quicker. just ask jeremy :lol:

 

[cgilmo]

now where is my duct tape?

 

[scotty21690]

Wow. I need to get on the board more often apparently. I don't know what's going on, who is wrong or right, and frankly I do not care at this point. I just had to thank this gem once again...

I got an FCB tattoo on my ass last night. No regrets.

Thanks for the laugh tonight!

Good to see you man, you should post more often.

 

[George K]

One of the primary concerns I have, is that mypens used CC instead of blind carbon copy to email you guys.

Now everyone that has ever registered here has access to our mailing list.

Oh, no. Not more unsolicited emails.

 

[Cobra29svt]

[quote="Jays_Cards":jrem3oz3]

[quote="Jays_Cards":jrem3oz3]

[quote="Jays_Cards":jrem3oz3][quote="sethyarkony":jrem3oz3]so why do you oppose it now instead of fighting the rules when they were originally made?

Why are you always trying to provoke an argument? You should really relax when the thing in question really does not pertain to you in the least. I dont like to call people out, but lately it has been incessant.

I am not provoking anything. I want to see where they are coming from. I provided them the rule from the TOS, and now that they have said that, I questioned their previous actions (or lack thereof) and why they have made it a problem now.

I have no intention to start an argument.

Thank you

The TOS of a website, if they are created post-creation of the site, are not created with input from the members. They had no say. In defense of the site, even though the TOS were created after some members had originally signed up, the TOS is clearly posted at the top of the forums visible for all to read. If you use these forums, it is assumed that you have read the TOS and agree to abide by the terms of said TOS. If not, as I stated earlier, choose not to use the forums. Its really a simple thing to understand. EOM!

So where did the topic of me starting an argument come up?

In another style, I was trying to relay that exact message you just typed.

Its implied with your wording and phrasing. How many times in the last week has a mod had to ask you to stop? Im not going to reply to anything else, because it can be construed as an argument, but you should really learn to just accept something being said at face value and formulate your own opinion without requiring someone else to spell everything out for you. Its part of maturity.........[/quote:jrem3oz3]

*In a non argument, calm conversational tone*

I still do not understand how people hear a "tone" to that question I posed regarding their disagreement with the TOS. After re-reading my question, I think I just asked why they have a problem with is now as opposed to before.

I do not require anyone to "spell things out for me", but I do think hearing their reasoning would be appropriate after they clearly presented their stance on the situation.[/quote:jrem3oz3]


You really don't know the answer to that? 95% of the members did not/will not read the TOS. Plain and simple. Why does it matter to you why I (or anyone else) has a problem with it? I could have sworn I presented my "stance" to Chris...not you. I could have sent it via "PM", but seeing as they aren't private why bother.[/quote:jrem3oz3]

Was that directed at me?[/quote:jrem3oz3]

No, I t was directed towards the person I quoted. I belive it was Seth. Did I quote you by accident?

 

[Cobra29svt]

[quote="Jays_Cards":1w8mda9t][quote="sethyarkony":1w8mda9t][quote="Jays_Cards":1w8mda9t][quote="sethyarkony":1w8mda9t]so why do you oppose it now instead of fighting the rules when they were originally made?

Why are you always trying to provoke an argument? You should really relax when the thing in question really does not pertain to you in the least. I dont like to call people out, but lately it has been incessant.

I am not provoking anything. I want to see where they are coming from. I provided them the rule from the TOS, and now that they have said that, I questioned their previous actions (or lack thereof) and why they have made it a problem now.

I have no intention to start an argument.

Thank you

The TOS of a website, if they are created post-creation of the site, are not created with input from the members. They had no say. In defense of the site, even though the TOS were created after some members had originally signed up, the TOS is clearly posted at the top of the forums visible for all to read. If you use these forums, it is assumed that you have read the TOS and agree to abide by the terms of said TOS. If not, as I stated earlier, choose not to use the forums. Its really a simple thing to understand. EOM!

So where did the topic of me starting an argument come up?

In another style, I was trying to relay that exact message you just typed.

Its implied with your wording and phrasing. How many times in the last week has a mod had to ask you to stop? Im not going to reply to anything else, because it can be construed as an argument, but you should really learn to just accept something being said at face value and formulate your own opinion without requiring someone else to spell everything out for you. Its part of maturity.........[/quote:1w8mda9t]

*In a non argument, calm conversational tone*

I still do not understand how people hear a "tone" to that question I posed regarding their disagreement with the TOS. After re-reading my question, I think I just asked why they have a problem with is now as opposed to before.

I do not require anyone to "spell things out for me", but I do think hearing their reasoning would be appropriate after they clearly presented their stance on the situation.[/quote:1w8mda9t]


You really don't know the answer to that? 95% of the members did not/will not read the TOS. Plain and simple. Why does it matter to you why I (or anyone else) has a problem with it? I could have sworn I presented my "stance" to Chris...not you. I could have sent it via "PM", but seeing as they aren't private why bother.[/quote:1w8mda9t]

what can i do or say to make you happy?[/quote:1w8mda9t]

Nothing. You answered my question honestly and that is all I ask.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

man, ive had to take a #1 for the last 30 minutes, but dont wanna miss anything!!!

 

[Jays_Cards]

[quote="Jays_Cards":3siysvek]

[quote="Jays_Cards":3siysvek][quote="sethyarkony":3siysvek][quote="Jays_Cards":3siysvek][quote="sethyarkony":3siysvek]so why do you oppose it now instead of fighting the rules when they were originally made?

Why are you always trying to provoke an argument? You should really relax when the thing in question really does not pertain to you in the least. I dont like to call people out, but lately it has been incessant.

I am not provoking anything. I want to see where they are coming from. I provided them the rule from the TOS, and now that they have said that, I questioned their previous actions (or lack thereof) and why they have made it a problem now.

I have no intention to start an argument.

Thank you

The TOS of a website, if they are created post-creation of the site, are not created with input from the members. They had no say. In defense of the site, even though the TOS were created after some members had originally signed up, the TOS is clearly posted at the top of the forums visible for all to read. If you use these forums, it is assumed that you have read the TOS and agree to abide by the terms of said TOS. If not, as I stated earlier, choose not to use the forums. Its really a simple thing to understand. EOM!

So where did the topic of me starting an argument come up?

In another style, I was trying to relay that exact message you just typed.

Its implied with your wording and phrasing. How many times in the last week has a mod had to ask you to stop? Im not going to reply to anything else, because it can be construed as an argument, but you should really learn to just accept something being said at face value and formulate your own opinion without requiring someone else to spell everything out for you. Its part of maturity.........[/quote:3siysvek]

*In a non argument, calm conversational tone*

I still do not understand how people hear a "tone" to that question I posed regarding their disagreement with the TOS. After re-reading my question, I think I just asked why they have a problem with is now as opposed to before.

I do not require anyone to "spell things out for me", but I do think hearing their reasoning would be appropriate after they clearly presented their stance on the situation.[/quote:3siysvek]


You really don't know the answer to that? 95% of the members did not/will not read the TOS. Plain and simple. Why does it matter to you why I (or anyone else) has a problem with it? I could have sworn I presented my "stance" to Chris...not you. I could have sent it via "PM", but seeing as they aren't private why bother.[/quote:3siysvek]

Was that directed at me?[/quote:3siysvek]

No, I t was directed towards the person I quoted. I belive it was Seth. Did I quote you by accident?[/quote:3siysvek]

No, Im just half asleep..My bad

 

[cgilmo]

One of the primary concerns I have, is that mypens used CC instead of blind carbon copy to email you guys.

Now everyone that has ever registered here has access to our mailing list.

Oh, no. Not more unsolicited emails.

It goes deeper than that. No board wants third parties to have access to their user database. Thanks to his childish actions, ours is out there.

 

[nkdbacks]

Wow. I need to get on the board more often apparently. I don't know what's going on, who is wrong or right, and frankly I do not care at this point. I just had to thank this gem once again...

I got an FCB tattoo on my ass last night. No regrets.

Thanks for the laugh tonight!

Good to see you man, you should post more often.

Hopefully I will have time for that in the future! College is keeping me busy right now. I'm hoping to get back on more as baseball season starts as well. I was starting to feel lethargic towards baseball for a while (typical for me in the offseason) but with Spring Training in the air you cant help but be excited once again. Just ordered my partial season tickets in fact! Here's to a drama free baseball season.

 

[MallCopKJ]

im upping the +/- to 60 on this hot topic

:shock: oh please NO! Hot Topics???? Lets not turn this into "The View"



:lol:

 

[cgilmo]

im upping the +/- to 60 on this hot topic

:shock: oh please NO! Hot Topics???? Lets not turn this into "The View"



:lol:

a hot topic? are we about to be overrun with vamp kids?

 

[PaulKonerkbro]

we should have hot topics have the little flame logo on the folder!

 

[Bigfan5]

I rarely weigh in on posts of this type but after reading 20 pages of this I'm a bit put off by all the he said-she said back and forth. Everyone please remember that we are here because we collect baseball cards. This is not a forum of politics or world events, it's about baseball cards. Little pieces of cardboard that bring back a connection to the days when our mothers would have to yell at us to come in for dinner and all we wanted to do was stay out just a few minutes more and toss the ball around. Whether you're a prospector or a vintage collector, these cards are a reminder of our past and all the optimism we had before we got into the real world. We are all here to share in that common bond and to basically show off our own little piece of how we choose to hold onto the past. Most of us (me definitely included) carry signatures to show off our most prized cards and even if we don't contribute much, gain a bit of notoriety just because we have nice stuff. We all thump our chests around here and show off our stuff and revel in each others choices for collecting. Sure there is some jealousy and much too much bashing for (god forbid) not knowing baseball card etiquette (as if there is such a thing) but mostly it's a great, friendly forum which I enjoy immensely.

With all that in mind I could care less who started the site and who runs it for that matter. Do you all know who started and/or runs your favorite restaurant or car manufacturer or bank? If you did and there was some behind the scenes friction would you discontinue your use of said establishment? Would you get rid of your car if their was some tension on the board over who should actually be called the founding father of the company? I didn't think so. Who cares who is the rightful founder of this site? Who cares if Chris does or does not make a profit here? Are we charged for using this site? If not then what concern do we all have over the possible proceeds. Is the site run effectively and safe for people to use? If the answer is yes then what concern is it of ours what goes on behind the scenes?

Please let it go. I'm not on anyone's side here. I'm on my side in this one and it's that I'm happy a place exists where I can share (at 39 years old) my enjoyment of holding onto a piece of my childhood. A place where I've made some friends and a place I frequent more than most out there. Let's go back to posting about our hauls of over-priced cardboard that none of us has any business buying in the depression in which our country is currently entrenched.

Thanks for the long read...I feel like Jerry Maguire writing his mission statement. :lol:

 

[Brewer Andy]

Got to page 10 and gave up. No one cares but here's my 2 cents anyway: When Beckett decided to begin their now inevitable slow death by suicide the BMB community almost as a whole needed a new place to go. It sure as hell wasn't because there was no where else to go. There are, after all, several other well known forums out there for us to visit. Heck most of us probably visit them all once a week or so (hey, a collector's gotta keep his eyes and ears open for his needs). The reason we needed a "new" place to go was because this community is in fact a community. Most of us are familiar with each other to some degree and when we see the familiar names and posts and friends, we know we're in the right place. BMBers and FCBers needed "our own" place and thats just what the site creators intended to give us. In that they have excelled. Will I check out the new site? Sure, but it'll be hard to top whats already going on here. Gilmore has worked his tail off and deserves the occasional kick back IMO, no matter how lame Razor is

 

[gonzagacubs]

just out of curiosity, why does fcb need a corporate booth at the national?