Ebay question

[jarcar]

The bottom line here is that ebay is asking you to rate how REASONABLE the shipping charges are.

Just because I agree to abide by something, doesn't mean I find it reasonable. I don't think it's reasonable that my income taxes are as high as they are, but I still agree to pay them. Does that mean I can't complain about my taxes being too high?
I think it's unreasonable that I have to drive 25 MPH on some streets, but I don't drive 50 down them.

If agreeing to pay the shipping charge means you have to give them 5 stars, then there's simply no point in having that rating.
A user is asked to evaluate the shipping service received at the price paid.
I would rate this seller a 3.

Well said and reasoned. I also agree with positive feedback with 3 stars.

 

[cartersprings]

I got a card shipped to me the other day in a bubble mailer.. but that was it.. no soft sleeve, no top loader.. just the card put in a bubble mailer..

Here is what I left for feedback.. Every thing was better than expected.. So I left a positive.. His fees weren't that much, so I felt it was justified..

I recommend using a top loader for more protection, card was fine, Thanks!!

I had the same thing happen recently, except mine was in a penny-sleeve. Somehow I received it with no damage whatsoever.

I also once received three Sweet Spot auto cards loose in a large bubble mailer without any type of holder/protection at all. Needless to say, they were pretty dinged up.

 

[Sweetness]

Bottom line, if the card was fine you give 5 stars. Why knock down a seller's rating if you received your card in good condition. Why complain if you got your card. So you got a PWE so what.

 

[i43770]

Bottom line, if the card was fine you give 5 stars. Why knock down a seller's rating if you received your card in good condition. Why complain if you got your card. So you got a PWE so what.

But you aren't rating the condition of the card. You are rating the value of shipping. So if you don't feel that the seller gave a good value of shipping, why wouldn't you rate it as such?

 

[chuckbartowski]

If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

 

[Sweetness]

Because I am not a pety, complaining D-bag. I don't look up def. in the marriams dictonary, research ebay policy and look for reasons to knock down seller's ratings. If I get my card in good condition I give 5 stars and move on.

"Wa wa wa, I got a PWE with a nice card inside." Grow up!

 

[Sweetness]

If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

That is down right stupid. Why buy if you intend to leave bad feedback for not being satisfied? Just stupid!

 

[chuckbartowski]

If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

That is down right stupid. Why buy if you intend to leave bad feedback for not being satisfied? Just stupid!

It's not leaving bad feedback...if I get the card and it's not damaged they get positive feedback. This is about their shipping cost rating. $3 for PWE is unacceptable. If shipping is free or $0.50 then they would get 5 stars. But not $3.

 

[Rickzcards]

If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

That is down right stupid. Why buy if you intend to leave bad feedback for not being satisfied? Just stupid!

I'm pretty sure he didn't buy the card with the intention of leaving bad feedback. The seller should have sent in a better manner. Had he done so then this wouldn't even be a discussion. And the stars are a matter of opinion, he felt he didn't get what he paid for so he is expressing his opinion by giving the seller 1 star, and rightfully so in my opinion. You have your opinion and he has his.

 

[Wes]

If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

That is down right stupid. Why buy if you intend to leave bad feedback for not being satisfied? Just stupid!

I'm pretty sure he didn't buy the card with the intention of leaving bad feedback. The seller should have sent in a better manner. Had he done so then this wouldn't even be a discussion. And the stars are a matter of opinion, he felt he didn't get what he paid for so he is expressing his opinion by giving the seller 1 star, and rightfully so in my opinion. You have your opinion and he has his.

This type of pretentious sentiment is outrageous. Better? Better how? He received the card in perfect condition. PERIOD. It shouldn't matter how the seller got it to you, hand delivery, carrier pidgeon, who cares - you got the card you paid for for the cost you paid for in perfect condition. If all transactions went like that I'd be a happy to the extent of FIVE STARS. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

It's all fun and games until YOU receive a pwe.

I can only assume that no one on these boards ships in pwe's.

I've received PWE's - card in perfect condition. Positive feedback five stars.

 

[Sweetness]

Leaving less than five stars is bad feeback. If you buy a nice card and receive a nice card, why penalize the seller. I just don't get the logic.

 

[chuckbartowski]

If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

That is down right stupid. Why buy if you intend to leave bad feedback for not being satisfied? Just stupid!

I'm pretty sure he didn't buy the card with the intention of leaving bad feedback. The seller should have sent in a better manner. Had he done so then this wouldn't even be a discussion. And the stars are a matter of opinion, he felt he didn't get what he paid for so he is expressing his opinion by giving the seller 1 star, and rightfully so in my opinion. You have your opinion and he has his.

This type of pretentious sentiment is outrageous. Better? Better how? He received the card in perfect condition. PERIOD. It shouldn't matter how the seller got it to you, hand delivery, carrier pidgeon, who cares - you got the card you paid for for the cost you paid for in perfect condition. If all transactions went like that I'd be a happy to the extent of FIVE STARS. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

It's all fun and games until YOU receive a pwe.

I can only assume that no one on these boards ships in pwe's.

I've received PWE's - card in perfect condition. Positive feedback five stars.

I'm sorry, but this is just not true. The ratings are there for a reason. I don't just automatically put in five stars for everything. I actually think about how long the card takes to get to me, and how much shipping was. The only one I don't put a ton of thought in to is Communication and that's because 99% of deals don't require much. To me if a seller charges more than twice the amount it cost for him to ship he doesn't deserve 5 stars. I also take his stated handling time and add a week to it (for US shipping, two weeks for international shipping), and if I don't get it in that time frame I leave less than 5 stars unless he communicates with me that shipping was delayed.

 

[chuckbartowski]

Leaving less than five stars is bad feeback. If you buy a nice card and receive a nice card, why penalize the seller. I just don't get the logic.

I don't see it as penalizing the seller. I see it as giving my opinion of the seller. I'll tell you what...pm me your eBay ID, and I'll add you to my block bidder and seller list, and we will never have to worry about each other.

 

[Rickzcards]

If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

That is down right stupid. Why buy if you intend to leave bad feedback for not being satisfied? Just stupid!

I'm pretty sure he didn't buy the card with the intention of leaving bad feedback. The seller should have sent in a better manner. Had he done so then this wouldn't even be a discussion. And the stars are a matter of opinion, he felt he didn't get what he paid for so he is expressing his opinion by giving the seller 1 star, and rightfully so in my opinion. You have your opinion and he has his.

This type of pretentious sentiment is outrageous. Better? Better how? He received the card in perfect condition. PERIOD. It shouldn't matter how the seller got it to you, hand delivery, carrier pidgeon, who cares - you got the card you paid for for the cost you paid for in perfect condition. If all transactions went like that I'd be a happy to the extent of FIVE STARS. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

It's all fun and games until YOU receive a pwe.

I can only assume that no one on these boards ships in pwe's.

I've received PWE's - card in perfect condition. Positive feedback five stars.

Suppose you went to the grocery store and they loaded your groceries in wet paper bags. You might make to the car and you might even make it to the kitchen countertop with them without breaking. Would you continue to shop there? After all you did make it home with your groceries. No you wouldn't because by the store putting your groceries in wet bags opened up the possibility that there could potentially be a huge mess on your hands. Why should the store care, they already have your money. I know it's a bad analogy. But a seller should show more concern for their customers and their paid purchases. A PWE shows not only ignorance but carelessness.

 

[Sweetness]

:lol: Not a chance in hell I'd give out my ID's. You really think I want an overly picky complainer having my ebay info.

I can't possibly understand complaining about getting a nice card no matter how it is packaged. I just don't see the point of whining about getting a nice card. Is it realy so hard to understand?

Seriously... you are complaining about a ENVELOPE. I understand it is 100% impossible to please everyone all the time but think about it, you get a nice card but you don't like a sellers choice of envelope. Think about how pety you sound!

 

[Sweetness]

Okay that Grocery aguement is just dumb. Wet bags, groceries... what???? Stay on the subject. Envelope in mail box with nice card inside.

 

[Wes]

Leaving less than five stars is bad feeback. If you buy a nice card and receive a nice card, why penalize the seller. I just don't get the logic.

I don't see it as penalizing the seller. I see it as giving my opinion of the seller. I'll tell you what...pm me your eBay ID, and I'll add you to my block bidder and seller list, and we will never have to worry about each other.

Then you don't understand the way ebay works. Anything less than five stars penalizes the seller by hurting DSR's. When your DSRs are below certain levels you lose powerseller status, when they go lower you can't even sell items in some cases. So YES it penalizes the seller.

 

[Wes]

If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

That is down right stupid. Why buy if you intend to leave bad feedback for not being satisfied? Just stupid!

I'm pretty sure he didn't buy the card with the intention of leaving bad feedback. The seller should have sent in a better manner. Had he done so then this wouldn't even be a discussion. And the stars are a matter of opinion, he felt he didn't get what he paid for so he is expressing his opinion by giving the seller 1 star, and rightfully so in my opinion. You have your opinion and he has his.

This type of pretentious sentiment is outrageous. Better? Better how? He received the card in perfect condition. PERIOD. It shouldn't matter how the seller got it to you, hand delivery, carrier pidgeon, who cares - you got the card you paid for for the cost you paid for in perfect condition. If all transactions went like that I'd be a happy to the extent of FIVE STARS. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

It's all fun and games until YOU receive a pwe.

I can only assume that no one on these boards ships in pwe's.

I've received PWE's - card in perfect condition. Positive feedback five stars.

I'm sorry, but this is just not true. The ratings are there for a reason. I don't just automatically put in five stars for everything. I actually think about how long the card takes to get to me, and how much shipping was. The only one I don't put a ton of thought in to is Communication and that's because 99% of deals don't require much. To me if a seller charges more than twice the amount it cost for him to ship he doesn't deserve 5 stars. I also take his stated handling time and add a week to it (for US shipping, two weeks for international shipping), and if I don't get it in that time frame I leave less than 5 stars unless he communicates with me that shipping was delayed.

I was speaking only to the condition - if they take two months to get me the card their shipping time rating is going down.

 

[chuckbartowski]

Leaving less than five stars is bad feeback. If you buy a nice card and receive a nice card, why penalize the seller. I just don't get the logic.

I don't see it as penalizing the seller. I see it as giving my opinion of the seller. I'll tell you what...pm me your eBay ID, and I'll add you to my block bidder and seller list, and we will never have to worry about each other.

Then you don't understand the way ebay works. Anything less than five stars penalizes the seller by hurting DSR's. When your DSRs are below certain levels you lose powerseller status, when they go lower you can't even sell items in some cases. So YES it penalizes the seller.

I understand that it does penalizes the seller, but that's not the intent...the intent is to give my opinion. It's what the ratings are there for.

To be honest, I don't want someone who charges $3 and ships in a PWE selling on eBay.

 

[chuckbartowski]

[quote="chuckbartowski":2tjwk08m]If you charge $3 for S&H, and ship in a PWE you deserve one star for shipping cost period. There are no if, and or buts in this regard. It is silly to argue otherwise. This is even if it is stated in the auction.

That is down right stupid. Why buy if you intend to leave bad feedback for not being satisfied? Just stupid!

I'm pretty sure he didn't buy the card with the intention of leaving bad feedback. The seller should have sent in a better manner. Had he done so then this wouldn't even be a discussion. And the stars are a matter of opinion, he felt he didn't get what he paid for so he is expressing his opinion by giving the seller 1 star, and rightfully so in my opinion. You have your opinion and he has his.

This type of pretentious sentiment is outrageous. Better? Better how? He received the card in perfect condition. PERIOD. It shouldn't matter how the seller got it to you, hand delivery, carrier pidgeon, who cares - you got the card you paid for for the cost you paid for in perfect condition. If all transactions went like that I'd be a happy to the extent of FIVE STARS. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

It's all fun and games until YOU receive a pwe.

I can only assume that no one on these boards ships in pwe's.

I've received PWE's - card in perfect condition. Positive feedback five stars.

I'm sorry, but this is just not true. The ratings are there for a reason. I don't just automatically put in five stars for everything. I actually think about how long the card takes to get to me, and how much shipping was. The only one I don't put a ton of thought in to is Communication and that's because 99% of deals don't require much. To me if a seller charges more than twice the amount it cost for him to ship he doesn't deserve 5 stars. I also take his stated handling time and add a week to it (for US shipping, two weeks for international shipping), and if I don't get it in that time frame I leave less than 5 stars unless he communicates with me that shipping was delayed.

I was speaking only to the condition - if they take two months to get me the card their shipping time rating is going down.[/quote:2tjwk08m]

But why...you got the card in perfect condition. Why does it matter how long it took to get to you? You see how ridiculous that argument is???