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For what it's worth, this is a grab bag...
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
for what it's worth
no one cares
for what it's worth
no one cares
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
At some point in time, someone who buys a quantity of this stuff and strikes out will notify the proper DA, who will end the grab bag/lottery concept.
Not saying it's the right thing to do at all; but it's out there.
At some point in time, someone who buys a quantity of this stuff and strikes out will notify the proper DA, who will end the grab bag/lottery concept.
Not saying it's the right thing to do at all; but it's out there.
Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
Right, because no one before you thought of it or explored it or had an idea to get some money quick.
Also, no one cares. Those who buy it, good for them. Those who don't, good for them.
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Fan of Card Cop 2.0
Jeff N. said:
Right, because no one before you thought of it or explored it or had an idea to get some money quick.
Also, no one cares. Those who buy it, good for them. Those who don't, good for them.
Signed,
Fan of Card Cop 2.0
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
I don't have any desire to own a baseball card/ball/repackaging company.
But thanks for playing.
phillyfan0417 said:
I don't have any desire to own a baseball card/ball/repackaging company.
But thanks for playing.
bradical
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
I am sorry, but you are completely wrong. There is no stated value the purchaser is guaranteed to receive in each package. This is absolutely no different than buying a pack/box of cards - just a different angle on the same concept.
Any Attorney that took a person serious who walked in their office complaining about this product as a illegal lottery, probably just got done following an ambulance to the scene of an accident.
Jeff N. said:
I am sorry, but you are completely wrong. There is no stated value the purchaser is guaranteed to receive in each package. This is absolutely no different than buying a pack/box of cards - just a different angle on the same concept.
Any Attorney that took a person serious who walked in their office complaining about this product as a illegal lottery, probably just got done following an ambulance to the scene of an accident.
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
Please advise as to where you have your legal education from.
It's a lottery. You're not buying a collectable set, you're buying a chance at the Babe Ruth ball. That's the differentiation between a box of cards - which is not a lottery because of the collectability aspect of the set -- and this lottery ticket in getting the Ruth ball.
bradical said:
Please advise as to where you have your legal education from.
It's a lottery. You're not buying a collectable set, you're buying a chance at the Babe Ruth ball. That's the differentiation between a box of cards - which is not a lottery because of the collectability aspect of the set -- and this lottery ticket in getting the Ruth ball.
Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
I don't have any desire to own a baseball card/ball/repackaging company.
But thanks for playing.[/quote
q4yowp7]
No, I mean as a lawyer, not as you owning the company, now I can thank you for playing.
Jeff N. said:phillyfan0417 said:[quote="Jeff N."
Not saying it's the right thing to do at all; but it's out there.
Right, because no one before you thought of it or explored it or had an idea to get some money quick.
Also, no one cares. Those who buy it, good for them. Those who don't, good for them.
Signed,
Fan of Card Cop 2.0
I don't have any desire to own a baseball card/ball/repackaging company.
But thanks for playing.[/quote
q4yowp7]No, I mean as a lawyer, not as you owning the company, now I can thank you for playing.
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
No, I mean as a lawyer, not as you owning the company, now I can thank you for playing.[/quote:6vyy9lf1]
Do you know what a DA is? There's no money to be made there. Further, I'm not a plaintiff's attorney.
phillyfan0417 said:
No, I mean as a lawyer, not as you owning the company, now I can thank you for playing.[/quote:6vyy9lf1]
Do you know what a DA is? There's no money to be made there. Further, I'm not a plaintiff's attorney.
Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
No, I mean as a lawyer, not as you owning the company, now I can thank you for playing.[/quote:1zxgxhz2]
Do you know what a DA is? There's no money to be made there. Further, I'm not a plaintiff's attorney.[/quote:1zxgxhz2]
Ok, then carry on with your crusade to rid the world of a product you think is a grab bag. Of course you wont do anything other than carry on here about the subject.
Jeff N. said:
No, I mean as a lawyer, not as you owning the company, now I can thank you for playing.[/quote:1zxgxhz2]
Do you know what a DA is? There's no money to be made there. Further, I'm not a plaintiff's attorney.[/quote:1zxgxhz2]
Ok, then carry on with your crusade to rid the world of a product you think is a grab bag. Of course you wont do anything other than carry on here about the subject.
bradical
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
My legal education comes from watching re-runs of Judge Judy.
Explain to me how it is a lottery? What is a lottery to you? To me, a lottery involves the drawing-for or matching-up-of items to determine your prize. This product is simply randomized luck.
Is the Topps Million-Card Giveaway a lottery?
Jeff N. said:
My legal education comes from watching re-runs of Judge Judy.
Explain to me how it is a lottery? What is a lottery to you? To me, a lottery involves the drawing-for or matching-up-of items to determine your prize. This product is simply randomized luck.
Is the Topps Million-Card Giveaway a lottery?
Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
Please advise as to where you have your legal education from.
It's a lottery. You're not buying a collectable set, you're buying a chance at the Babe Ruth ball. That's the differentiation between a box of cards - which is not a lottery because of the collectability aspect of the set -- and this lottery ticket in getting the Ruth ball.[/quote:2c1r2pcm]
Jeff N. said:
Please advise as to where you have your legal education from.
It's a lottery. You're not buying a collectable set, you're buying a chance at the Babe Ruth ball. That's the differentiation between a box of cards - which is not a lottery because of the collectability aspect of the set -- and this lottery ticket in getting the Ruth ball.[/quote:2c1r2pcm]
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
The million card giveaway is a sweepstakes, but it's not enticing you to buy the product. If you were going to throw away the cards and only hunt for the million card giveaway, perhaps. To put it in a scenario that most of the guys here can understand, it's like Monopoly at McDonalds. You're not going to throw away the delectable royale with cheese and greasefries to play Monopoly - it's an added bonus.
A lottery is a game of chance where you pay your money in the hope for a grand prize. In this situation, the Ruth ball. Sure, you may get something lesser (i.e a $5 winning ticket vs. a David Justice ball), but you want the grand prize.
bradical said:
The million card giveaway is a sweepstakes, but it's not enticing you to buy the product. If you were going to throw away the cards and only hunt for the million card giveaway, perhaps. To put it in a scenario that most of the guys here can understand, it's like Monopoly at McDonalds. You're not going to throw away the delectable royale with cheese and greasefries to play Monopoly - it's an added bonus.
A lottery is a game of chance where you pay your money in the hope for a grand prize. In this situation, the Ruth ball. Sure, you may get something lesser (i.e a $5 winning ticket vs. a David Justice ball), but you want the grand prize.
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
Do you know what a DA is? There's no money to be made there. Further, I'm not a plaintiff's attorney.[/quote:2oh7dydr]
Ok, then carry on with your crusade to rid the world of a product you think is a grab bag. Of course you wont do anything other than carry on here about the subject.[/quote:2oh7dydr]
I couldn't care less if Tristar and The-Company-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named put out a "mystery" product a week. I'm not buying them. My only point is, at some point, the roof is going to cave in. But the market should be tapped while the getting is good.
phillyfan0417 said:
Do you know what a DA is? There's no money to be made there. Further, I'm not a plaintiff's attorney.[/quote:2oh7dydr]
Ok, then carry on with your crusade to rid the world of a product you think is a grab bag. Of course you wont do anything other than carry on here about the subject.[/quote:2oh7dydr]
I couldn't care less if Tristar and The-Company-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named put out a "mystery" product a week. I'm not buying them. My only point is, at some point, the roof is going to cave in. But the market should be tapped while the getting is good.
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
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You're right; this product does smell fishy.
cgilmo said:
You're right; this product does smell fishy.
Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
When you buy that ball package, you get a ball. Ruth, Meacham, Hawkins, Cowley, Jeter etc. You always get something.
Youre not buying an empty box that MIGHT have a ball inside so no one will ever spend $60 on this product and walk away with nothing but shrink wrap and an empty box.
A lottery/gambling is when you spend money and when you lose, all you have is a worthless ticket or some street hood chasing you down for his money you owe him to buy the computer youve been using to post your Razor stalkings with.
When you buy that ball package, you get a ball. Ruth, Meacham, Hawkins, Cowley, Jeter etc. You always get something.
Youre not buying an empty box that MIGHT have a ball inside so no one will ever spend $60 on this product and walk away with nothing but shrink wrap and an empty box.
A lottery/gambling is when you spend money and when you lose, all you have is a worthless ticket or some street hood chasing you down for his money you owe him to buy the computer youve been using to post your Razor stalkings with.
bradical
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
Please help me understand how your definition of a lottery could not be applied to busting a box of cards?
Jeff N. said:
Please help me understand how your definition of a lottery could not be applied to busting a box of cards?
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
I read a case on this years ago. The cards are defines as the collectable that you're keeping and buying, and the Million Card giveaway is the bonus. You're buying a collectable set of baseball cards. Not a grab bag.
bradical said:
I read a case on this years ago. The cards are defines as the collectable that you're keeping and buying, and the Million Card giveaway is the bonus. You're buying a collectable set of baseball cards. Not a grab bag.
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Bob Loblaw
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Re: For what it's worth, this is also a grab bag...
This post is about Tristar and has nothing to do with Brian Gray or Razor.
NECpilgrims8 said:
This post is about Tristar and has nothing to do with Brian Gray or Razor.
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