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magicpapa said:
coqxxx4 said:
Just 2 throw in my 2 cents. Not only are the Balck ink (14 through 88, minis the one Beckett has [doesn't fit into my theory]) in the same series they seem to be in order. Here is a list that I made will all the Black ink ones with the one we know (with COA's) and the order of the rest. Hope this make sence to someone besides myself. Seems strange to me that all the one that are known and have COA fall in with all the others.

Hologram numbers with COA, they match up
Hologram numbers with NO COA, don't match

Could just be me or Upper Deck at its Finest

14/89 Hologram #UDC08461
15/89 Hologram #UDC08460
16/89 Hologram #UDC08459
17/89 Hologram #UDC08458 Known Hologram #UDC10376 NO COA
18/89 Hologram #UDC08457
19/89 Hologram #UDC08456 Known Hologram #UDC09346 NO COA
20/89 Hologram #UDC08455
21/89 Hologram #UDC08454
22/89 Hologram #UDC08453
23/89 Hologram #UDC08452
24/89 Hologram #UDC08451
25/89 Hologram #UDC08450
26/89 Hologram #UDC08449
27/89 Hologram #UDC08448 Known Hologram #UDC07467 NO COA
28/89 Hologram #UDC08447
29/89 Hologram #UDC08446
30/89 Hologram #UDC08445
31/89 Hologram #UDC08444
32/89 Hologram #UDC08443
33/89 Hologram #UDC08442
34/89 Hologram #UDC08441
35/89 Hologram #UDC08440

36/89 Hologram #UDC08439
37/89 Hologram #UDC08438
38/89 Hologram #UDC08437
39/89 Hologram #UDC08436 Known Hologram #UDC06182 NO COA
40/89 Hologram #UDC08435
41/89 Hologram #UDC08434
42/89 Hologram #UDC08433
43/89 Hologram #UDC08432
44/89 Hologram #UDC08431
45/89 Hologram #UDC08430 Known Hologram #UDC27645 NO COA
46/89 Hologram #UDC08429
47/89 Hologram #UDC08428
48/89 Hologram #UDC08427
49/89 Hologram #UDC08426
50/89 Hologram #UDC08425
51/89 Hologram #UDC08424
52/89 Hologram #UDC08423
53/89 Hologram #UDC08422
54/89 Hologram #UDC08421
55/89 Hologram #UDC08420
56/89 Hologram #UDC08419
57/89 Hologram #UDC08418
58/89 Hologram #UDC08417
59/89 Hologram #UDC08416
60/89 Hologram #UDC08415
61/89 Hologram #UDC08414
62/89 Hologram #UDC08413
63/89 Hologram #UDC08412
64/89 Hologram #UDC08411
65/89 Hologram #UDC08410
66/89 Hologram #UDC08409
67/89 Hologram #UDC08408
68/89 Hologram #UDC08407 Known Hologram #UDC09280 NO COA
69/89 Hologram #UDC08406
70/89 Hologram #UDC08405
71/89 Hologram #UDC08404
72/89 Hologram #UDC08403
73/89 Hologram #UDC08402
74/89 Hologram #UDC08401
75/89 Hologram #UDC08400
76/89 Hologram #UDC08399
77/89 Hologram #UDC08398
78/89 Hologram #UDC08397
79/89 Hologram #UDC08396
80/89 Hologram #UDC08395
81/89 Hologram #UDC08394 Known Hologram #UDC23770 NO COA
82/89 Hologram #UDC08393
83/89 Hologram #UDC09392
84/89 Hologram #UDC08391
85/89 Hologram #UDC08390
86/89 Hologram #UDC08389
87/89 Hologram #UDC08388
88/89 Hologram #UDC08387 Known Hologram #UDC06396 NO COA
[ebay:16cvtfwh] 250431186255[/ebay:16cvtfwh]
BINGO on the 73/89 guess ;)

[ebay:16cvtfwh]130309239570[/ebay:16cvtfwh]

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Number 19/89..

I see the COA number is different..
 

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Pinbreaker said:
magicpapa said:
coqxxx4 said:
Just 2 throw in my 2 cents. Not only are the Balck ink (14 through 88, minis the one Beckett has [doesn't fit into my theory]) in the same series they seem to be in order. Here is a list that I made will all the Black ink ones with the one we know (with COA's) and the order of the rest. Hope this make sence to someone besides myself. Seems strange to me that all the one that are known and have COA fall in with all the others.

Hologram numbers with COA, they match up
Hologram numbers with NO COA, don't match

Could just be me or Upper Deck at its Finest

14/89 Hologram #UDC08461
15/89 Hologram #UDC08460
16/89 Hologram #UDC08459
17/89 Hologram #UDC08458 Known Hologram #UDC10376 NO COA
18/89 Hologram #UDC08457
19/89 Hologram #UDC08456 Known Hologram #UDC09346 NO COA
20/89 Hologram #UDC08455
21/89 Hologram #UDC08454
22/89 Hologram #UDC08453
23/89 Hologram #UDC08452
24/89 Hologram #UDC08451
25/89 Hologram #UDC08450
26/89 Hologram #UDC08449
27/89 Hologram #UDC08448 Known Hologram #UDC07467 NO COA
28/89 Hologram #UDC08447
29/89 Hologram #UDC08446
30/89 Hologram #UDC08445
31/89 Hologram #UDC08444
32/89 Hologram #UDC08443
33/89 Hologram #UDC08442
34/89 Hologram #UDC08441
35/89 Hologram #UDC08440

36/89 Hologram #UDC08439
37/89 Hologram #UDC08438
38/89 Hologram #UDC08437
39/89 Hologram #UDC08436 Known Hologram #UDC06182 NO COA
40/89 Hologram #UDC08435
41/89 Hologram #UDC08434
42/89 Hologram #UDC08433
43/89 Hologram #UDC08432
44/89 Hologram #UDC08431
45/89 Hologram #UDC08430 Known Hologram #UDC27645 NO COA
46/89 Hologram #UDC08429
47/89 Hologram #UDC08428
48/89 Hologram #UDC08427
49/89 Hologram #UDC08426
50/89 Hologram #UDC08425
51/89 Hologram #UDC08424
52/89 Hologram #UDC08423
53/89 Hologram #UDC08422
54/89 Hologram #UDC08421
55/89 Hologram #UDC08420
56/89 Hologram #UDC08419
57/89 Hologram #UDC08418
58/89 Hologram #UDC08417
59/89 Hologram #UDC08416
60/89 Hologram #UDC08415
61/89 Hologram #UDC08414
62/89 Hologram #UDC08413
63/89 Hologram #UDC08412
64/89 Hologram #UDC08411
65/89 Hologram #UDC08410
66/89 Hologram #UDC08409
67/89 Hologram #UDC08408
68/89 Hologram #UDC08407 Known Hologram #UDC09280 NO COA
69/89 Hologram #UDC08406
70/89 Hologram #UDC08405
71/89 Hologram #UDC08404
72/89 Hologram #UDC08403
73/89 Hologram #UDC08402
74/89 Hologram #UDC08401
75/89 Hologram #UDC08400
76/89 Hologram #UDC08399
77/89 Hologram #UDC08398
78/89 Hologram #UDC08397
79/89 Hologram #UDC08396
80/89 Hologram #UDC08395
81/89 Hologram #UDC08394 Known Hologram #UDC23770 NO COA
82/89 Hologram #UDC08393
83/89 Hologram #UDC09392
84/89 Hologram #UDC08391
85/89 Hologram #UDC08390
86/89 Hologram #UDC08389
87/89 Hologram #UDC08388
88/89 Hologram #UDC08387 Known Hologram #UDC06396 NO COA
[ebay:2ou53x61] 250431186255[/ebay:2ou53x61]
BINGO on the 73/89 guess ;)

[ebay:2ou53x61]130309239570[/ebay:2ou53x61]

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Number 19/89..

I see the COA number is different..
wow now that is REALLY differant, 2nd 19/89, both prolly fakes the other holo #
19/89 #UDC09346 NO COA
unless roy read it wrong?
 

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magicpapa said:
Pinbreaker said:
magicpapa said:
coqxxx4 said:
Just 2 throw in my 2 cents. Not only are the Balck ink (14 through 88, minis the one Beckett has [doesn't fit into my theory]) in the same series they seem to be in order. Here is a list that I made will all the Black ink ones with the one we know (with COA's) and the order of the rest. Hope this make sence to someone besides myself. Seems strange to me that all the one that are known and have COA fall in with all the others.

Hologram numbers with COA, they match up
Hologram numbers with NO COA, don't match

Could just be me or Upper Deck at its Finest

14/89 Hologram #UDC08461
15/89 Hologram #UDC08460
16/89 Hologram #UDC08459
17/89 Hologram #UDC08458 Known Hologram #UDC10376 NO COA
18/89 Hologram #UDC08457
19/89 Hologram #UDC08456 Known Hologram #UDC09346 NO COA
20/89 Hologram #UDC08455
21/89 Hologram #UDC08454
22/89 Hologram #UDC08453
23/89 Hologram #UDC08452
24/89 Hologram #UDC08451
25/89 Hologram #UDC08450
26/89 Hologram #UDC08449
27/89 Hologram #UDC08448 Known Hologram #UDC07467 NO COA
28/89 Hologram #UDC08447
29/89 Hologram #UDC08446
30/89 Hologram #UDC08445
31/89 Hologram #UDC08444
32/89 Hologram #UDC08443
33/89 Hologram #UDC08442
34/89 Hologram #UDC08441
35/89 Hologram #UDC08440

36/89 Hologram #UDC08439
37/89 Hologram #UDC08438
38/89 Hologram #UDC08437
39/89 Hologram #UDC08436 Known Hologram #UDC06182 NO COA
40/89 Hologram #UDC08435
41/89 Hologram #UDC08434
42/89 Hologram #UDC08433
43/89 Hologram #UDC08432
44/89 Hologram #UDC08431
45/89 Hologram #UDC08430 Known Hologram #UDC27645 NO COA
46/89 Hologram #UDC08429
47/89 Hologram #UDC08428
48/89 Hologram #UDC08427
49/89 Hologram #UDC08426
50/89 Hologram #UDC08425
51/89 Hologram #UDC08424
52/89 Hologram #UDC08423
53/89 Hologram #UDC08422
54/89 Hologram #UDC08421
55/89 Hologram #UDC08420
56/89 Hologram #UDC08419
57/89 Hologram #UDC08418
58/89 Hologram #UDC08417
59/89 Hologram #UDC08416
60/89 Hologram #UDC08415
61/89 Hologram #UDC08414
62/89 Hologram #UDC08413
63/89 Hologram #UDC08412
64/89 Hologram #UDC08411
65/89 Hologram #UDC08410
66/89 Hologram #UDC08409
67/89 Hologram #UDC08408
68/89 Hologram #UDC08407 Known Hologram #UDC09280 NO COA
69/89 Hologram #UDC08406
70/89 Hologram #UDC08405
71/89 Hologram #UDC08404
72/89 Hologram #UDC08403
73/89 Hologram #UDC08402
74/89 Hologram #UDC08401
75/89 Hologram #UDC08400
76/89 Hologram #UDC08399
77/89 Hologram #UDC08398
78/89 Hologram #UDC08397
79/89 Hologram #UDC08396
80/89 Hologram #UDC08395
81/89 Hologram #UDC08394 Known Hologram #UDC23770 NO COA
82/89 Hologram #UDC08393
83/89 Hologram #UDC09392
84/89 Hologram #UDC08391
85/89 Hologram #UDC08390
86/89 Hologram #UDC08389
87/89 Hologram #UDC08388
88/89 Hologram #UDC08387 Known Hologram #UDC06396 NO COA
[ebay:s2n21jwk] 250431186255[/ebay:s2n21jwk]
BINGO on the 73/89 guess ;)

[ebay:s2n21jwk]130309239570[/ebay:s2n21jwk]

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Number 19/89..

I see the COA number is different..
wow now that is REALLY differant, 2nd 19/89, both prolly fakes the other holo #
19/89 #UDC09346 NO COA
unless roy read it wrong?

Looks like I read it wrong on the first auction, I changed my list.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-UPPER-DECK-UD- ... tsupported
 

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"FINAL WORD" BECKET / UPPER DECK ON MY 2 CARDS

As you all know I've been in contact over several weeks with a vice president from Beckett who has been helping me with the 2 Griffey Jr 2009 buyback rookie cards I have, with hologram numbers which don't fit into the "list" of ones with COA numbers. I have now heard back from the VP at Beckett who states that the card, authenticated by Beckett, the black #13/89 auto card, is fraudulent. He states that because Beckett authenticated the card, they will refund my money in full to get the card back and destroy it ( I paid $2400 privately for it).

Next he states that after talks with Upper Deck and verification of the hologram # my blue signature card, #81/89 is authentic and matches their (Upper Deck's) hologram number. He states that the upper deck supervisor was firm in stating that that card was authentic.

The Beckettt VP further stated, that because of this incident, Beckett has changed their policy and will no longer authenticate any card, considered a buyback, which originally had a COA, if it does not have the COA. ie. they will return any buyback card to the sender which does not have a COA if a COA orginally came with the card on release. This applies to the 2009 Griffey jr. RC buyback series of 89 cards.

Lastly I would like to thank any forum members who were active in researching these cards which may be fraudulent and keeping a record of the cards to save others from being "taken". I would not stand a chance of getting my $2400 back were it not for the effort of people like Roy in this forum. Also thanks to John who pointed out to me that Roy was keeping a record and started me on my own quest to solve the mystery of the fake cards as it pertained to myself.

Now there is the question of my 2nd card, the one signed in blue ink, and Upper Deck's insistance that the card is real and the number matches the hologram number as it was released on the COA. It is out of sequence with the majority of cards Roy has been tracking with COA's. If it is real, as Upper Deck claims, then thre are some cards, which are not fake and which are not in the sequence.

That may be the case, but I would not touch any card without a COA, period- and that means any buyback sold which came with a COA. Even if its real, you will never be able to sell it, thus it has no real value.

thanks
Steve B
 

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Steve, glad to hear that you are getting your money back on the 13/89. Like you said, don't buy any buybacks without the COA. Your other one will always be in doubt without the COA. At one time UD would reissue a COA for a fee, will they still do that?

Roy
 

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Have you talked to the seller of your fake card Steve? Who exactly is refunding your $2400? Also, I don't know if you posted a pic of your 81/89, would you mind posting a picture of it? Thanks.
 

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LaneyB said:
Have you talked to the seller of your fake card Steve? Who exactly is refunding your $2400? Also, I don't know if you posted a pic of your 81/89, would you mind posting a picture of it? Thanks.

Beckett will refund his money, because thay authenticated it as real. They don't want it in circulation.
 

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Roy Birchler said:
LaneyB said:
Have you talked to the seller of your fake card Steve? Who exactly is refunding your $2400? Also, I don't know if you posted a pic of your 81/89, would you mind posting a picture of it? Thanks.

Beckett will refund his money, because thay authenticated it as real. They don't want it in circulation.
heres pics of all the ones that might be ?able

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v520/ ... 0buybacks/

id still say that this one is not good myself
81-89.jpg

81/89 Hologram #UDC08394 Known Hologram #UDC23770 NO COA
comparing it to this one, numbering, sig, and coa #ing sequence
2009UDRCBuyback.jpg
 

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FYI to all you Griffey guys; check the sig, lots of nice stuff ending tonight that could fill some gaps in PC's!
 

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I bet i am the last one in this thread to get one of these? :D
I don't really want any of the others, but figured i should get teh "G"
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