hellickson super

[brouthercard]

It's interesting to see Wossa bid sooooooo early in the auction! He usually snipes at the end. It could be a strategy-move from him to kinda tell people "I'm interested, stay away...I WILL NOT be outbid"...?

Hmm....

Lol if anything, that would drive up the price for him b/c people know he (+ certain other deranged prospectors) have big…wads

Ok, that's a personal foul here- no mentioning people's big "wads", some people may be a little shy....... :lol: :lol:

 

[Messier2]

It's interesting to see Wossa bid sooooooo early in the auction! He usually snipes at the end. It could be a strategy-move from him to kinda tell people "I'm interested, stay away...I WILL NOT be outbid"...?

Hmm....

Lol if anything, that would drive up the price for him b/c people know he (+ certain other deranged prospectors) have big…wads

I wouldn't doubt that Wossa's high bid is $10K just to make sure he wins it. He can certainly afford it so it's just a drop in the bucket for him...

 

[rainmanesq]

It's interesting to see Wossa bid sooooooo early in the auction! He usually snipes at the end. It could be a strategy-move from him to kinda tell people "I'm interested, stay away...I WILL NOT be outbid"...?

Hmm....

Lol if anything, that would drive up the price for him b/c people know he (+ certain other deranged prospectors) have big…wads

I wouldn't doubt that Wossa's high bid is $10K just to make sure he wins it. He can certainly afford it so it's just a drop in the bucket for him...

Sure, but it just seems odd for him (or anyone) to bid early. Surely he knows how to snipe. Surely he knows people bidstalk him/inflate prices of cards b/c they know he’s loaded. Also, he’s going to have stiff competition from hellickson’s family I suspect as they’ve been buying his cards since ’06.

May the biggest *** win :lol:

 

[kentuckyderby]

wonder if this will be one of those auctions when we see a bid retractcion due to entering wrong amount

 

[THECARDFATHER]

No brainer:

HEYWARD > HELLICKSON

$1550 was a steal for heyward.

 

[matfanofold]

It's interesting to see Wossa bid sooooooo early in the auction! He usually snipes at the end. It could be a strategy-move from him to kinda tell people "I'm interested, stay away...I WILL NOT be outbid"...?

Hmm....

Lol if anything, that would drive up the price for him b/c people know he (+ certain other deranged prospectors) have big…wads

I wouldn't doubt that Wossa's high bid is $10K just to make sure he wins it. He can certainly afford it so it's just a drop in the bucket for him...

And I would not be supprised if it were $875. He indeed does not win every auction he goes after, and even he sets a limit on how much he wants a card. And, unless he told you personally, it's all speculation at this point.

 

[matfanofold]

wonder if this will be one of those auctions when we see a bid retractcion due to entering wrong amount

I highly doubt it, but you never know.

Strange thing to wonder though. Well, enough so to post it anyhow...

 

[matfanofold]

No brainer:

HEYWARD > HELLICKSON

$1550 was a steal for heyward.

Just goes to show when dealing in the realm of 1/1's, anything is possible if you have enough, deep pocketed collectors going after it.

 

[dxanarchy]

Hype Hype Hype Hype - just figured I would add to it :lol:

 

[matfanofold]

Try not to get lost in opinionated, subsitute logic.

There really is no hype surrounding this card save for a handful of individuals that really want the card for their own individual reasons. It will inevidably sell for exactly what it will, and thus equate to nothing more than what it should, will, and did. Meaning, there is no market hype for this card per see, and it's value is being determined as we speak.

I think you are underestimating the power of fcb......."

And I think you overestimate it.

Sure, this is a good gathering of fanatical prospectors/collectors, but it's just a drop in the bucket compared to the collecting/prospecting world. However, there is no doubt that in certing instances, the hype/demand generated here does influience sales, but predominantly items being sold/bought by FCB mambers. I have no doubt if the Hellickson Super was found and listed without ever being posted here, it would have been found by the same interested people and bid on the very same way.

 

[matfanofold]

I say the card hits closer to 1500, but that's just my guess.

If this happens, it will be one of the most overpriced superfractors in Chrome history.......

Again, how can that be?

You CAN NOT compare supers or any 1/1's with other players or other sales, because although player A may have 500,000 collectors, but only a small handful can and will go after the 1/1 super. And player B may only have 50 collectors but has a handful of deep pocketed fanatic collectors as well. With ALL 1/1 supers, sales directly equates to current value, reguardless the context. Unless the next time it appears for sale, then it begins again. So, what have we learned here? When it comes to Supers, it does not matter how popular a player is, or how much other cards sell for, or how many people collect him. What matters is how many deep pocketed collectors want it, and here with the Hellickson it proves this point.

 

[pujolsjunkie]

I bid like 650 on it just to get the card up because I knew I wouldn't win. Probably other people are doing it for the same reason. lol

It isn't shilling, think of it as "friendly fire" for a fellow FCBer. :lol:

 

[Ian Stewart]

I bid like 650 on it just to get the card up because I knew I wouldn't win. Probably other people are doing it for the same reason. lol

It isn't shilling, think of it as "friendly fire" for a fellow FCBer. :lol:

Would you have paid if you won?

 

[pujolsjunkie]

I bid like 650 on it just to get the card up because I knew I wouldn't win. Probably other people are doing it for the same reason. lol

It isn't shilling, think of it as "friendly fire" for a fellow FCBer. :lol:

Would you have paid if you won?

Without a doubt. I'd have no problem owning that card, but I wouldn't spend four digits on it.

 

[bballcardkid]

I say the card hits closer to 1500, but that's just my guess.

If this happens, it will be one of the most overpriced superfractors in Chrome history.......

Again, how can that be?

You CAN NOT compare supers or any 1/1's with other players or other sales, because although player A may have 500,000 collectors, but only a small handful can and will go after the 1/1 super. And player B may only have 50 collectors but has a handful of deep pocketed fanatic collectors as well. With ALL 1/1 supers, sales directly equates to current value, reguardless the context. Unless the next time it appears for sale, then it begins again. So, what have we learned here? When it comes to Supers, it does not matter how popular a player is, or how much other cards sell for, or how many people collect him. What matters is how many deep pocketed collectors want it, and here with the Hellickson it proves this point.

Your analyzing this thing way too hard. Put simply, this card should not even be in the discussion with a Jason Heyward Super, period. If for some reason the card does sale close to a Jason Heyward due to a handful of bidders, the card is still overpriced.

 

[matfanofold]

I say the card hits closer to 1500, but that's just my guess.

If this happens, it will be one of the most overpriced superfractors in Chrome history.......

Again, how can that be?

You CAN NOT compare supers or any 1/1's with other players or other sales, because although player A may have 500,000 collectors, but only a small handful can and will go after the 1/1 super. And player B may only have 50 collectors but has a handful of deep pocketed fanatic collectors as well. With ALL 1/1 supers, sales directly equates to current value, reguardless the context. Unless the next time it appears for sale, then it begins again. So, what have we learned here? When it comes to Supers, it does not matter how popular a player is, or how much other cards sell for, or how many people collect him. What matters is how many deep pocketed collectors want it, and here with the Hellickson it proves this point.

Your analyzing this thing way too hard. Put simply, this card should not even be in the discussion with a Jason Heyward Super, period. If for some reason the card does sale close to a Jason Heyward due to a handful of bidders, the card is still overpriced.

Are you serious? I'm not analyzing it at all, infact I am boiling it down to it's basic components. Saying it's selling for too much or it's way over hyped is paramount to analyzation, not pointing out the truth.

 

[dxanarchy]

I say the card hits closer to 1500, but that's just my guess.

If this happens, it will be one of the most overpriced superfractors in Chrome history.......

Again, how can that be?

You CAN NOT compare supers or any 1/1's with other players or other sales, because although player A may have 500,000 collectors, but only a small handful can and will go after the 1/1 super. And player B may only have 50 collectors but has a handful of deep pocketed fanatic collectors as well. With ALL 1/1 supers, sales directly equates to current value, reguardless the context. Unless the next time it appears for sale, then it begins again. So, what have we learned here? When it comes to Supers, it does not matter how popular a player is, or how much other cards sell for, or how many people collect him. What matters is how many deep pocketed collectors want it, and here with the Hellickson it proves this point.

Your analyzing this thing way too hard. Put simply, this card should not even be in the discussion with a Jason Heyward Super, period. If for some reason the card does sale close to a Jason Heyward due to a handful of bidders, the card is still overpriced.

I think he is spot on. I think you are not looking at it the right way. You are looking at it as a prospector not a collector. If his family and the AD from his high school were the only people bidding on it and it got 2K it is not overpriced at all. It is a 1/1 rookie of someone the bidders may have a personal relationship with. I see nothing overpriced about that at all. I think the prices that Joba gold refs were getting early on was overpriced and ridiculous....I think this is refreshing to see

 

[bmoore997]

Your analyzing this thing way too hard. Put simply, this card should not even be in the discussion with a Jason Heyward Super, period. If for some reason the card does sale close to a Jason Heyward due to a handful of bidders, the card is still overpriced.

Does that make the Hellickson overpriced or the Heyward underpriced? The seller of the Heyward super left alot of money on the table by doing a BIN/BO and accepting an offer that was widely known to not even be the highest. Kudos to the owner of the Helly super for having the guts to let the market dictate fair value.

 

[Topnotchsy]

To be fair Heyward has tons of cards including a BC Auto (albeit 2nd year) while Hellickson has none.

It's tough to compare Supers because with 1/1's all it takes is one or two wealthy collectors and the price could jump an extra thousand. For many it's the undisputed greatest card a player will ever have.

I was surprised at how low the Heyward went based on how hot he is, but I don't think that is a useful gauge for pricing the Hellickson (though I do think $1500 is higher than most prospects of his pedigree would get today.)

Best of luck to the seller, I think with all the hype the auction format will bring the highest price. (Usually with cards of this caliber I find BIN/BO has a lot of advantages, but with the hype it should get all the attention it needs to do really well.)

 

[ballerskrip]

Your analyzing this thing way too hard. Put simply, this card should not even be in the discussion with a Jason Heyward Super, period. If for some reason the card does sale close to a Jason Heyward due to a handful of bidders, the card is still overpriced.

Does that make the Hellickson overpriced or the Heyward underpriced? The seller of the Heyward super left alot of money on the table by doing a BIN/BO and accepting an offer that was widely known to not even be the highest. Kudos to the owner of the Helly super for having the guts to let the market dictate fair value.

The only thing I will say about this....Heyward has elite, Sterling, chrome X2, etc.

Hellickson has one card, and it is from 4 years. There is ONLY 1 MONSTER card for Hellickson, this is it. Just something to think about.

You don't need to explain to me how great Heyward is, I get it. But I can guarantee that if Heyward only had 2007 BCDP and not other cards, that would have been a $5000-$7500. So we aren't exactly comparing apples to apples here.

skrip