Here is a buyer you will definitely want to block...

[markakis8]

Have a Andrew Cashner refractor auto /500 from Topps Chrome up for $9.99 or BO with free shipping. Nothing big.

Guy offers me $5 before Cashner was ever called up by the Padres. I countered $8.50 and he declined. Several weeks later, Cashner is called up...has his big game (almost no-no) and the guy offers me $6. I feel as if someone could hit the BIN at full price at some point soon, so I counter $8.79 b/c I would still be happy with that price. This is several weeks later remind you.

He accepts. And pays immediately. Then sends this message right after:

As a courtesy to seller, I am letting you know in advance that I plan to leave neutral or negative feedback. I am disappointed that you raised your offer price and do not think it was fair negotiating. I initially offered $5 which is a fair price based on what they are selling for on checkoutmycards. You countered with $8.50 which I declined. I then raised my offer to $7...again, more than fair and in good faith. You then countered with $8.79. I thought that was poor dealing and tried to highlight that by then lowering my offer.

You have every right to decline an offer lower than your asking price. I am not offended if someone doesnt accept an offer. However, by raising your counter-offer, I thought it was in bad taste.

As long as the card arrives in reasonable time and reasonable shape, I will not leave negative feedback (I do not think it rises to that). However, I do intend to leave neutral feedback to provide other members w/ my honest opinion of transaction. Thank you.

- ilta096

I won't post how I responded but to sum it up, I refunded him, blocked him and will be saving the email as feedback extortion if he decides to leave me negative feedback. I'd advise you block this ****** as well.

 

[Pine Tar]

Wow that is fracking Brilliant on that douches part

 

[shayscards79]

Wow, what a tool. Some people should just stay off of the internet.

 

[markakis8]

To paraphrase my response - I told him I was saving his email to prove feedback extortion and I was alerting other ebay sellers of his ways. I refunded him in full. His three responses with 30 minutes:

That is not feedback extortion. I have no idea how cashner pitched, I just needed the card to complete my set. I was giving you the courtesy of letting you know in advance of possible negative/neutral feedback. That is not aggressive. It is following protocol as many buyers simply leave negative or neutral without alerting seller first. eBay requests that buyer try to contact the seller first.

Your reaction is way overboard. I totally agree that you can sell the card for whatever price you want. Thats why I said I didnt think it rose to level of negative feedback and would only leave it if there was an extended delay shipping card or if it was damaged. Neutral feedback is not negative.

I was simply stating my feelings and intentions and am well within ebay guidelines. Your response to try to threaten and bully me is uncalled for. I did not contact other members and am disappointed if that is the route you want to go.

#2:

By the way, the purpose of alerting you ahead of time was to give you a chance to respond before I went right to leaving neutral or negative feedback. I honestly had no idea that Cashner pitched well and that was the reason you raised your counteroffer. If you told me that, I would've understood that and would have left positive feedback.

But if you want to go and get other members involved and make a whole big thing out of this, thats up to you

#3:

I see payment refunded. I will not leave any feedback for a cancelled transaction, unless you intimidate me or try to get other members to intimidate or harass me. If that occurs, then I will leave negative feedback and I will be within my rights to do so. That is not extortion or a threat. That is courtesy of advising you of my intentions if I encounter any further problems. If I do, then given the emails back and forth, I believe eBay will take issue with your account, not mine. But I will leave that to them to decide the appropriate course.

As far as I am concerned, the matter is closed and I hope that it does not escalate. That decision is yours though. Good day.

 

[notjomommasclint]

I bet he kills kittens and blames the kitten.

 

[predatorkj]

I bet he kills kittens and blames the kitten.

In the microwave no doubt....

 

[reljac]

My favorite lines from him:

I will not leave any feedback for a cancelled transaction, unless you intimidate me or try to get other members to intimidate or harass me. If that occurs, then I will leave negative feedback and I will be within my rights to do so. That is not extortion or a threat.

 

[homerun28aa]

Yeah I absolutely blocked this ******...well done canceling the transaction.

 

[homerun28aa]

Regularly I would love to contact this guy and give him a piece of my mind but I don't want him to leave you a neg for other members getting involved lol

 

[hive17]

Seems he backed waaaay down after you canceled and moved on. Anyone with some sack (albeit, crazy sack), would have tried to go ahead with the negbomb. He must have felt that he was indeed trying to extort or threaten you on some level and the ***'d out.

 

[hofmichael]

From reading his responses it seems like you may have went a little overboard in your response to him.He doesn't seem like a ****** at all though.His Ebay views may be a little off but other than that he doesn't seem to bad.At least he let you know what he was going to do instead of surprising you.

 

[MansGame]

In the words of Jim Rome "BLOCKED"

 

[markakis8]

From reading his responses it seems like you may have went a little overboard in your response to him.He doesn't seem like a ****** at all though.His Ebay views may be a little off but other than that he doesn't seem to bad.At least he let you know what he was going to do instead of surprising you.

I don't feel I went overboard. I guess I can I post my response. This was the only time I responded to him. I did not entertain the other three messages:

I will be refunding your money and showing this email to ebay as feedback extortion if you leave me negative feedback and leave it to them as the proper way to handle your account - which they probably will suspend if you do so.

You do realize, as a seller, I can sell a card for whatever I want to, at any time. It doesn't matter what you offered on the card a month ago, let alone yesterday. The reason I raised my counteroffer from the last time you made an offer was because Cashner actually pitched an outstanding game in the majors. I'm sure you kwno that already, otherwise you would not have made such a big stink.

I would suggest you think twice about your aggressive action in the future with other sellers as it will only bite you in the butt.

I have also warned a large community of ebay sellers about your actions and I'm sure they will block you from purchasing from them as I have done so. Good day.

 

[D-Lite]

............. Good day.

Seems like he escalated it.

I said GOOD DAY!

 

[Jastermereel]

Not that the guy was right, but this really isn't feedback extortion. He wasn't threatening you in any way, he was telling you what he planned to do in advance. He said he didn't like how the transaction went and he'd be leaving negative or neutral. Not nice, but not extortion.

 

[nosterbor]

Thats just bad on the buyers part. I do not sell much...he has been blocked.

 

[MansGame]

To those essentially backing the buyer, my response would be by definition this is technically not "extortion" but it's ridiculous. He did just pre-warn the seller with what he was going to do but since when can you leave someone neutral or negative feedback for simply not being happy with the price you received on a card?! If that were the case I'd be leaving neutral or negative all the time because although I pay a certain price for all Belle cards, I might want a cheaper price LOL... Sounds ridiculous doesn't it?

Again, this guy is BLOCKED... HAPPY 4th EVERYONE!

 

[markakis8]

Not that the guy was right, but this really isn't feedback extortion. He wasn't threatening you in any way, he was telling you what he planned to do in advance. He said he didn't like how the transaction went and he'd be leaving negative or neutral. Not nice, but not extortion.

I can see your point. Either way, I don't think ebay would have let him get away with it simply for the reason he was going to leave that feedback. You can't leave that type of feedback for a decision you made as a buyer.

 

[BunchOBull]

His initial contact was worded so that it wouldn't constitute feedback extortion; however, he knew he was walking the line and even fessed up to it with this gem:

"By the way, the purpose of alerting you ahead of time was to give you a chance to respond before I went right to leaving neutral or negative feedback."

He was hoping you'd back down and give it to him for $5 in fear of feedback retaliation.

You did the right thing though because eBay would have likely not sided with you, despite the buyer being completely inane.

 

[hive17]

There is no defending the buyer in this situation. The second you talk about negative or neutral feedback before the transaction is even complete, you're extorting feedback; or, more acurately, coercing the seller into something he didn't want to do. The simple mention of a negative, knowing that that is all the seller has to fear, is an implied threat.

He knew it, the seller knew it, and we all know it.