Jesus Montero traded for Pineda

[Brett Keith]

What are your guys' ideas/opinions to this very hypothetical question for the Montero holders...if the Mariners go to AND win the World Series how will his prices be effected regardless if it was "specifically" him that took them there. With the great pitching I think the Mariners have a decent chance of doing things they have not ever done before in a very long time...just curious

I'd become a Montero holder if he took the M's to the World Series, as in I would hug him for an uncomfortably long time.

 

[metallicalex777]

What are your guys' ideas/opinions to this very hypothetical question for the Montero holders...if the Mariners go to AND win the World Series how will his prices be effected regardless if it was "specifically" him that took them there. With the great pitching I think the Mariners have a decent chance of doing things they have not ever done before in a very long time...just curious

I'd become a Montero holder if he took the M's to the World Series, as in I would hug him for an uncomfortably long time.

I would hug him making others uncomfortable for a very long time :lol:

 

[MallCopKJ]

Pineda was 3-8 w/ 4.74 ERA final 17 starts

 

[chompsmcgee]

Monstero!

 

[jdacunha]

Analysis And Background Of The Montero/Pineda Deal
By Mark Polishuk [January 13, 2012 at 10:32pm CST]
It's not every day that two of baseball's best young stars are swapped for each other, but the Mariners and Yankees pulled off just such a deal today, as Jesus Montero and Hector Noesi went to Seattle in exchange for Michael Pineda and Jose Campos. Here is some of the early reaction to this stunning trade, plus some information on how the deal came together...

"The risk for both clubs is low. The reward for both clubs is outstanding. This could be a transformational deal that will have fans of both clubs buzzing about for a long time," writes MLB.com's Bernie Pleskoff.
Replacing pitching via minor leaguers or the free agent market is far easier than attracting top-caliber hitters in Seattle, notes MLB.com's Greg Johns.
Mike Salk of ESPN 710 Radio in Seattle outlines the reasons why he "loves" the deal for the Mariners. Also from Salk (on Twitter), he hears from "a non-M's baseball guy" who believes Noesi is a better long-term option than Pineda.
The trade makes the Yankees the favorites in the AL East, writes Scott Miller of CBSSports.com. Miller talks to two scouts who rave about the Yankees' sudden surplus of young pitching that also includes Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos.
Dave Cameron of the U.S.S. Mariner blog sees Montero as developing into a Carlos Lee-type of hitter who is productive but not quite a superstar. Cameron thinks the deal will look better for the Mariners if they were to sign a free agent starter like Roy Oswalt or Edwin Jackson, since then the team would have Montero's bat plus a pitcher that could match Pineda's production.
Yankees GM Brian Cashman feels he took a "huge risk" with the trade, reports The Record's Bob Klapisch (via Twitter). "I gave up a ton (for Pineda)," Cashman said. "To me, Montero is Mike Piazza. He's Miguel Cabrera."
"Some execs from other AL East teams believe Yankees just made an incredible trade," tweets ESPN's Buster Olney.
The two teams were "talking for weeks" about the deal, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post (Twitter link). Each side told the other that they had limited funds to address their needs.
The Yankees initially tried to acquire Felix Hernandez from the Mariners, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (via Twitter) and were willing to offer a package that included Montero, Betances, Banuelos and more.

 

[glewis22]

swap pineda and nova and thats the rotation with arguably the best bullpen in baseball

My 2012 Yankees Rotation....

Sabathia
Nova
Pineda
Kuroda
Hughes/Burnett/Garcia

I haven't seen this much rotation depth since the 2009 Red Sox! ( :lol: )

DH is still in the air.

I'll still take the pitcher who has proven he can do it in the AL East and in Yankee Stadium.

Yeah, and the rest of the world with a clue will be over here valuing Pineda higher than Nova.

 

[Crewfan82]

Pineda was 3-8 w/ 4.74 ERA final 17 starts

He was a rookie last year. I am sure he began to wear down towards the end of the year. Not many rookies come to the bigs and dominate like he did last year. Wait until the kid gets his feet wet.

 

[vwnut13]

Looking at Pineda's stat.s I'm just hoping that after he had a two run defecit he just gave up.

 

[MallCopKJ]

Pineda was 3-8 w/ 4.74 ERA final 17 starts

He was a rookie last year. I am sure he began to wear down towards the end of the year. Not many rookies come to the bigs and dominate like he did last year. Wait until the kid gets his feet wet.

Well the competition sure isnt going to get easier for him.

 

[Canocollector#1]

Sad to see Montero go, but like it. Pineda is a stud and exactly what the we needed. CC/Pineda/Nova/Kuroda is a VERY good top 4 and much better than it was this morning.

 

[vwnut13]

These numbers worry me....


9 Wins, 57.2 IP, 7 ER, 1.09 ERA

10 Losses, 61 IP, 40 ER, 5.90 ERA

9 No Decissions, 52.1 IP, 24 ER, 4.13 ERA


Those make me wonder.

 

[SeattleSports]

As an M's fan... I'm excited for a core group of Ackley, Montero and Smoak to go along with Felix, Hultzen, Taijuan and Paxton.

Painful to give up Campos, but I think it's a great move for the M's. Giving up a strength for a HUGE weakness.

 

[ballerskrip]

I hate this trade. Montero is going to be a monster and Noesi is a guaranteed starter. Campos will most likely be a one hit wonder prospect even though I have a little faith in him and Pineda is okay. The Yankees could have traded two lower level prospects for Pineda straight up.

Are you clueless? Pineda is an absolute MONSTER. You will be eating your words. I am willing to bet tha you have never even watched Pineda pitch, have you? You will soon be singing this kids praises because he will be a top 5 starter in the AL within a couple years.

Only a Yankee fan would say they could have got pineda for a couple low level prospects....

 

[JustinVerlander35]

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Gotta love the youth of today

 

[G $MONEY$]

No one should be that surprised with Montero leaving the Yankees. It has been rumored and talked about for well over a year now.

 

[SydBarrett]

So, I just got back from the movie contraband and was thinking the entire time. Imagine how good Seattle would be if they somehow figure out how to get Fielder. I don't care if Anaheim signed Wilson and Pujols, I really think Seattle could win the AL west.

 

[Bosox3]

I hate this trade. Montero is going to be a monster and Noesi is a guaranteed starter. Campos will most likely be a one hit wonder prospect even though I have a little faith in him and Pineda is okay. The Yankees could have traded two lower level prospects for Pineda straight up.

Are you clueless? Pineda is an absolute MONSTER. You will be eating your words. I am willing to bet tha you have never even watched Pineda pitch, have you? You will soon be singing this kids praises because he will be a top 5 starter in the AL within a couple years.

top 5? I doubt that....but then again, you are trying to push your cards you have listed. Makes it sound good.
Why do you care so much what he thinks?...he doesnt like the deal..so be it.

 

[yanksfan15]

After the haul the Reds and Nationals gave up to get Latos and Gonzalez, with that haul being a few top prospects, it looks as if the Yankees made a great deal for Pineda and a solid arm in Campos as well.

 

[saferseas]

Look this deal was clearly done to give Danny Hultzen the opportunity to be the ACE coming out of Spring Training

Only a prospector would forget about Felix Hernandez.

Not a prospector but he will flame out in a year or two anyways with arm injury and even if he doesnt Hultzen is a superior talent that will knock him off #1

That's some good stuff you're smoking.

Mark it down he will miss at least 3-4 months with an arm injury by the end of the 2014 season. If he does not I will donate $500 to a Charity of Cgilmo's choice

It's funny how your prediction went from Felix "flaming out", to him missing part of a season due to injury. Wow. A pitcher who, by 2014, will have pitched nearly 10 years in the league...having an injury. REALLY going out on a limb there Nostradamus. :?

 

[ljw29]

[quote="ljw29":2pgj9do2]Look this deal was clearly done to give Danny Hultzen the opportunity to be the ACE coming out of Spring Training

Only a prospector would forget about Felix Hernandez.

Not a prospector but he will flame out in a year or two anyways with arm injury and even if he doesnt Hultzen is a superior talent that will knock him off #1

That's some good stuff you're smoking.

Mark it down he will miss at least 3-4 months with an arm injury by the end of the 2014 season. If he does not I will donate $500 to a Charity of Cgilmo's choice

It's funny how your prediction went from Felix "flaming out", to him missing part of a season due to injury. Wow. A pitcher who, by 2014, will have pitched nearly 10 years in the league...having an injury. REALLY going out on a limb there Nostradamus. :?[/quote:2pgj9do2]

That will be the beginning of his flaming out if has not already happened before then.