LA Angels and Pujols Fans

[SINFULONE]

As of today he's only on pace to hit .269/25/98.<yawn>

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4574/albert-pujols

 

[Calripkenjrcollector]

Okay, I'll admit I got to halfway the third page and I only have ONE question for all those that said Albert Pojuls should not not have left the Cardinals for more money. "ONLY" $34,000,000.00 in ten years as some of you mentioned. Really? All of you (NOW) Pojuls haters would say, "stick that 34M up where the sun don't shine" if it was offered to you? Really? That's ONLY 3.4 million a year extra for the next ten years. More money than most of us on here that DO NOT own a business make. Heck, 34M is more money than most of us on here will make in a lifetime, But I'm sure you're all happy to stay put where you are because you just want to be happy. Yeah, sure....

 

[OscarOne]

Yes, yes I would. And I think many normal people would.

 

[Lancemountain]

I would have stayed.

One thing you are missing @calripkenjuniorcollector is that Pujols had already clocked over 100m. And signed for the same. We are talking 200+ million lifetime plus endorsements, interest, investments and charging young children 200$ for an auto.

Only so much money a man needs. You can't buy being a legend, you have to earn it; and if he had stayed in St. Louis he would have been just that: the best athlete that city ever had. Streets named after him, Pujols Day, yearly parades, local secondary education institutions teaching classes on the art of The Pujols.

Now he is that guy that they had and was really awesome then after making a several generational amount of wealth, left for a measly (yes I said measly) 34 million dollars.

34 million over ten years is nothing to a guy like Pujols so don't bother comparing the decision to the rest of us.

 

[Calripkenjrcollector]

Lancemountain - Ok he made 100M or 200M and he should stop there? Another team offered 53M more and he should turn it down for the fans? The City? The State? Country? None of the above will give a hoot if something happens to you or your family. You better rake it in while it's available. IT'S BASEBALL, a sport / business. Nothing more.
- 34M for ten years or 3.4m a year for a guy like Pojuls is nothing? Let me break it down a little.
- Pojuls is obviously not an american, meaning that they / he is obligated to "share the wealth" with family
- Choice is stay as Cardinals and make millions of people he don't happy or make family members at home country happy
- He / they are professional baseball players, meaning it doesn't matter what State / Country they end up, they can play
The way I see it, it's like having two uncles (baseball teams) that you both love. One lives in St Louis, the other in LA. They are both in the same business. One will pay you 200M the other 253M over ten years. You're obviously saying you'll pick 200M because of your personal reasons (You don't need the money, you're happy where you are and all) and that's fine and dandy because the rest of your family don't need the money either. After all, it's ONLY 34M (or between 34M and 53M). Nothing but a chunk of change. Please excuse me for including you with "the rest of us statement" I made. Maybe you personally know people that can save 34M over their lifetime. Sure a man only needs so much money and I agree BUT, personally, I would prefer to give what I feel I don't need to people close to me that to people I don't know. Let's face it, just because we as fans consider ourselves "die hard" of the athlete does not he have to consider you anybody special. Die hard fan is nothing more than a nuisance to a celebrity. I guarantee you someone like that can not even go piss in a public restroom without someone wanting to shake hand before washing it or yap about how big of a fan he / she is. Heavens forbid if he refuse to shake that dirty hand. Mr Die Hard all of a sudden calls Mr Celebrity all kinds of names and post here how big of an A-hole that guy is. Let's not forget that by the time Mr Celebrity made it to the restroom a couple hundred other ones already tried from the parking lot and while he's trying to eat and enjoy the time with wife and kids.
- Being a legend don't feed your family. 34M surely will.
- Not everyone cares about having a street named after them. You don't expect these athletes to stay in the same city after they retire from the game, do you? I he live in (after he retires) in (let's say) LA after he retires, do you think he or his family cares if there's a street in St Louis named after him?
- Yearly parades is possible..... Just because, I suppose.

- 34M would give me about 227,000 1982 Topps Traded Ripken cards. That's enough reason for me to give y'all (NOW Pujols haters) two middle fingers while packing and move to LA.

 

[Calripkenjrcollector]

Other than you hate making more money for doing the same thing, WHY? I really don't understand.

Yes, yes I would. And I think many normal people would.

 

[Lancemountain]

He has set himself up and several generations past him financially and you are over valuing what 34 millions dollars is because you don't have it. Stop looking at what can be done with the money as he has so much of it, it doesn't even matter.

I don't either by the way

It's nothing to a guy that has already made what some county's GDP and the only thing he has to show for another 34 million is that he is just another character-less XXXXX.


HURR I have 334 million dollars instead of 300 million dollars HURRR

 

[Calripkenjrcollector]

Well, thank you for rubbing in the fact that I don't have 34M, LOL. I'm one of those that always think "WHAT IF?"
Sure he's got plenty of money now (and hopefully he is investing wisely), but who knows for how long. We all can name an athlete or two who had millions one day and lost all before you can ask what happened. If I understood what I was reading back then, he did not ask for that much money. The Angels offered, he accepted. I just don't know how I can blame the man for accepting. That's all.

 

[scotty216brs]

I would have stayed.

One thing you are missing @calripkenjuniorcollector is that Pujols had already clocked over 100m. And signed for the same. We are talking 200+ million lifetime plus endorsements, interest, investments and charging young children 200$ for an auto.

Only so much money a man needs. You can't buy being a legend, you have to earn it; and if he had stayed in St. Louis he would have been just that: the best athlete that city ever had. Streets named after him, Pujols Day, yearly parades, local secondary education institutions teaching classes on the art of The Pujols.

Now he is that guy that they had and was really awesome then after making a several generational amount of wealth, left for a measly (yes I said measly) 34 million dollars.

34 million over ten years is nothing to a guy like Pujols so don't bother comparing the decision to the rest of us.

Maybe he wanted a change? Maybe he felt let down that the Cardinals didn't offer what LAA did? Maybe he didn't get along with some players/management in St. Louis? Who really knows...

 

[studioclint]

If it is only 34 million why didn't the Cardinals match the offer?

 

[Hullfan]

If it is only 34 million why didn't the Cardinals match the offer?

Because the Cardinals didn't want to pay him to sit on the bench in 5 years , unlike LA who can then use him to DH.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Lancemountain - Ok he made 100M or 200M and he should stop there? Another team offered 53M more and he should turn it down for the fans? The City? The State? Country? None of the above will give a hoot if something happens to you or your family. You better rake it in while it's available. IT'S BASEBALL, a sport / business. Nothing more.
- 34M for ten years or 3.4m a year for a guy like Pojuls is nothing? Let me break it down a little.
- Pojuls is obviously not an american, meaning that they / he is obligated to "share the wealth" with family
- Choice is stay as Cardinals and make millions of people he don't happy or make family members at home country happy
- He / they are professional baseball players, meaning it doesn't matter what State / Country they end up, they can play
The way I see it, it's like having two uncles (baseball teams) that you both love. One lives in St Louis, the other in LA. They are both in the same business. One will pay you 200M the other 253M over ten years. You're obviously saying you'll pick 200M because of your personal reasons (You don't need the money, you're happy where you are and all) and that's fine and dandy because the rest of your family don't need the money either. After all, it's ONLY 34M (or between 34M and 53M). Nothing but a chunk of change. Please excuse me for including you with "the rest of us statement" I made. Maybe you personally know people that can save 34M over their lifetime. Sure a man only needs so much money and I agree BUT, personally, I would prefer to give what I feel I don't need to people close to me that to people I don't know. Let's face it, just because we as fans consider ourselves "die hard" of the athlete does not he have to consider you anybody special. Die hard fan is nothing more than a nuisance to a celebrity. I guarantee you someone like that can not even go piss in a public restroom without someone wanting to shake hand before washing it or yap about how big of a fan he / she is. Heavens forbid if he refuse to shake that dirty hand. Mr Die Hard all of a sudden calls Mr Celebrity all kinds of names and post here how big of an A-hole that guy is. Let's not forget that by the time Mr Celebrity made it to the restroom a couple hundred other ones already tried from the parking lot and while he's trying to eat and enjoy the time with wife and kids.
- Being a legend don't feed your family. 34M surely will.
- Not everyone cares about having a street named after them. You don't expect these athletes to stay in the same city after they retire from the game, do you? I he live in (after he retires) in (let's say) LA after he retires, do you think he or his family cares if there's a street in St Louis named after him?
- Yearly parades is possible..... Just because, I suppose.

- 34M would give me about 227,000 1982 Topps Traded Ripken cards. That's enough reason for me to give y'all (NOW Pujols haters) two middle fingers while packing and move to LA.

My favorite line in this entire thread.

Been here since 16 or so, American citizen...but you know those people...those foreigners, always sending their money back to Mexico.

And let's not forget...the only reason was supposedly because God told them (Albert and Deidre) to move to take the California job. Or was it about money, that crazy wife of his had me confused when she spoke out about it all. Oh well, God has told people to kill others on countless occasions, so let's be happy he was in a "friendly" mood and to move to California and take the extra money.

 

[Calripkenjrcollector]

My favorite line in this entire thread.

Been here since 16 or so, American citizen...but you know those people...those foreigners, always sending their money back to Mexico.

And let's not forget...the only reason was supposedly because God told them (Albert and Deidre) to move to take the California job. Or was it about money, that crazy wife of his had me confused when she spoke out about it all. Oh well, God has told people to kill others on countless occasions, so let's be happy he was in a "friendly" mood and to move to California and take the extra money.

Don't get me wrong, Hockeyplayer. I'm in the same boat you are. Been here since 1978 and also an american citizen. Being a Filipino, we are (by nature / culture) or maybe the way we were brought up, we do send money to our family. Wether they need it or not (100% of the time, they do), but we do. Partly because it makes me feel good that I can help and at the same time, remind them that I won't forget them and not to worry about me. The help I can send the more they feel that I'm doing okay and nothing to worry about. I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic but we "foreigners" just like most people here in the United States work hard for our money and just like everyone else, we have the option of doing what we want with that money.

I won't even get into why we're bringing up the man's wife into this but that too is an option.

 

[Casebusters]

But its ok when a team lets their star player, who has been there for their whole career, go when they are no longer playing like they used to!

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Don't get me wrong, Hockeyplayer. I'm in the same boat you are. Been here since 1978 and also an american citizen. Being a Filipino, we are (by nature / culture) or maybe the way we were brought up, we do send money to our family. Wether they need it or not (100% of the time, they do), but we do. Partly because it makes me feel good that I can help and at the same time, remind them that I won't forget them and not to worry about me. The help I can send the more they feel that I'm doing okay and nothing to worry about. I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic but we "foreigners" just like most people here in the United States work hard for our money and just like everyone else, we have the option of doing what we want with that money.

I won't even get into why we're bringing up the man's wife into this but that too is an option.

Do you know anything about Pujols? How he came over here, who brought him over here, and anything about his family in the Dominican Republic?

I ask because I haven't the slightest concept of why you'd possibly bring up however much money, if any, that he sends to what remains of his family in the Dominican. I could care less about how he spends his money, and remember, you brought up the idea that he had this cultural obligation to send money back to his people. Whoever they are.

The fact remains that Pujols spent 16 years in the Dominican and roughly 16 years in Missouri, so who knows, maybe he'll spend 16 in Orange County (or until the Angels officially move into LA County).

As for his lunatic wife being brought up, well, I'm guessing you don't know a lot about Pujols, his wife, or the hilarity of her 1+ hour long radio interview about moving to LA.

 

[RL24]

You forgot to mention that you're not in the non-cracker boat.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

But its ok when a team lets their star player, who has been there for their whole career, go when they are no longer playing like they used to!

Anyway you shake it, St. Louis is a middle market team and one that can't handle a lot of huge contracts. And Pujols stats appeared to be on the decline (and still appear that way) so paying someone to a potentially crippling long-term contract for a trending downward stat line doesn't seem wise to me.

Then again, we have no idea what is fact about what St. Louis offered, or what they didn't offer.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

You forgot to mention that you're not in the non-cracker boat.

Yeah, I'm thinking that the he didn't realize that the "Been here since 16 or so, American citizen..." was referring to Pujols.

And yes indeed... my Scotch and French heritage has me whiter than the snow in Vermont.

 

[bigalbert]

Yeah, I'm thinking that the he didn't realize that the "Been here since 16 or so, American citizen..." was referring to Pujols.

And yes indeed... my Scotch and French heritage has me whiter than the snow in Vermont.

Move to L.A. you'll get brown.

 

[Casebusters]

Anyway you shake it, St. Louis is a middle market team and one that can't handle a lot of huge contracts. And Pujols stats appeared to be on the decline (and still appear that way) so paying someone to a potentially crippling long-term contract for a trending downward stat line doesn't seem wise to me.

Then again, we have no idea what is fact about what St. Louis offered, or what they didn't offer.

wasnt just referring about Pujols or Cardinals, I'm talking about any team that does that...