Leaf / Bigboydsportscards / Purple Refractors

[BowmanChromeAddict]

Okay, I looked it up. 92 players in Metal Draft and 91 (iirc) in Valiant (only Josh Bell was missing in Valiant). All others would have had 25 purple autos. But was Josh Bell included as a Purple Auto from Metal Draft? I'm thinking no. So that's (91 + 91) X 25 = 4,550. Were there anywhere near 4,550 boxes of Leaf Rookie Retro made? Was it 1 Purple Autos per Rookie Retro Box?

 

[All In Cards]

Okay, I looked it up. 92 players in Metal Draft and 91 (iirc) in Valiant (only Josh Bell was missing in Valiant). All others would have had 25 purple autos. But was Josh Bell included as a Purple Auto from Metal Draft? I'm thinking no. So that's (91 + 91) X 25 = 4,550. Were there anywhere near 4,550 boxes of Leaf Rookie Retro made? Was it 1 Purple Autos per Rookie Retro Box?

Each pack includes
- 1 buyback authenticated/graded Rookie cards (including autographed vintage rookie cards
- 1 2011 leaf purple prismatic autographed rookie card (#/25) OR purple vailiant autographed rookie card (#/25) with 25 RANDOMLY INSERTED PURPLE VALIANT ICHIRO SUZUKI ON-CARD AUTOGRAPHED CARDS!!!!!!

 

[ballerskrip]

Hmmm, excellent point on the production. Was there really 4500 boxes made? I thought it was a MUCH more limited print run than that.

 

[triplehattrick21]

Bigboyd and firstclass card guys are two completely different people. I have dealt individually with both of the guys mentioned. Bigboyd is located in Ohio and is well known for buy tons and tons of bulk and collection. He does not rip wax and as far as i know he does not get anything back doored from anyone. he just buys so much SH!T that he always has listings up, he also has a lot of people that work for him to list stuff up, makes sense why all of his stuff is shilled. Firstclasscardguys just rips a lot and also buy a lot of singles and grade them all. Hence the reason why they ALWAYS have the highest graded stuff on ebay.

 

[All In Cards]

Hmmm, excellent point on the production. Was there really 4500 boxes made? I thought it was a MUCH more limited print run than that.

4500/4 boxes per case = 1125

I cant see Leaf making that many cases. Maybe 1/2 of that and that might be on the high side

 

[jaydepasse]

i know its a different but in football they are pretty much the only one selling all of the test proofs for 2001 metal draft

 

[Gwynn545]

I once got two got two Mike Webster 25 stripes from a pack of 1991 Wildcard, so it is possible Bigboyd pulled them...

 

[P_Manning 18]

4500/4 boxes per case = 1125

I cant see Leaf making that many cases. Maybe 1/2 of that and that might be on the high side

So where did the leftover Purples go? This could get interesting since 1 seller is listing so many cards of the same player.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

i know its a different but in football they are pretty much the only one selling all of the test proofs for 2001 metal draft

Wonder if he is the guy that sets up at the National that had an entire display case full of Razor Press Plate Cards.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

4500/4 boxes per case = 1125

I cant see Leaf making that many cases. Maybe 1/2 of that and that might be on the high side

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Rookie Retro is only about a 500 case release. That's 2,000 purple autos but there were 4550 (-25 if there was no Ichiro Purple Metal), so you've got 2,525 left over purple autos...

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I guess I have my answer.

 

[mudflap02]

Bigboyd has listed a huge number of Starlin Castro player sample Heritage autos. I am thinking they are being backdoored from Topps.

9 listed, 8 by bigboyd. I don't care who you are, you're not getting those from wax, even if a few were packed out.

 

[yrocks2001]

Bigboyd has listed a huge number of Starlin Castro player sample Heritage autos. I am thinking they are being backdoored from Topps.

9 listed, 8 by bigboyd. I don't care who you are, you're not getting those from wax, even if a few were packed out.

Could he perhaps have a connection to Castro? I know I sent a couple players from 1963 requests for autographs through the mail and they included signed 2012 Topps Player Sample cards in addition to my cards. Perhaps someone just purchased the Castros from Starlin or Starlin may have mixed them in with the regular cards he had signed and nobody noticed.

 

[goldenegg1]

Wonder if he is the guy that sets up at the National that had an entire display case full of Razor Press Plate Cards.

Last year I saw this same guy, it was more like three full tables of Leaf Press Plates. I figured something wasn't right, there is no way that guy opened that much product to have that many plates. I didn't care all that much because I've only bought one Leaf pack since they became Leaf.

 

[All In Cards]

what about the National Exclusive VIP sets, how does BO and others get a ton to sell online?

or even the Leaf National Exclusive Pop Century Packs, I remember last year buying a ton of them, along with the Metal packs. Shouldnt they all be destroyed if not sold at the National?

 

[notjomommasclint]

Well at less they weren't destroyed at national!

 

[chi_sportscards]

Could he perhaps have a connection to Castro? I know I sent a couple players from 1963 requests for autographs through the mail and they included signed 2012 Topps Player Sample cards in addition to my cards. Perhaps someone just purchased the Castros from Starlin or Starlin may have mixed them in with the regular cards he had signed and nobody noticed.

All the Starlin Castro autographs are obtained by someone in Illinois for the Topps company, so I'm sure they were sold to someone and then sold to Bigboyd...."I'm 99.9% sure"

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I guess the consensus is that Brian sold them directly to the big eBayers?

 

[ballerskrip]

I guess the consensus is that Brian sold them directly to the big eBayers?

Makes sense, but I wouldn't say there is any proof as of yet

 

[P_Manning 18]

Time for another giveaway?