Leaf is back!

[Card Magnet]

Who did you acquire the inventory, employees, and other such things from? You were (and according to the website still are) the President and CEO of Razor Entertainment. Were you buying from yourself?

Guys, there is obviously a misunderstanding about this transition.

Razor still exists and has all the baseball deals. It is being looked at by several manufacturers for acquisition.

I acquired all cut inventory, brand names not associated with baseball, and all products in process (mma and pop century), plus employees and day to day operations .

I would ask you be patient. Our complete plan will be playing out over the next few months.

In the meantime, razor's FCB account is no longer going to be used . Gilmore will share additional info when available.

Bg

P.s. - thanks to those who wished u well today.

It reminds me of that one guy who used to have cards up for sale on his personal account when they were supposed to be the property of the business...

 

[Sean_C]

Granted most things in life end up resembling a Monty Python skit at one point or another, but I'm again reminded of the "Upper Class Twit of the Year" award sketch:

Ah there's Oliver (Oliver is still trying to jump the matchboxes), there's Oliver now, he's at the back. I think he's having a little trouble with his old brain injury, he's going to have a go, no, no, bad luck, he's up, he doesn't know when he's beaten, this boy, he doesn't know when he's winning either. He doesn't have any sort of sensory apparatus.

[youtube:13ksl2xx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSqkdcT25ss[/youtube:13ksl2xx]

The section starts at 2:32

 

[schmidtfan20]

run razor into the ground and then rename yourself with something that was good, then run that into the groung
and pick up something else. What a joke. At least he realized that the razor name was garbage.

 

[subpop77]

:? Like the name & great heritage but it won't be Leaf baseball ::facepalm::

I din't buy Razor. Won't be buying this.

 

[caseya10781]

Haven't read the entire thread, but what does this mean for the previously scheduled Razor releases? For example, RC Retro? Now Leaf RC Retro?

Casey

 

[kentuckyderby]

Haven't read the entire thread, but what does this mean for the previously scheduled Razor releases? For example, RC Retro? Now Leaf RC Retro?

Casey

wonder how those who are locked in with pre-sells feel about changes

 

[Sean_C]

I don't think it would really affect it all that much. People weren't buying it because it was a Razor product, but because it was filled with cards from other companies. Guess those baseball cards that they added to the product are part of the reason why the "Razor" brand still exists.

Haven't read the entire thread, but what does this mean for the previously scheduled Razor releases? For example, RC Retro? Now Leaf RC Retro?

Casey

wonder how those who are locked in with pre-sells feel about changes

 

[kentuckyderby]

I don't think it would really affect it all that much. People weren't buying it because it was a Razor product, but because it was filled with cards from other companies. Guess those baseball cards that they added to the product are part of the reason why the "Razor" brand still exists.

Haven't read the entire thread, but what does this mean for the previously scheduled Razor releases? For example, RC Retro? Now Leaf RC Retro?

Casey

wonder how those who are locked in with pre-sells feel about changes

Good point

 

[Crash Davis]

Maybe the market was getting a little too crowded???

Trading card manufacturer In The Game will expand into the baseball card market later this year. Preliminary details were released to collectors Wednesday at the 2010 National Sports Collectors Convention in Baltimore.

2010 In The Game Heroes and Prospects Baseball Hits will be the company’s first foray into the world of baseball cards.

For collectors that are familiar with the company’s releases for the hockey card market, the company’s Heroes and Prospects set is immediately associated with bringing the first autograph cards of hockey’s brightest young stars to the hobby. Since the 2004-05 season, the Heroes and Prospects brand has seen the cardboard debuts of Sidney Crosby, Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin, John Tavares, Steven Stamkos, Patrick Kane, Carey Price and many other current and future superstars.

“Over the past few years, In The Game’s Heroes and Prospects releases have remained among the most popular on the hockey card market and as the brand heads into its seventh season, we wanted to extend it into the baseball card market,” said In The Game’s President, Dr. Brian Price. “Our deep appreciation for the amazing history of the sport of baseball allows us to also go after some great names that are sure to appeal to collectors and we look forward to producing something that is sure to stand out in the marketplace.”

Each box of 2010 In The Game Heroes and Prospects Baseball Hits will contain four cards – all ‘hits’.

“We feel that the hobby is always moving in different directions, by making this product, it allows us to focus on what many collectors want the most – the “hits,” said Price.

On average, there will be 3.5 Prospect Autographs per box and every other box will contain one Heroes Cut Signature or Heroes Game-Used Memorabilia card.

The premier edition of In The Game Heroes and Prospects Baseball Hits will be released in November and the company promises the product will be “extremely limited”. Confirmed prospects to be featured include young stars Jason Heyward and Tim Beckham. A complete checklist will be available on the company’s website October 1.

As for the Heroes component of this product, Heroes Cut Signatures or limited Heroes Game-Used Memorabilia cards will feature Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams and Hank Aaron. Collectors can view the checklist for this portion of the product on September 15, 2010. The company released images Wednesday, showing cut autograph cards of Aaron and Williams.

“Who knows what direction that the success of 2010 In The Game Heroes and Prospects Baseball Hits will take us,” said Price. “If our new products appeal to enough collectors, I would love to see an expansion into the basketball and football prospect market as well. Only time will tell if we can accomplish this, but with the support of collectors we can certainly work hard to deliver what they want to see.”

Dr. Price is a good man. Had the opportunity to spend some time with him back in 2001 at the Cleveland National when he was running the Canadian Sports Card magazine (can't remember the name off hand).

Hopefully he will be able to make a niche where Gray didn't, but fully intended to.

Should be interesting...

 

[huntah]

Razor threads make me want to do one of two things: kill myself; or kill a bunch of other people. I still can't decide which.

What exactly did Razor do wrong? They released a quality, on card autograph set in 2008 Sig Series. They released Lettermen as well. I hate manufactured patch autos, but the Razor ones are pretty well made. They released Metal parallels on Ebay. Ok. Parallels aren't new to the hobby. They released the prismatic "proof" cards as well. Effectively the same thing Topps does with encased blankback proofs sold through the Topps Vault.

People hate Razor because they're prospectors. They lost money on an investment, so they come whine about it on a messageboard. It isn't Razor's fault you lost money on their product. It's your fault because you're an idiot who's trying to make money on baseball cards

That worth at least a thanks. Especialy the "idiot" part. Someone should add a crying smilies in here.

Anyone knows a forum where I can compain about a cereal box I bought? I tried to turn my purchase into profit, but haven't been able to. Die Frosted Flakes! Die!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet.

So, has anyone come up with a groovy nickname, the way Leaf's former owner can go by Donini or Panruss?

Raef? Lezor? I got it! Lazor!

Interesting that Leaf was available. As this was a Donruss asset, and all Donruss assets, I thought, were sold to Panini, was Panini the seller of "Leaf" to Razor?

I'm curious as to how this deal went down, and how much Leaf was sold for. It truly makes no sense to me if Razor has the reputation outside of the baseball industry it has. Obviously, it had a good reputation in the poker world. I can only assume that there's going to be an attempt to enter the retired player baseball market. . .

 

[nyc3]

Anyone knows a forum where I can compain about a cereal box I bought? I tried to turn my purchase into profit, but haven't been able to. Die Frosted Flakes! Die!

Depends, did the company owner tell you the cereal would be worth money in 5 years with an attitude? And how about the group of people who went around calling people idiots who didn't think this stuff was worth any ones time? Are those idiots now supposed to forgotten?

Its amazing how time helps one forget, or should I say its amazing how the ones calling the people names back then now look like the names they where calling people. And how fast they now want to "move on". Convenient isn't it? What happened to the 5 year plan the "idiots" promised the "idiots"?

Razor was doing something with their brand recently, now they are expecting to move into a brand and forget the mess left behind. Yeah good luck with that. Luckily from day one I smelled funk so I lost zilch and actually have had fun with the poker product, but it was fun being called an idiot twice from people who jumped to both sides of the fence.

 

[AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR]

Someone left the closet door open, and the skeletons are coming out... ::facepalm::

 

[huntah]

Anyone knows a forum where I can compain about a cereal box I bought? I tried to turn my purchase into profit, but haven't been able to. Die Frosted Flakes! Die!

Depends, did the company owner tell you the cereal would be worth money in 5 years with an attitude? And how about the group of people who went around calling people idiots who didn't think this stuff was worth any ones time? Are those idiots now supposed to forgotten?

Its amazing how time helps one forget, or should I say its amazing how the ones calling the people names back then now look like the names they where calling people. And how fast they now want to "move on". Convenient isn't it? What happened to the 5 year plan the "idiots" promised the "idiots"?

Razor was doing something with their brand recently, now they are expecting to move into a brand and forget the mess left behind. Yeah good luck with that. Luckily from day one I smelled funk so I lost zilch and actually have had fun with the poker product, but it was fun being called an idiot twice from people who jumped to both sides of the fence.

If Brian wants to change HIS 5 year plan every 3 months he can ga ahead and do it. Have you forgot you are not part of this company? I have bought thousand $ of Metal card and I'm happy with the result I ended up with. If had loose money I would take on me and I would not be here crying after Razor because they decide to do this and that.

No mather what has been said. Razor promised baseball cards and they delivered baseball cards. What you have created in your mind after that is only in your dreams. Sorry to wake you up.

 

[HPC]

Anyone knows a forum where I can compain about a cereal box I bought? I tried to turn my purchase into profit, but haven't been able to. Die Frosted Flakes! Die!

Depends, did the company owner tell you the cereal would be worth money in 5 years with an attitude?

(Im not directing this at the OP, but in general)

This right here is a classic example of why prospectors lose money: they put too much faith into what someone says instead of doing the thinking for themselves

If I told you that I had a bridge in Phoenix to sell you, would you buy it without doing some research first? Same with buying a car. Do you walk into the car dealership and believe everything the salesman tells you?

I doubt it.

It's the blind leading the blind.

Now, that is not to say Razor didnt do shady things, but to blame them for your loss/unwise prospecting isnt fair.

People make promises all the time, and if Razor kept saying "we wont release any more like this, we promise", after the second time being let down, why did you keep buying? Didnt you see the writing on the wall with 2 previous examples? A company will do whatever is in it's best interests to make money and profit. If a sig series type brand sells well, why do you think they'd stop making it?

Once again, not condoning Razor's business practices but sometimes looking in the mirror is a tough pill to swallow.

 

[Crash Davis]

Anyone knows a forum where I can compain about a cereal box I bought? I tried to turn my purchase into profit, but haven't been able to. Die Frosted Flakes! Die!

Depends, did the company owner tell you the cereal would be worth money in 5 years with an attitude? And how about the group of people who went around calling people idiots who didn't think this stuff was worth any ones time? Are those idiots now supposed to forgotten?

Its amazing how time helps one forget, or should I say its amazing how the ones calling the people names back then now look like the names they where calling people. And how fast they now want to "move on". Convenient isn't it? What happened to the 5 year plan the "idiots" promised the "idiots"?

Razor was doing something with their brand recently, now they are expecting to move into a brand and forget the mess left behind. Yeah good luck with that. Luckily from day one I smelled funk so I lost zilch and actually have had fun with the poker product, but it was fun being called an idiot twice from people who jumped to both sides of the fence.

If Brian wants to change HIS 5 year plan every 3 months he can ga ahead and do it. Have you forgot you are not part of this company? I have bought thousand $ of Metal card and I'm happy with the result I ended up with. If had loose money I would take on me and I would not be here crying after Razor because they decide to do this and that.

No mather what has been said. Razor promised baseball cards and they delivered baseball cards. What you have created in your mind after that is only in your dreams. Sorry to wake you up.

Ummm...what? Seriously, I have no idea what you just wrote.

 

[DINANBBS]

WOW this is sick !!! What kinds of Candy is he making ?????

 

[A_Pharis]

#1 Mistake in Sports Cards: Expecting to make money with them.
#2 Mistake in Sports Cards: Blaming someone else when your investment goes south.

No one promises any value in anything sports card related. If you could be guaranteed to make money investing in them, then you'd see major market trade in it. Guess what? There isn't.

Stay away from high story windows.

 

[Philip J. Fry]

#1 Mistake in Sports Cards: Expecting to make money with them.
#2 Mistake in Sports Cards: Blaming someone else when your investment goes south.

No one promises any value in anything sports card related. If you could be guaranteed to make money investing in them, then you'd see major market trade in it. Guess what? There isn't.

Stay away from high story windows.

Except Topps did that from 1996 to 1999 with their $125 Bowman Guarantee. But I agree with you said.

 

[A_Pharis]

[quote="A_Pharis":12o8lj17]#1 Mistake in Sports Cards: Expecting to make money with them.
#2 Mistake in Sports Cards: Blaming someone else when your investment goes south.

No one promises any value in anything sports card related. If you could be guaranteed to make money investing in them, then you'd see major market trade in it. Guess what? There isn't.

Stay away from high story windows.

Except Topps did that from 1996 to 1999 with their $125 Bowman Guarantee. But I agree with you said.[/quote:12o8lj17]

Clearly, Topps is Satan and cannot be trusted.

I guess what I should have said is:
"No one promises any value in anything sports card related with any shred of credibility towards that statement."