Lesnar vs Couture! The Aftermath!

[peaceandlove]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture

doesn't look like Werdum will be getting a title shot anytime soon after tonight.

 

[Guest]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture

doesn't look like Werdum will be getting a title shot anytime soon after tonight.

We were all sitting around watching the fight, and my friend asked me who I had in the fight and I said "I think Werdum will win it" and by the time I had even gotten the word 'Werdum' out of my mouth he was knocked out cold. And my friend was like, "You still got him?"

It was pretty funny.

 

[hector234]

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You guys don't think that Randy may be getting too old?

What is he, like 45?

I don't know how well a 45 year old is going to do against the younger guy.


I'll be honest, I'm newer to the MMA game and really am not all that familier with Couture, except his name and highlights.


So I am eager to hear what people think about how they feel the two of these guys will match up in the octagon.


From what I read online, he's similar to Lesnar in the ground and pound, and has some BJJ and other ground game for subs. Which Lesnar lacks.

It will be very interesting to hear what people say, and to see what happens.

Couture is great at controlling his opponents, either by having them on the ground, or in the clinch.

 

[NECpilgrims8]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture to be announced.

You guys don't think that Randy may be getting too old?

What is he, like 45?

I don't know how well a 45 year old is going to do against the younger guy.


I'll be honest, I'm newer to the MMA game and really am not all that familier with Couture, except his name and highlights.


So I am eager to hear what people think about how they feel the two of these guys will match up in the octagon.


From what I read online, he's similar to Lesnar in the ground and pound, and has some BJJ and other ground game for subs. Which Lesnar lacks.

It will be very interesting to hear what people say, and to see what happens.

Couture is great at controlling his opponents, either by having them on the ground, or in the clinch.

Randy has never been known for dominating in the clinch. He is stricly a ground and pound guy, who has had success on his feet as well. He is a submission specialist, not a muay thai fighter.

 

[hector234]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture to be announced.

You guys don't think that Randy may be getting too old?

What is he, like 45?

I don't know how well a 45 year old is going to do against the younger guy.


I'll be honest, I'm newer to the MMA game and really am not all that familier with Couture, except his name and highlights.


So I am eager to hear what people think about how they feel the two of these guys will match up in the octagon.


From what I read online, he's similar to Lesnar in the ground and pound, and has some BJJ and other ground game for subs. Which Lesnar lacks.

It will be very interesting to hear what people say, and to see what happens.

Couture is great at controlling his opponents, either by having them on the ground, or in the clinch.

Randy has never been known for dominating in the clinch. He is stricly a ground and pound guy, who has had success on his feet as well. He is a submission specialist, not a muay thai fighter.

Didn't say he dominates, he wears his opponents down in the clinch. What do you think greco roman wrestlers like to do? Clinch. I didn't say Muay Thai clinch. And please tell me what style of wrestling Couture does? The answer is greco roman. You should read up on your wrestling before you try and comment like that

 

[Guest]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture

My Fight Prediction:

I am taking Brock Lesnar in the first or second round due to ref stoppage.


I added a poll, be sure to vote.........for Lesnar! :lol:

 

[hector234]

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I can't ever go against Randy Couture

 

[Guest]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture. Get your predictions in now!

I can't ever go against Randy Couture

Even against Fedor?

 

[hector234]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture. Get your predictions in now!

I can't ever go against Randy Couture

Even against Fedor?

Even though I know Fedor would beat Couture, I still would go for Randy. Didn't say that Couture was going to win though.

 

[hector234]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture

Sure, but at least Mir, Silva, etc. have more than three fights (one of them a loss).

I watch the UFC because I love mma. As far as the company though, I absolutely hate them and the way they do business. Especially Dana White who is a complete *******.

I have to agree. I think White is doing this just to bank in more money. Lesnar is a good fighter, but he does not deserve a title shot. I think the lack of depth in the heavyweight division also caused this. I think Lesnar should've fought someone like Gabriel Gonzaga, and had he won that, maybe you can make a case.

 

[peaceandlove]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture

Sure, but at least Mir, Silva, etc. have more than three fights (one of them a loss).

I watch the UFC because I love mma. As far as the company though, I absolutely hate them and the way they do business. Especially Dana White who is a complete *******.

I have to agree. I think White is doing this just to bank in more money. Lesnar is a good fighter, but he does not deserve a title shot. I think the lack of depth in the heavyweight division also caused this. I think Lesnar should've fought someone like Gabriel Gonzaga, and had he won that, maybe you can make a case.

i have to disagree to an extent. he might be doing this because it will be a big draw but at the same time, Lesnar wouldn't be getting this shot unless Dana thought Lesnar had a good chance of winning it. you can hate him all you want, but if White was only about making money off gates and PPV buys, Kimbo would have been in the UFC from the start. Since Dana actually cares about MMA, there wasn't a chance. josh Barnett doesn't care much for Dana personally but even he will admit that. He put this fight out there because people want to see it and because many people think Lesnar will win. As long as he keeps doing that and keeps being legit with the fights, UFC will continue to be rake in.

 

[hector234]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture

Sure, but at least Mir, Silva, etc. have more than three fights (one of them a loss).

I watch the UFC because I love mma. As far as the company though, I absolutely hate them and the way they do business. Especially Dana White who is a complete *******.

I have to agree. I think White is doing this just to bank in more money. Lesnar is a good fighter, but he does not deserve a title shot. I think the lack of depth in the heavyweight division also caused this. I think Lesnar should've fought someone like Gabriel Gonzaga, and had he won that, maybe you can make a case.

i have to disagree to an extent. he might be doing this because it will be a big draw but at the same time, Lesnar wouldn't be getting this shot unless Dana thought Lesnar had a good chance of winning it. you can hate him all you want, but if White was only about making money off gates and PPV buys, Kimbo would have been in the UFC from the start. Since Dana actually cares about MMA, there wasn't a chance. josh Barnett doesn't care much for Dana personally but even he will admit that. He put this fight out there because people want to see it and because many people think Lesnar will win. As long as he keeps doing that and keeps being legit with the fights, UFC will continue to be rake in.

Dana knows the difference between someone that fights for the love of the sport and someone that does it for money. Kimbo even said he does it for the money.

 

[Guest]

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Nobody can blame Lesnar for taking this fight. He had Kongo on the brain after the Herring fight, and Dana came to him with the idea of fighting Couture. He would have been stupid not to take it.

I read every single day of people being pissed at Brock because he's getting an 'undeserved' title shot. People are mad at Brock about it. Which is stupid. Because he wasn't pushing for it. He wasn't even thinking about it. It was brought to him.

I totally understand if someone wants to be mad about a fighter getting an undeserved title shot, if that's what they think, but be mad at the right person, not the fighter who it was brought to.


I try and not hate on Dana, but I understand why he gets hated on by some.

 

[hector234]

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I'm not mad at all. I think it will be a great fight. I just think Lesnar needs to gain some more experience. Dana takes a lot of crap because of certain things he has done. He talked smack about Fedor. He also got upset at Tito and Randy for voicing their opinions about how fighters are paid. He has done great things for the sport, but a lot of top fighter resent him for certain things. Frank Shamrock, and Matt Linland also don't like Dana

 

[Guest]

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Man, there are a few good hype videos in the main page of UFC.com right now.

The closer this fight gets the more excited and nervous I am getting. You just can't count Randy out. And that worries me.

 

[hector234]

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I hope Randy wins. But Brock is a beast.

 

[Guest]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture. Get your predictions in now!

Brock Lesnar talks about his upcoming clash with Randy Couture.

On getting the opportunity to face Randy Couture for the title...

"I'm very excited....it's been a good training camp. I'm just ready to do this.

"It's one of these things where I'm honored to even step in the Octagon with Randy...Hopefully, there is a lot of people watching. It's an exciting thing for myself."

On his preparations for the fight...

"We've watched every single one of Randy's fights a number of different times...we've watched a lot of film on him..."

"He has trouble with bigger guys...guys that knew how to control him...Tim sylvia and Gonzaga didn't know how to control him."

"I would have to say that, you know, I'm a huge threat to him. I've got a reach advantage and a power advantage...Randy hasn't knocked anyone out and neither have I...I would have to think he's gonna be scared of these big ol' soup cans that are going to be coming at him."

On what weight he plans on entering the Octagon...

"About 275. Between 75 and 80."

On his training and advantages...

"We're younger. We're stronger. We're faster...this guy is on his way out and we're going to make sure it happens."

"I had to scramble...I lost a couple of guys that had been with my camp...I wasn't expecting to fight this soon...I've got Cole Conrad...Brad Imes in this last week...I brought some Jiu Jitsu guys in...a guy by the name of Brian Kramer...he wrestled Randy before."

On some of Kim Couture's comments...

"I'm glad he's got a supporting wife."

On Randy's comments that he would put Lesnar on his back...

"I hope he does try to take me down...I'm surrounded by great athletes and great wrestlers that can't take me down. Hopefully, in his mind, he comes prepared and if he gets me down, he's gonna have a hell of a time keeping me down...I'm coming to this fight knowing that I'm going to dominate this fight..."

His thoughts on Mazzagatti...

"He failed to do his job that night and we're not going to let that happen again."

"He won't ref any of my fights in the future!"

On walking out when asked about steroids...

"It's one of those things where I've been accused of using steroids my entire life...I've never once have ever given any indication that I use or abuse steroids...I've never failed a drug test...if I were a black guy and looked the way I do, would I get asked this question...I just happen to be a white guy with great genetics..."

On Mir vs. Nogueira...

"To me, it's a toss up I guess...Nogueira's a tough guy...I don't know...for me, I hope Mir wins because I want a rematch against Frank."

Much more in the full article:

You know, I am sick of the Sherdoggers whining and moaning about how much of a bitch they think Brock is because he doesn't want Mazagatti reffing any of his matches. I kind of wish Brock would just drop it too, but the guy has a point.

It was ******** when Maz deducted the point for strikes to the back of the head. It seems like that guy does that in about every fight he refs. He does it ALL THE TIME from what I have seen. Way more than any other ref. It's not like Lesnar was just sitting there pounding him in the back of the head with wreckless abandon. Mir was moving from side to side underneath him and there was nothing Brock could really do about where the punches landed.

Maz wants to stand them up after the strikes and give a warning, that's fine, and I am sure Brock wouldn't have made such a fuss about it. But the automatic deduction of the point was ******** in my opinion.


I am getting to the point where I hope Brock damn near ends Randys life with strikes just because I am sick and tired of his mouthy fans on SherDog. Every 3 seconds there's a new thread started about how much Brock sucks on the Heavyweight forum, and it's getting old.

 

[hector234]

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Brock Lesnar talks about his upcoming clash with Randy Couture.

On getting the opportunity to face Randy Couture for the title...

"I'm very excited....it's been a good training camp. I'm just ready to do this.

"It's one of these things where I'm honored to even step in the Octagon with Randy...Hopefully, there is a lot of people watching. It's an exciting thing for myself."

On his preparations for the fight...

"We've watched every single one of Randy's fights a number of different times...we've watched a lot of film on him..."

"He has trouble with bigger guys...guys that knew how to control him...Tim sylvia and Gonzaga didn't know how to control him."

"I would have to say that, you know, I'm a huge threat to him. I've got a reach advantage and a power advantage...Randy hasn't knocked anyone out and neither have I...I would have to think he's gonna be scared of these big ol' soup cans that are going to be coming at him."

On what weight he plans on entering the Octagon...

"About 275. Between 75 and 80."

On his training and advantages...

"We're younger. We're stronger. We're faster...this guy is on his way out and we're going to make sure it happens."

"I had to scramble...I lost a couple of guys that had been with my camp...I wasn't expecting to fight this soon...I've got Cole Conrad...Brad Imes in this last week...I brought some Jiu Jitsu guys in...a guy by the name of Brian Kramer...he wrestled Randy before."

On some of Kim Couture's comments...

"I'm glad he's got a supporting wife."

On Randy's comments that he would put Lesnar on his back...

"I hope he does try to take me down...I'm surrounded by great athletes and great wrestlers that can't take me down. Hopefully, in his mind, he comes prepared and if he gets me down, he's gonna have a hell of a time keeping me down...I'm coming to this fight knowing that I'm going to dominate this fight..."

His thoughts on Mazzagatti...

"He failed to do his job that night and we're not going to let that happen again."

"He won't ref any of my fights in the future!"

On walking out when asked about steroids...

"It's one of those things where I've been accused of using steroids my entire life...I've never once have ever given any indication that I use or abuse steroids...I've never failed a drug test...if I were a black guy and looked the way I do, would I get asked this question...I just happen to be a white guy with great genetics..."

On Mir vs. Nogueira...

"To me, it's a toss up I guess...Nogueira's a tough guy...I don't know...for me, I hope Mir wins because I want a rematch against Frank."

Much more in the full article:

You know, I am sick of the Sherdoggers whining and moaning about how much of a bitch they think Brock is because he doesn't want Mazagatti reffing any of his matches. I kind of wish Brock would just drop it too, but the guy has a point.

It was *censor* when Maz deducted the point for strikes to the back of the head. It seems like that guy does that in about every fight he refs. He does it ALL THE TIME from what I have seen. Way more than any other ref. It's not like Lesnar was just sitting there pounding him in the back of the head with wreckless abandon. Mir was moving from side to side underneath him and there was nothing Brock could really do about where the punches landed.

Maz wants to stand them up after the strikes and give a warning, that's fine, and I am sure Brock wouldn't have made such a fuss about it. But the automatic deduction of the point was *censor* in my opinion.


I am getting to the point where I hope Brock damn near ends Randys life with strikes just because I am sick and tired of his mouthy fans on SherDog. Every 3 seconds there's a new thread started about how much Brock sucks on the Heavyweight forum, and it's getting old.

:lol: I don't see that happening. I have respect for Brock, he's a beast. The call by Maz was questionable, but Lesnar left himself open for Mir to submit him. Anyone that thinks Brock sucks doesn't know what they are talking about

 

[Guest]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture. Get your predictions in now!

A week away!!!!
What are your guys thoughts as the fight gets closer?????

 

[Guest]

Re: Lesnar vs Couture. Get your predictions in now!

I am so conflicted in my thinking about this fight.

Sometimes I am thinking that Brock is just going to come out and destroy Randy and damn near kill him. That's id this finally IS the 'old' Randy coming into the octagon like everyone has predicted in the past.

Other times I am thinking that Brock will come out and just move around and not take things too fast from the start. I could see a round of feeling each other out because of the experience factor that Randy has over Brock, and he doesn't want to make the same mistake that he made against Frank Mir.

I could see 5 rounds of Brock just laying on top of Randy, being as they are both wrestlers.

I can see Brock knocking him out in the first round.

I can't see Randy knocking Brock out or getting a ref stoppage due to strikes.

I also can't see Randy tapping Brock out unless Brock makes some huge glaring mistake like he did in the Frank Mir fight.

Brock's chin hasn't been tested yet, but I just don't see this Couture being able to rock Brock like he did Tim Sylvia. But I could see Brock throwig one of those Herring punches and putting Randy to sleep.

Maybe Randy isn't coming into this fight 'too old' like some are claiming. Maybe he is in great shape and can do what he's done so many times before. Who knows? I don't. And that's what makes this fight so interesting.

I just don't see Randy being able to overtake Lesnar. I honestly don't. But that doesn't mean that I am not getting more and more worried the closer the fight gets that the old Randy is going to show up and embarass Brock.

I can see anything happening in this fight almost, and that's what I love about this ****.