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May I Present to You -- The 2010 Bowman FINALIZED Checklist!

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mredsox89

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jdhaugh11 said:
Looks like you will get either a Triple Relic or Strasburg Auto. per Regular Case. So if you get a Relic, you probably won't see a Strasburg Auto.


Relic @ 1:402 is .71 per case, regular Stras is 1:2013 or .14 per case, blue Stras is 1:5700 or .05 per case, orange Stras is 1:56,500 or .004 per case. Roughly overall expected odds of .904 per hobby case. So I wouldn't be surprised for them to appear roughly one per hobby case, but there will certainly be cases without them
 

abt3509

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mredsox89 said:
jdhaugh11 said:
Looks like you will get either a Triple Relic or Strasburg Auto. per Regular Case. So if you get a Relic, you probably won't see a Strasburg Auto.


Relic @ 1:402 is .71 per case, regular Stras is 1:2013 or .14 per case, blue Stras is 1:5700 or .05 per case, orange Stras is 1:56,500 or .004 per case. Roughly overall expected odds of .904 per hobby case. So I wouldn't be surprised for them to appear roughly one per hobby case, but there will certainly be cases without them

You could probably add the MLB log patch cards @.05 per case and make that .954 per hobby case. So you may get one of those three per case. Still leaves .046 without!!
 

jdhaugh11

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when you are talking about over 95%, then I consider than an average of 1 per case. I realize some people might get 2 and some get 0, but overall the average is about 1 per Regular Hobby Case, which is a nice extra to hope for and nearly expect!
 

Messier2

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Just bought a 12 box case of this stuff. My second bowman case ever and third case overall!

Can't wait! :D
 

Messier2

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So by the calculations...is there a Strasburg Auto per case? Or a Strasburg auto or Triple Relic per case?
 

abt3509

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Messier2 said:
So by the calculations...is there a Strasburg Auto per case? Or a Strasburg auto or Triple Relic per case?

It looks like it is a Strasburg Auto or Triple Relic per case. Don't forget the ever famous "ON AVERAGE" disclaimer that companies use to cover their back sides.
 

aaron41984

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Those triple relics are gonna be hard as hell to get and not worth it. I wish they would have just slapped a sticker auto or something on them if they were gonna make them that scarce.
 

jdhaugh11

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Once the Jumbo Pack odds are released, I could tell you exactly how many Regular and Jumbo boxes were made based on the Strasburg Odds, because the Red 1/1 is Jumbo Exclusive and the other Strasburg Autos are Hobby and Jumbo exclusive.

For now I can estimate. Even if the only made Hobby and not any Jumbos, there would only be 4,905 cases made.
Strasburg Orange Auto: 25 made and 1:56,500 packs
means that there would be 1,412,500 packs, 58,854 boxes and 4,905 cases made.
However we know that not all the Orange autos will be in the regular Hobby, I would bet 15 of the 25 will be in Jumbo
So if 10 of the 25 Orange Strasburg autos are in hobby at 1:56,500 packs, then: 565,000 packs, 23,542 boxes and 1,962 cases were made of Regular Hobby.
Whatever the odds state on Jumbo for the Red 1/1 Strasburg auto, that will tell you how many Jumbo packs were made. You then can calculate the number or actual Orange Autos of Strasburg in Jumbos, then subtract that amount from the hobby amount and multiply that by the hobby pack odds to figure out the actual number of hobby boxes.
My estimated guess is that there are 120,000 packs, 10,000 boxes and 1,250 cases made of Jumbo.
If the Jumbo packs odds say that the Red 1/1 Strasburg auto is around 1:120,000, you will know I am right on.
 

jdhaugh11

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They did up the print run of some of the parallels.
The Blue's are /520 instead of /500
Blue Chrome are /250 instead of /150
and the USA Chrome Ref's were /775 I think!
 

mredsox89

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jdhaugh11 said:
They did up the print run of some of the parallels.
The Blue's are /520 instead of /500
Blue Chrome are /250 instead of /150
and the USA Chrome Ref's were /775 I think!


Non auto blue refractors were listed at /250 from the beginning on the sell sheet. Blue refractor autos were listed at 150. They did change the base blues from 500 though.

USA chrome refractors are /777 if I remember correctly. We won't be able to really see what the overall production line was until we get the jumbo odds
 

LazerShow15

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Apr 2, 2009
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jdhaugh11 said:
They did up the print run of some of the parallels.
The Blue's are /520 instead of /500
Blue Chrome are /250 instead of /150
and the USA Chrome Ref's were /775 I think!

This could mean one thing. Possibly they upped production as a whole.
 

matchpenalty

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jdhaugh11 said:
Once the Jumbo Pack odds are released, I could tell you exactly how many Regular and Jumbo boxes were made based on the Strasburg Odds, because the Red 1/1 is Jumbo Exclusive and the other Strasburg Autos are Hobby and Jumbo exclusive.

For now I can estimate. Even if the only made Hobby and not any Jumbos, there would only be 4,905 cases made.
Strasburg Orange Auto: 25 made and 1:56,500 packs
means that there would be 1,412,500 packs, 58,854 boxes and 4,905 cases made.
However we know that not all the Orange autos will be in the regular Hobby, I would bet 15 of the 25 will be in Jumbo
So if 10 of the 25 Orange Strasburg autos are in hobby at 1:56,500 packs, then: 565,000 packs, 23,542 boxes and 1,962 cases were made of Regular Hobby.
Whatever the odds state on Jumbo for the Red 1/1 Strasburg auto, that will tell you how many Jumbo packs were made. You then can calculate the number or actual Orange Autos of Strasburg in Jumbos, then subtract that amount from the hobby amount and multiply that by the hobby pack odds to figure out the actual number of hobby boxes.
My estimated guess is that there are 120,000 packs, 10,000 boxes and 1,250 cases made of Jumbo.
If the Jumbo packs odds say that the Red 1/1 Strasburg auto is around 1:120,000, you will know I am right on.

So is production up from last year?
 

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