thefasterblade
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I like Montero, but he is very likely going to be a DH.
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Jaypers said:kdailey4315 said:Jaypers said:http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090731&content_id=6161780&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Montero is way too low. Top 5 easy, in my book.
Who would you take out of the top 5 and replace with Montero? All the lists that I've seen so far this year have the same top 5.
Smoak, no question. He's good, but not that good.
kdailey4315 said:Jaypers said:http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090731&content_id=6161780&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Montero is way too low. Top 5 easy, in my book.
Who would you take out of the top 5 and replace with Montero? All the lists that I've seen so far this year have the same top 5.
Jaypers said:kdailey4315 said:Jaypers said:http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090731&content_id=6161780&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Montero is way too low. Top 5 easy, in my book.
Who would you take out of the top 5 and replace with Montero? All the lists that I've seen so far this year have the same top 5.
Smoak, no question. He's good, but not that good.
AKA Coastal said:Feliz, Revere, and Escobar are to high IMO.
hive17 said:AKA Coastal said:Feliz, Revere, and Escobar are to high IMO.
Escobar is about right.
andyduke86 said:MLB's list lives up to expectations once again. Horrible as usual.
Overrated:
Madison Bumgarner
Neftali Feliz
Alcides Escobar
Matt LaPorta
Jake Arrieta
Jeremy Hellickson
Michael Taylor
Austin Jackson
Lars Anderson
Michael Bowden
Not a chance. Anderson is overrated, but the other guys on this list are not overrated by any means. How is the best pitching prospect in Bumgarner overrated? LaPorta is a monster hands down, Arrieta repeats his motion on a continuous basis, Hellickson is a stud, Taylor is a masher, Jackson has 5 tools and yeah his K's are a little high but that is not enough to "overrate him" , and Bowden is a potential #5 starter.
Too Low
Jesus Montero
Carlos Santana
Matt Moore
Casey Kelly
I'm sure there are some guys not listed, I'm just drawing a blank right now
jbone17 said:andyduke86 said:MLB's list lives up to expectations once again. Horrible as usual.
Overrated:
Madison Bumgarner
Neftali Feliz
Alcides Escobar
Matt LaPorta
Jake Arrieta
Jeremy Hellickson
Michael Taylor
Austin Jackson
Lars Anderson
Michael Bowden
Not a chance. Anderson is overrated, but the other guys on this list are not overrated by any means. How is the best pitching prospect in Bumgarner overrated? LaPorta is a monster hands down, Arrieta repeats his motion on a continuous basis, Hellickson is a stud, Taylor is a masher, Jackson has 5 tools and yeah his K's are a little high but that is not enough to "overrate him" , and Bowden is a potential #5 starter.
gvsu96 said:Glad to see the Pedro Borbon comeback is on track, Made the top 50. Let's see if he can crack the top 10 before the call up.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... pe01.shtml
andyduke86 said:jbone17 said:andyduke86 said:MLB's list lives up to expectations once again. Horrible as usual.
Overrated:
Madison Bumgarner
Neftali Feliz
Alcides Escobar
Matt LaPorta
Jake Arrieta
Jeremy Hellickson
Michael Taylor
Austin Jackson
Lars Anderson
Michael Bowden
Not a chance. Anderson is overrated, but the other guys on this list are not overrated by any means. How is the best pitching prospect in Bumgarner overrated? LaPorta is a monster hands down, Arrieta repeats his motion on a continuous basis, Hellickson is a stud, Taylor is a masher, Jackson has 5 tools and yeah his K's are a little high but that is not enough to "overrate him" , and Bowden is a potential #5 starter.
Wow, you haven't been following some of these guys very closely. Arrieta repeats his motion consistently? That is 100% false. I've seen him twice, that's what I've seen, and everything you can read from reliable sources (BA) will tell you the same thing. If anything losing his mechanics/command in a game has become his calling card.
Bumgarner isn't the best pitching prospect, he has 1 pitch right now that is average or better. You can dominate in the lower minors with a well located fastball, but not in the majors. Matusz, Tillman, Parker are easily better prospects. I'd put Bumgarner in the 10-15 range, he's still a great prospect.
Hellickson is a 3/4 starter, not enough upside. In the 25-35 range for me most likely.
Taylor is a future AAAA player. Average big leaguer at best.
Jackson is typical Yankees hype. Melky Cabrera redux.
Bowden is a potential #5 starter. Thanks for making the point for me.
LLWesMan said:hive17 said:AKA Coastal said:Feliz, Revere, and Escobar are to high IMO.
Escobar is about right.
I don't think too many GM's would take him over the guy right below him...
hive17 said:LLWesMan said:hive17 said:AKA Coastal said:Feliz, Revere, and Escobar are to high IMO.
Escobar is about right.
I don't think too many GM's would take him over the guy right below him...
really? b/c every single GM who talked to Doug Melvin asked about him first.
andyduke86 said:jbone17 said:andyduke86 said:MLB's list lives up to expectations once again. Horrible as usual.
Overrated:
Madison Bumgarner
Neftali Feliz
Alcides Escobar
Matt LaPorta
Jake Arrieta
Jeremy Hellickson
Michael Taylor
Austin Jackson
Lars Anderson
Michael Bowden
Not a chance. Anderson is overrated, but the other guys on this list are not overrated by any means. How is the best pitching prospect in Bumgarner overrated? LaPorta is a monster hands down, Arrieta repeats his motion on a continuous basis, Hellickson is a stud, Taylor is a masher, Jackson has 5 tools and yeah his K's are a little high but that is not enough to "overrate him" , and Bowden is a potential #5 starter.
Wow, you haven't been following some of these guys very closely. Arrieta repeats his motion consistently? That is 100% false. I've seen him twice, that's what I've seen, and everything you can read from reliable sources (BA) will tell you the same thing. If anything losing his mechanics/command in a game has become his calling card.
Bumgarner isn't the best pitching prospect, he has 1 pitch right now that is average or better. You can dominate in the lower minors with a well located fastball, but not in the majors. Matusz, Tillman, Parker are easily better prospects. I'd put Bumgarner in the 10-15 range, he's still a great prospect.
Hellickson is a 3/4 starter, not enough upside. In the 25-35 range for me most likely.
Taylor is a future AAAA player. Average big leaguer at best.
Jackson is typical Yankees hype. Melky Cabrera redux.
Bowden is a potential #5 starter. Thanks for making the point for me.
Just because I'm saying they're overrated doesn't mean I'm saying they're not great prospects.
LLWesMan said:hive17 said:LLWesMan said:hive17 said:AKA Coastal said:Feliz, Revere, and Escobar are to high IMO.
Escobar is about right.
I don't think too many GM's would take him over the guy right below him...
really? b/c every single GM who talked to Doug Melvin asked about him first.
Not saying he isn't the Brewers best prospect, just that Jesus (IMO) is better...