More mama_bear** discussion...

[SeattleSports]

They are idiots. They are still using crayons and writing like third graders.
No wonder they're so stupid.
I could make a mint selling to these guys. But my loyal customers would lose out. I enjoy their company when they stop in to shoot the stuff though.
Nuff said. I guess I do not care if you believe me or not. Every thing I have written except for a few mathematical errors done in my head are correct and true.
No wonder I am mobbed when new releases come out.
HA!

What is your cost on 2011 Bowman (regular and jumbo)?

26, 34.

NEXT!

Getting confused on which account is which?

 

[blazers091]

this is a serious discussion, can somebody ban the troll?

 

[Original Boski]

They are idiots. They are still using crayons and writing like third graders.
No wonder they're so stupid.
I could make a mint selling to these guys. But my loyal customers would lose out. I enjoy their company when they stop in to shoot the stuff though.
Nuff said. I guess I do not care if you believe me or not. Every thing I have written except for a few mathematical errors done in my head are correct and true.
No wonder I am mobbed when new releases come out.
HA!

What is your cost on 2011 Bowman (regular and jumbo)?

26, 34.

NEXT!

Getting confused on which account is which?

Every time someone makes a post referencing the guy doesn't mean it is the guy. It was a joke, relax.

And how do we know you aren't this clown, posting on your account trying to finger other people to get the heat off you and keep people from looking at you!

 

[Fandruw25]

Why are you guys still responding? HES TROLLING. He's probably 12 years old, just ignore it.

Getting confused on which account is which?

Maybe you should follow your own advice.

 

[nyc3]

Every time someone makes a post referencing the guy doesn't mean it is the guy. It was a joke, relax.

And how do we know you aren't this clown, posting on your account trying to finger other people to get the heat off you and keep people from looking at you!

Here is a word of advice. You may want to stay out of this cause now you are just starting stuff for attention. And I am not sure you want that.

 

[cgilmo]

I am out and gave been out most of the day. I will run ip addresses when I get home and take appropriate action.

In the mean time just know this. No one gets base level topps at 25 at release. This is an absolute truth and it applies to everyone no matter how much you buy.

 

[Original Boski]

Every time someone makes a post referencing the guy doesn't mean it is the guy. It was a joke, relax.

And how do we know you aren't this clown, posting on your account trying to finger other people to get the heat off you and keep people from looking at you!

Here is a word of advice. You may want to stay out of this cause now you are just starting stuff for attention. And I am not sure you want that.

And mine to you is that you lighten up a bit.

 

[Boylen33]

Can we get back to mama_bear**? I have some pertinent info that would be of interest.

 

[cgilmo]

Can we get back to mama_bear**? I have some pertinent info that would be of interest.

it's up to you man

if you got it, post it

 

[autorook]

All this mama_bear discussion is worrying me about pre-sells. Has anyone contacted ebay on the legitimacy of how many pre-sell lots one seller can post on ebay?

 

[Wes]

Can we get back to mama_bear**? I have some pertinent info that would be of interest.

it's up to you man

if you got it, post it

Ditto.

 

[tommyfro21]

I keep seeing people mention the legitimacy of some eBay seller's pre-sells and it made me think about this...

Back when Tickle-Me-Elmo, XBOX, and other desired Christmas toys were listed on eBay, people had to provide proof they had the items coming through a pre-sell or some other proof they had the item. I believe they had to post pictures of their receipts with personal info marked out for it to even be listed.

Does anyone else recall this type of thing? Perhaps it could be done with pre-sells for cases. Wouldn't work for singles or lots, but would work for cases and boxes.

Also, does eBay require this type of action for anything any more or was that just something they did years ago?

 

[SeattleSports]

Another negative came in. 2 four box cases.

Has anyone ever received a partial refund from them? I'm trying to figure out why... or what the justification is. I was just reading this thread on BO and here is what one person said from their experiences with mama_bear

Hey guys, new to the board. Just wanted to share my experience with mamabear on ebay. Hope the info is helpful. So I've purchased 9 cases from this seller in the past month and a half. This is a breakdown of my purchases!!!

Case Bowman Platinum purchased on 12/18 paid $800, received case on 1/17

Case SP Game Used hockey purchased on 12/17 paid $1000, $500 refund on 1/31

Case SP Game Used hockey purchased on 12/22 paid $920, received case on 1/28

Case SP Game Used hockey purchased on 12/23 paid $899.99, tracking says 2/3 deliv.

Case SP Game Used hockey purchased on 12/28 paid $899.99, received on 1/27

Case Bowman Sterling BB purchased on 12/17 paid $1400, $700 refund on 1/31

Case Bowman Sterling BB purchased on 12/22 paid $1050, TBD

Case Bowman Sterling BB purchased on 12/22 paid $1050.01, TBD

Case Bowman Sterling BB purchased on 12/23 paid $999.99, TBD

So it's pretty much been hit or miss!!! I've received some cases, got partial refunds on some items, and am still waiting on items before taking action. I most likely won't be receiving any other items from this seller and I don't see him being around much longer. His first of what may be many negative feedbacks regarding Sterling cases just popped up tonight. If I don't receive the other halves of my partial refunds, I also will be leaving negative feedback!! I can only imagine how many more people will be doing the same as I was one of the first people to buy and those who purchased cases the days and weeks after me will soon be in the same boat. Hope this info is helpful. Thanks for your time!!!

Has anyone here received a partial refund from him? And if so, what was the reasoning and why would people be content with that?

 

[bmc398]

I would never never never never ever take a partial refund.

Id send that **** back to him so fast his head would spin with a note that I am expecting the FULL amount in return.

My theory on the partial refund....his funds are running low and he doesnt want to wipe them out giving refunds.

The house of cards is one blow away. All the people who bought from him, have fun with the hassles of getting a partial refund!

 

[cmnkb8]

I would never never never never ever take a partial refund.

Id send that **** back to him so fast his head would spin with a note that I am expecting the FULL amount in return.

My theory on the partial refund....his funds are running low and he doesnt want to wipe them out giving refunds.

The house of cards is one blow away. All the people who bought from him, have fun with the hassles of getting a partial refund!

One call to the CC company takes care of that BS.

 

[cgilmo]

I would never never never never ever take a partial refund.

Id send that shat back to him so fast his head would spin with a note that I am expecting the FULL amount in return.

My theory on the partial refund....his funds are running low and he doesnt want to wipe them out giving refunds.

The house of cards is one blow away. All the people who bought from him, have fun with the hassles of getting a partial refund!

One call to the CC company takes care of that BS.

Not if the person paid with paypal balance.

 

[cmnkb8]

I would never never never never ever take a partial refund.

Id send that shat back to him so fast his head would spin with a note that I am expecting the FULL amount in return.

My theory on the partial refund....his funds are running low and he doesnt want to wipe them out giving refunds.

The house of cards is one blow away. All the people who bought from him, have fun with the hassles of getting a partial refund!

One call to the CC company takes care of that BS.

Not if the person paid with paypal balance.

Guess those people haven't heard of "let the buyer beware".

 

[bmc398]

I would never never never never ever take a partial refund.

Id send that shat back to him so fast his head would spin with a note that I am expecting the FULL amount in return.

My theory on the partial refund....his funds are running low and he doesnt want to wipe them out giving refunds.

The house of cards is one blow away. All the people who bought from him, have fun with the hassles of getting a partial refund!

One call to the CC company takes care of that BS.

Not if the person paid with paypal balance.

Guess those people haven't heard of "let the buyer beware".

The issue with the partial refund is this....A. I don't know how it works necessarily but its obvious the guy is doing it to buy time and maybe get a few more presale $$$ in from other products to give the full refund. He could be issuing the half refund on the hopes that when somebody files the claim and paypal looks into it they see that some form of refund was given and rule in his favor without questioning the amount. Of course, at some point that issue would be rectified but its just more time where he's got some of your money and you're stuck with the headache of trying to get ALL of it back.

And B. Good luck going to your credit card company requesting the full amount back when you have half of it sitting in your paypal account. Who looks like the fraud then? Visa would go after PP who would go after the seller which would be far from an automatic process. They then find out you got half the money back and then question why you're putting in a claim for the full amount.

 

[cmnkb8]

I would never never never never ever take a partial refund.

Id send that shat back to him so fast his head would spin with a note that I am expecting the FULL amount in return.

My theory on the partial refund....his funds are running low and he doesnt want to wipe them out giving refunds.

The house of cards is one blow away. All the people who bought from him, have fun with the hassles of getting a partial refund!

One call to the CC company takes care of that BS.

Not if the person paid with paypal balance.

Guess those people haven't heard of "let the buyer beware".

The issue with the partial refund is this....A. I don't know how it works necessarily but its obvious the guy is doing it to buy time and maybe get a few more presale $$$ in from other products to give the full refund. He could be issuing the half refund on the hopes that when somebody files the claim and paypal looks into it they see that some form of refund was given and rule in his favor without questioning the amount. Of course, at some point that issue would be rectified but its just more time where he's got some of your money and you're stuck with the headache of trying to get ALL of it back.

And B. Good luck going to your credit card company requesting the full amount back when you have half of it sitting in your paypal account. Who looks like the fraud then? Visa would go after PP who would go after the seller which would be far from an automatic process. They then find out you got half the money back and then question why you're putting in a claim for the full amount.

I don't know about you, but I've had a seller try and dick me over in the past by giving a partial (85%) refund on a damaged item I returned even though he agreed to a full refund. He tried to take 15% as a "restocking fee" (despite never mentioning that prior to my return of the item). I called my CC company and explained that I never accepted a partial refund as a resolution since I didn't get what I paid for. I told them the amount that was refunded, and the amount I paid. The CC company reviewed their records, and within 5 days my card was credited for the remaining amount. I never had to talk to paypal. Just spent 15 min on the phone with my card issuer. CC's tend to side with their cardholders most of the time, granted you are not one that frequently opens disputes. I'd imagine disputes over partial refunds aren't as uncommon as you think.

 

[bmc398]

[quote="bmc398":3arkwmhn]I would never never never never ever take a partial refund.

Id send that shat back to him so fast his head would spin with a note that I am expecting the FULL amount in return.

My theory on the partial refund....his funds are running low and he doesnt want to wipe them out giving refunds.

The house of cards is one blow away. All the people who bought from him, have fun with the hassles of getting a partial refund!

One call to the CC company takes care of that BS.

Not if the person paid with paypal balance.

Guess those people haven't heard of "let the buyer beware".

The issue with the partial refund is this....A. I don't know how it works necessarily but its obvious the guy is doing it to buy time and maybe get a few more presale $$$ in from other products to give the full refund. He could be issuing the half refund on the hopes that when somebody files the claim and paypal looks into it they see that some form of refund was given and rule in his favor without questioning the amount. Of course, at some point that issue would be rectified but its just more time where he's got some of your money and you're stuck with the headache of trying to get ALL of it back.

And B. Good luck going to your credit card company requesting the full amount back when you have half of it sitting in your paypal account. Who looks like the fraud then? Visa would go after PP who would go after the seller which would be far from an automatic process. They then find out you got half the money back and then question why you're putting in a claim for the full amount.

I don't know about you, but I've had a seller try and dick me over in the past by giving a partial (85%) refund on a damaged item I returned even though he agreed to a full refund. He tried to take 15% as a "restocking fee" (despite never mentioning that prior to my return of the item). I called my CC company and explained that I never accepted a partial refund as a resolution since I didn't get what I paid for. I told them the amount that was refunded, and the amount I paid. The CC company reviewed their records, and within 5 days my card was credited for the remaining amount. I never had to talk to paypal. Just spent 15 min on the phone with my card issuer. CC's tend to side with their cardholders most of the time, granted you are not one that frequently opens disputes. I'd imagine disputes over partial refunds aren't as uncommon as you think.[/quote:3arkwmhn]

Yeah I've never had a refund so I was jsut posing a what if. Just seems too messy to me...and id rather not be in this situation in the first place than have to worry about jumping through hoops to get my money back. I don't have any issue with the people who bought early from this guy but the fact that people continued to buy from him after it was well known he was shorting and then buying above even retail should have been a huge red flag to not give this guy another dime, especially on Sterling. I mean, who's money is he buying it with....most likely its the guy who bought after you and won't be getting his case. Greed at the expense of others is not a quality id like to have. You may not immediately realize thats what you're doing but taking the attitude of "I don't care how he pays for it....but as long as I get it i'm in the $$$" isn't the right one to have as you are just helping this guy string others along.

I like my money and really dislike being apart from it....or having to make phone calls to get it back....and really dislike giving interest free loans to strangers.