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This is as good as I've gotten a Crusade to scan:

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donrusscrusademan said:
jarcar said:
Newest pickups

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Cool magnet thingy
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3rd one down is an insert? I have one of those, thought it was just a base

First Day Issue? They were inserted at a rate of one per box, on average. So definitely not base :)
 

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gwynn5453l4u said:
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Wow! You peeled a mirror black? I'd never have the balls! Great card but not so sure I'd have peeled it. It may eventually be released back into the hobby again and now its not necessarily complete. In any case...nice to see a PC guy snag that big of a whale!

I couldn't wait to peel that ugly thing off! It's so distracting. I'ma peel till I keel! It's actually quite liberating; you should try it :)

My opinion is quite opposite. I can't stand these without the peel. They just don't look right and the design is surprisingly bland w/o the peel. It was bad enough peeling a base card but I wanted to know how it felt.

I agree. (Not that there is anything wrong with peeling!!)
To me, taking the peel off of a card is like opening a starting line-up figure out of it's package. Yes, you still have it, but it's not in it's original state!


Eh...that's my take as well. Especially when you are looking at low numbered copies(some as low as /1) you have to be aware that one day...the card will leave your possession. And at that point...you have altered it to your satisfaction thereby keeping it from being complete. Cards that aren't rare...who cares. Cards that are super rare...I just won't do it. I won't say anyone is wrong for doing so. I mean...it is YOURS. It would be kind of dumb to say "Oh...hey you can't do that". But at the same time...I don't know...maybe I am just weird for thinking this but its like I feel rare things should be kept as in good of shape and original shape as possible. Its not just yours but also the hobby's and the hobby is much bigger than one person's wants or desires.
 

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I agree about the dislike for peeling... BUT... it is likely the only one out there. A potential buyer is unlikely to say, "I'm not interested because it's peeled."
 

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Jastermereel said:
I agree about the dislike for peeling... BUT... it is likely the only one out there. A potential buyer is unlikely to say, "I'm not interested because it's peeled."

I've done that if it was raw. I don't want to buy a Mirror Blue/Red/Gold already peeled and then have it arrive in the mail with surface scratches. Graded would be another story; at least then you know there's minimal, if any, damage done to the card.
 

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Grading is interesting here because sometimes the label will say peeled, but other times it won't. IMO if its been peeled it should say so on the label.

For what its worth I happen to prefer unpeeled even if it looks better peeled, the card seems 'whole' with the peel.

Philip J. Fry said:
Jastermereel said:
I agree about the dislike for peeling... BUT... it is likely the only one out there. A potential buyer is unlikely to say, "I'm not interested because it's peeled."

I've done that if it was raw. I don't want to buy a Mirror Blue/Red/Gold already peeled and then have it arrive in the mail with surface scratches. Graded would be another story; at least then you know there's minimal, if any, damage done to the card.
 

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uniquebaseballcards said:
Grading is interesting here because sometimes the label will say peeled, but other times it won't. IMO if its been peeled it should say so on the label.

For what its worth I happen to prefer unpeeled even if it looks better peeled, the card seems 'whole' with the peel.

Philip J. Fry said:
Jastermereel said:
I agree about the dislike for peeling... BUT... it is likely the only one out there. A potential buyer is unlikely to say, "I'm not interested because it's peeled."

I've done that if it was raw. I don't want to buy a Mirror Blue/Red/Gold already peeled and then have it arrive in the mail with surface scratches. Graded would be another story; at least then you know there's minimal, if any, damage done to the card.

PSA did away with the "Unpeeled" notation several years ago. 1997 Pinnacle is the set I peel, mainly since the peels always start to give way at the corners. I NEVER peel 1996 Mirrors even though it will improve the overall grade due to surface condition.
 

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Jastermereel said:
I agree about the dislike for peeling... BUT... it is likely the only one out there. A potential buyer is unlikely to say, "I'm not interested because it's peeled."


True but it would be like me peeling the autograph sticker off of a Jeff Bagwell 1/1 simply because the sticker was placed crooked and I didn't like it. Yeah its still the only copy and yeah somebody would probably still want it but now you have taken an integral part of the card away. Perhaps an auto compared to a peel sticker is a wee bit extreme but they are all part of the card. You know why its even a problem? Because people don't protect the damn cards to begin with.

I am not going to say people can't do what they want but I wish people would take some care to protect cards. If I had a penny for every show or shop I have been to where stuff numbered very low(as low as /10) wasn't even in a penny sleeve, I'd be a rich man. People should take more care.
 

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George_Calfas said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
Grading is interesting here because sometimes the label will say peeled, but other times it won't. IMO if its been peeled it should say so on the label.

For what its worth I happen to prefer unpeeled even if it looks better peeled, the card seems 'whole' with the peel.

[quote="Philip J. Fry":bgmudtmx]
Jastermereel said:
I agree about the dislike for peeling... BUT... it is likely the only one out there. A potential buyer is unlikely to say, "I'm not interested because it's peeled."

I've done that if it was raw. I don't want to buy a Mirror Blue/Red/Gold already peeled and then have it arrive in the mail with surface scratches. Graded would be another story; at least then you know there's minimal, if any, damage done to the card.

PSA did away with the "Unpeeled" notation several years ago. 1997 Pinnacle is the set I peel, mainly since the peels always start to give way at the corners. I NEVER peel 1996 Mirrors even though it will improve the overall grade due to surface condition.[/quote:bgmudtmx]

Yeah and if you aren't careful with the topps finest and bowman chrome, they fog all up and look quite nasty. My only idea is to just keep everything in protection and don't handle it outside said protection. Yet I've seen this disregarded quite a bit.
 

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predatorkj said:
George_Calfas said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
Grading is interesting here because sometimes the label will say peeled, but other times it won't. IMO if its been peeled it should say so on the label.

For what its worth I happen to prefer unpeeled even if it looks better peeled, the card seems 'whole' with the peel.

[quote="Philip J. Fry":3izt6j2c]
Jastermereel said:
I agree about the dislike for peeling... BUT... it is likely the only one out there. A potential buyer is unlikely to say, "I'm not interested because it's peeled."

I've done that if it was raw. I don't want to buy a Mirror Blue/Red/Gold already peeled and then have it arrive in the mail with surface scratches. Graded would be another story; at least then you know there's minimal, if any, damage done to the card.

PSA did away with the "Unpeeled" notation several years ago. 1997 Pinnacle is the set I peel, mainly since the peels always start to give way at the corners. I NEVER peel 1996 Mirrors even though it will improve the overall grade due to surface condition.

Yeah and if you aren't careful with the topps finest and bowman chrome, they fog all up and look quite nasty. My only idea is to just keep everything in protection and don't handle it outside said protection. Yet I've seen this disregarded quite a bit.[/quote:3izt6j2c]

Regarding the Finest...

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predatorkj said:
Jastermereel said:
I agree about the dislike for peeling... BUT... it is likely the only one out there. A potential buyer is unlikely to say, "I'm not interested because it's peeled."


True but it would be like me peeling the autograph sticker off of a Jeff Bagwell 1/1 simply because the sticker was placed crooked and I didn't like it. Yeah its still the only copy and yeah somebody would probably still want it but now you have taken an integral part of the card away. Perhaps an auto compared to a peel sticker is a wee bit extreme but they are all part of the card. You know why its even a problem? Because people don't protect the damn cards to begin with.

I am not going to say people can't do what they want but I wish people would take some care to protect cards. If I had a penny for every show or shop I have been to where stuff numbered very low(as low as /10) wasn't even in a penny sleeve, I'd be a rich man. People should take more care.

Like I say, I would NEVER peel the card myself (unless the peel was severely disfigured or something), but on important 1/1's it wouldn't influence what I'd be willing to pay for it too much.

Also, comparing the auto w/ a peel is pretty absurd since the peels were intended by Pinnacle to be peeled off.
 
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