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good points all. I'm on the the West Coast and still drinking coffee to wake up.
 
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gradedeflator said:
I've always wondered if there are more than 240. I'm not an expert on the 93 refractors, I remember them coming out when I was still collecting but I could never afford a box of Finest, and then only recently got back into the hobby in the last 2 years.

when i've looked at the PSA pop report (which I know is not 100% accurate), some refractors have extremely high pops--eg, Frank Thomas has had 239 graded refractors, Mike Piazza has had 224, etc.

http://www.psacard.com/pop/Detail.aspx?c=36295

I don't think I saw any player with >240, but if anyone knows of more than 2 raw Thomas refractors maybe we have our answer?
Here's my 2.
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The Andre Dawson hoarding his '93 Refractors is just some sort of strange baseball card collecting "urban legend".

There is positively nothing to substaniate the story.

Most importantly you will have no problem picking up a 1993 Finest Refractor Dawson.

Jimmy Key and Orel Hershiser are cards you will pay a premium for due to hoarding.

I guess I am a liar.
 

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George_Calfas said:
saucywombat said:
The Andre Dawson hoarding his '93 Refractors is just some sort of strange baseball card collecting "urban legend".

There is positively nothing to substaniate the story.

Most importantly you will have no problem picking up a 1993 Finest Refractor Dawson.

Jimmy Key and Orel Hershiser are cards you will pay a premium for due to hoarding.

I guess I am a liar.

Uh, maybe not a liar, but you are the spreader-of-urban-legends...didn't you tell me that you had weird pictures of your toothbrush on your camera after leaving the camera in the hotel room? Also, it was you that had a "friend" die from Pop Rocks and Coca-cola, wasn't it? :D :D
 

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Gwynn545 said:
George_Calfas said:
saucywombat said:
The Andre Dawson hoarding his '93 Refractors is just some sort of strange baseball card collecting "urban legend".

There is positively nothing to substaniate the story.

Most importantly you will have no problem picking up a 1993 Finest Refractor Dawson.

Jimmy Key and Orel Hershiser are cards you will pay a premium for due to hoarding.

I guess I am a liar.

Uh, maybe not a liar, but you are the spreader-of-urban-legends...didn't you tell me that you had weird pictures of your toothbrush on your camera after leaving the camera in the hotel room? Also, it was you that had a "friend" die from Pop Rocks and Coca-cola, wasn't it? :D :D

I have also seen the Blair Witch.
 

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Just got this in the mail today; I still need two more versions but at least the hardest is out of the way.

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Nice! The #'d/100 was the last one I got...
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Starting to break up my Kruk / Dykstra / Daulton collection. Is there anything worth having of these guys and making some $ on eBay other than the 93 Refractor FInests?
 

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Bob Loblaw said:
Starting to break up my Kruk / Dykstra / Daulton collection. Is there anything worth having of these guys and making some $ on eBay other than the 93 Refractor FInests?

1996 Mirror Golds
 

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Who knows about the 1998 Leaf Fractal Matrix Die-cuts? Beckett says the following but it seems to claim there are 3 cards each with 3 finishes? Are some people collect their guy in all finishes like topps tek? Beckett says the Belle is #/3500, so that something isn't adding up. Thanks...

"Randomly inserted in packs, this 200-card set is parallel to the regular set and features three different die-cut versions in three different finishes. Only 100 of the set are produced in the x-axis cut with 75 of those bronze, 20 silver, and five gold. Only 60 are available in the type y-axis cut with 20 of those bronze, 30 silver, and 10 gold. Only 40 are produced in the z-axis cut with five bronze, 10 silver and 25 gold. No card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version. Card number 42 does not exist."
 

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mansgame said:
Who knows about the 1998 Leaf Fractal Matrix Die-cuts? Beckett says the following but it seems to claim there are 3 cards each with 3 finishes? Are some people collect their guy in all finishes like topps tek? Beckett says the Belle is #/3500, so that something isn't adding up. Thanks...

"Randomly inserted in packs, this 200-card set is parallel to the regular set and features three different die-cut versions in three different finishes. Only 100 of the set are produced in the x-axis cut with 75 of those bronze, 20 silver, and five gold. Only 60 are available in the type y-axis cut with 20 of those bronze, 30 silver, and 10 gold. Only 40 are produced in the z-axis cut with five bronze, 10 silver and 25 gold. No card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version. Card number 42 does not exist."

It sounds like you are thinking that each card is available in all three finishes. Each card is only available in one finish. Note the line: "no card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version."

So for Rusty Greer, for example, he is card number one and there's the base, fractal matrix gold, fractal matrix die-cut gold, and diamond axis.
 

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RustyGreerFan said:
mansgame said:
Who knows about the 1998 Leaf Fractal Matrix Die-cuts? Beckett says the following but it seems to claim there are 3 cards each with 3 finishes? Are some people collect their guy in all finishes like topps tek? Beckett says the Belle is #/3500, so that something isn't adding up. Thanks...

"Randomly inserted in packs, this 200-card set is parallel to the regular set and features three different die-cut versions in three different finishes. Only 100 of the set are produced in the x-axis cut with 75 of those bronze, 20 silver, and five gold. Only 60 are available in the type y-axis cut with 20 of those bronze, 30 silver, and 10 gold. Only 40 are produced in the z-axis cut with five bronze, 10 silver and 25 gold. No card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version. Card number 42 does not exist."

It sounds like you are thinking that each card is available in all three finishes. Each card is only available in one finish. Note the line: "no card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version."

So for Rusty Greer, for example, he is card number one and there's the base, fractal matrix gold, fractal matrix die-cut gold, and diamond axis.
Yea this does confuse me. My Albert Belle checklist has him as #160 and there are a total of 9 cards listed? I will have to do some more due diligence later I guess.
 
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RustyGreerFan said:
mansgame said:
Who knows about the 1998 Leaf Fractal Matrix Die-cuts? Beckett says the following but it seems to claim there are 3 cards each with 3 finishes? Are some people collect their guy in all finishes like topps tek? Beckett says the Belle is #/3500, so that something isn't adding up. Thanks...

"Randomly inserted in packs, this 200-card set is parallel to the regular set and features three different die-cut versions in three different finishes. Only 100 of the set are produced in the x-axis cut with 75 of those bronze, 20 silver, and five gold. Only 60 are available in the type y-axis cut with 20 of those bronze, 30 silver, and 10 gold. Only 40 are produced in the z-axis cut with five bronze, 10 silver and 25 gold. No card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version. Card number 42 does not exist."

It sounds like you are thinking that each card is available in all three finishes. Each card is only available in one finish. Note the line: "no card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version."

So for Rusty Greer, for example, he is card number one and there's the base, fractal matrix gold, fractal matrix die-cut gold, and diamond axis.
Are the fractal matrix golds #/100. I think Beckett lists them as that but other people have told me different.
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edit:Thanks mines a X-Axis #/100 then.
 

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bustin_knuckles said:
RustyGreerFan said:
mansgame said:
Who knows about the 1998 Leaf Fractal Matrix Die-cuts? Beckett says the following but it seems to claim there are 3 cards each with 3 finishes? Are some people collect their guy in all finishes like topps tek? Beckett says the Belle is #/3500, so that something isn't adding up. Thanks...

"Randomly inserted in packs, this 200-card set is parallel to the regular set and features three different die-cut versions in three different finishes. Only 100 of the set are produced in the x-axis cut with 75 of those bronze, 20 silver, and five gold. Only 60 are available in the type y-axis cut with 20 of those bronze, 30 silver, and 10 gold. Only 40 are produced in the z-axis cut with five bronze, 10 silver and 25 gold. No card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version. Card number 42 does not exist."

It sounds like you are thinking that each card is available in all three finishes. Each card is only available in one finish. Note the line: "no card is available in more than one color nor in more than one die-cut version."

So for Rusty Greer, for example, he is card number one and there's the base, fractal matrix gold, fractal matrix die-cut gold, and diamond axis.
Are the fractal matrix golds #/100. I think Beckett lists them as that but other people have told me different.

Excellent question. I always go to baseballcardpedia.com when trying to remember what the deal is. You'll find a chart about 3/4 of the way down: http://baseballcardpedia.com/index.php/1998_Leaf

So, yes and no. Fractal Matrix Gold X-Axis have a stated print run of 100. And Fractal Matrix Gold Z-Axis Die-Cuts have a stated print run of 100. Everything else has a greater print run.

AFAIK there have not been any indications that these cards were produced more than the stated print runs (like 97 Pinnacle Certified Mirrors).
 

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