PLEA TO THE COMMISH THIS IS WRONG

[ru4scuba]

I don't think anyone cares about them winning a championship or not.Thats not the point of this argument.At least not for everyone.The point is this has gotten out of control.Oh...and the players union will do whatever the owners say they will because if they don't...the players themselves are the ones that will lose the money.I think your getting mixed up here hoss.The tail does not wag the dog.

I just don't understand why people care what they spend. The Yankees are a profitable business and the team is their product (one of many at least). Why shouldn't they reinvest in the team?

They should.I would never argue that.But not to this degree is all I am saying.Come on.Your a logical person.Surely you could agree to that?

I'm a fan of a small market team and I honestly don't care. I can see the other side of the coin, but for now I haven't seen any ramifications of the Yankees spending sprees of the last few years. Maybe if they had a smarter GM I would be a little more worried.

 

[Sly]

I don't think anyone cares about them winning a championship or not.Thats not the point of this argument.At least not for everyone.The point is this has gotten out of control.Oh...and the players union will do whatever the owners say they will because if they don't...the players themselves are the ones that will lose the money.I think your getting mixed up here hoss.The tail does not wag the dog.

I just don't understand why people care what they spend. The Yankees are a profitable business and the team is their product (one of many at least). Why shouldn't they reinvest in the team?

They should.I would never argue that.But not to this degree is all I am saying.Come on.Your a logical person.Surely you could agree to that?

To "what" degree? It is THEIR money, and they are willing to spend it. It's no different than Microsoft spending their money to improve Windows, or for any other company to improve their product. And you use the money that is at their disposal to do so.

This is marketing at it's finest.

Anyone who knows anything about business can understand this. If it backfires on them, and they don't win the World Series, they to them that's a failure...but guess what in the end, the fans will sell out every game, they will bring in a crapload of money.

From a fiscal-front, it'll be a win. This is a business.

I'm not understanding what this "degree" is that they're spending THEIR money that is wrong.

Eh...I give up.This is exactly the kind of thinking that got the economy in the mess its in.The part about passing down increasing costs anyway.If they end up charging more and the players keep making more in leaps and bounds...this will collapse.Smart business?Yeah right.Its called stupidity.

No, what put this economy in the place it is, is people spending outside their means, and not being able to afford what they buy, and not paying off their debts.

The Yankees spend within their means. They pay their bills. They pay their players.

 

[predatorkj]

If a lockout is what it takes...I as a baseball fan would be all for it.I am sure the owners would do so also if they felt it would really change things.Especially since they would know that it might help them acquire more players that are of all star caliber and would thereby increase ticket sales and whatnot.

You may accept it, but a LOT of fans would not.

A strike or lock-out would DESTROY baseball at this point.

Says who.I am sure a lot of fans could agree that if it meant lowering the salary of players and lower ticket prices...you tell me they wouldn't be for it.Now this is getting nuts.You know how many people I hear are upset about ticket prices as they are now.

They had a big outcry over the fact that Drayton McClane of the Houston Astros said he wouldn't be raising the prices of tickets due to the economy.Everybody I heard was like What the Hell?They shouldn't be raising them anyway.It already costs way too much to go to the game as it is.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

[quote="trevordchi":3h4bpcrd][quote="tonyrios":3h4bpcrd][quote="predatorkj":3h4bpcrd][quote="tonyrios":3h4bpcrd]And for the record, I went to over 5 Yankee games last year, each ticket LESS than 20$. It costs me more to get to the stadium and back than buying the ticket.
It'll be the same this year.

You sure about that?

Yes, I'm sure about that. You see, the thing is, I live in New York and you don't.

The thing is, we all have the internet and can easily find out that the only $20 tickets are in the OF in the Upper Deck.

Anything in the lower level is $100+ and closer to $200 in the infield.

Dangit Trev...I was waiting for him to be smart enough to figure that out!!! :lol:

well were ever the ticket is i would rather be far away watching the yanks instead of up close watching the astros...[/quote:3h4bpcrd]


See...there is no call for that.I never even said I wouldn't like to go to a yankees game.Why are you trying to turn this into a debate about my team.Thats pretty trollish buddy.[/quote:3h4bpcrd]

no not trollish, you are just stating your point on how you dont think its fair that the yankees are spending that kind of money and im just stating my point i would rather pay more to watch the yankees instead of the astros...[/quote:3h4bpcrd]


Actually I don't think its smart.Not anything else.Just not smart.

As for the astros comment.You were being a smartass.Plain and simple.[/quote:3h4bpcrd]

So you would complain about this spending spree if it was the astros getting all these free agents right....You would not go to the games just based on principle right.....NOOOO STOP WHINING

 

[ru4scuba]

Eh...I give up.This is exactly the kind of thinking that got the economy in the mess its in.The part about passing down increasing costs anyway.If they end up charging more and the players keep making more in leaps and bounds...this will collapse.Smart business?Yeah right.Its called stupidity.

No one is forcing a gun to anyone's head making them buy tickets. Going to a baseball game is still significantly cheaper than going to an NFL, NBA, or NHL game.

 

[predatorkj]

[quote="predatorkj":f1wibeo5]I don't think anyone cares about them winning a championship or not.Thats not the point of this argument.At least not for everyone.The point is this has gotten out of control.Oh...and the players union will do whatever the owners say they will because if they don't...the players themselves are the ones that will lose the money.I think your getting mixed up here hoss.The tail does not wag the dog.

I just don't understand why people care what they spend. The Yankees are a profitable business and the team is their product (one of many at least). Why shouldn't they reinvest in the team?

They should.I would never argue that.But not to this degree is all I am saying.Come on.Your a logical person.Surely you could agree to that?

To "what" degree? It is THEIR money, and they are willing to spend it. It's no different than Microsoft spending their money to improve Windows, or for any other company to improve their product. And you use the money that is at their disposal to do so.

This is marketing at it's finest.

Anyone who knows anything about business can understand this. If it backfires on them, and they don't win the World Series, they to them that's a failure...but guess what in the end, the fans will sell out every game, they will bring in a crapload of money.

From a fiscal-front, it'll be a win. This is a business.

I'm not understanding what this "degree" is that they're spending THEIR money that is wrong.

Eh...I give up.This is exactly the kind of thinking that got the economy in the mess its in.The part about passing down increasing costs anyway.If they end up charging more and the players keep making more in leaps and bounds...this will collapse.Smart business?Yeah right.Its called stupidity.

No, what put this economy in the place it is, is people spending outside their means, and not being able to afford what they buy, and not paying off their debts.

The Yankees spend within their means. They pay their bills. They pay their players.[/quote:f1wibeo5]


If they expect the money to come from the fans then no...they are not spending within their means.This will eventually crumble.

 

[predatorkj]

[quote="predatorkj":9v2zyuqx][quote="trevordchi":9v2zyuqx][quote="tonyrios":9v2zyuqx][quote="predatorkj":9v2zyuqx][quote="tonyrios":9v2zyuqx]And for the record, I went to over 5 Yankee games last year, each ticket LESS than 20$. It costs me more to get to the stadium and back than buying the ticket.
It'll be the same this year.

You sure about that?

Yes, I'm sure about that. You see, the thing is, I live in New York and you don't.

The thing is, we all have the internet and can easily find out that the only $20 tickets are in the OF in the Upper Deck.

Anything in the lower level is $100+ and closer to $200 in the infield.

Dangit Trev...I was waiting for him to be smart enough to figure that out!!! :lol:

well were ever the ticket is i would rather be far away watching the yanks instead of up close watching the astros...[/quote:9v2zyuqx]


See...there is no call for that.I never even said I wouldn't like to go to a yankees game.Why are you trying to turn this into a debate about my team.Thats pretty trollish buddy.[/quote:9v2zyuqx]

no not trollish, you are just stating your point on how you dont think its fair that the yankees are spending that kind of money and im just stating my point i would rather pay more to watch the yankees instead of the astros...[/quote:9v2zyuqx]


Actually I don't think its smart.Not anything else.Just not smart.

As for the astros comment.You were being a smartass.Plain and simple.[/quote:9v2zyuqx]

So you would complain about this spending spree if it was the astros getting all these free agents right....You would not go to the games just based on principle right.....NOOOO STOP WHINING[/quote:9v2zyuqx]


Dude...I probably wouldn't be able to afford to go to the games.Can you understand that.I certainly wouldn't be for it if I knew I was going to pay more than I already do.Maybe you just like to argue and stir up a mess.

 

[Sly]

If a lockout is what it takes...I as a baseball fan would be all for it.I am sure the owners would do so also if they felt it would really change things.Especially since they would know that it might help them acquire more players that are of all star caliber and would thereby increase ticket sales and whatnot.

You may accept it, but a LOT of fans would not.

A strike or lock-out would DESTROY baseball at this point.

Says who.I am sure a lot of fans could agree that if it meant lowering the salary of players and lower ticket prices...you tell me they wouldn't be for it.Now this is getting nuts.You know how many people I hear are upset about ticket prices as they are now.

They had a big outcry over the fact that Drayton McClane of the Houston Astros said he wouldn't be raising the prices of tickets due to the economy.Everybody I heard was like What the Hell?They shouldn't be raising them anyway.It already costs way too much to go to the game as it is.

Where would capped salaries immediately mean lower ticket prices??

The passing of times means prices go up. Owners will ALWAYS find a reason to increase ticket prices.

While a salary cap make make the prices stagnant for a year or two, they'd go up soon after. A cap would not lower prices. You really think that an owner is going to come out and say..."now that we've got a cap, we're going to LOWER ticket pricess?"

No way. People pay the prices now, they will continue pay prices when they go up, why lower them?

Ticket prices will go up regardless...football has a cap, ticket prices go up. Basketball I believe has a cap, prices go up. Baseball will be no different.

 

[predatorkj]

Eh...I give up.This is exactly the kind of thinking that got the economy in the mess its in.The part about passing down increasing costs anyway.If they end up charging more and the players keep making more in leaps and bounds...this will collapse.Smart business?Yeah right.Its called stupidity.

No one is forcing a gun to anyone's head making them buy tickets. Going to a baseball game is still significantly cheaper than going to an NFL, NBA, or NHL game.

Good point.You know how many of those games I go to?1 a year and its football.You know how many baseball games I go to a year?About 10-12.If the tickets start rising because the astros have to spend a billion dollars on joe schmoe from wherever...I probably won't be able to go to as many games as I do.And if the trend continues upward...it will be less and less until its nothing more than watching at home.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

[quote="KOBEARODLT":2g1m0iba][quote="predatorkj":2g1m0iba][quote="trevordchi":2g1m0iba][quote="tonyrios":2g1m0iba][quote="predatorkj":2g1m0iba][quote="tonyrios":2g1m0iba]And for the record, I went to over 5 Yankee games last year, each ticket LESS than 20$. It costs me more to get to the stadium and back than buying the ticket.
It'll be the same this year.

You sure about that?

Yes, I'm sure about that. You see, the thing is, I live in New York and you don't.

The thing is, we all have the internet and can easily find out that the only $20 tickets are in the OF in the Upper Deck.

Anything in the lower level is $100+ and closer to $200 in the infield.

Dangit Trev...I was waiting for him to be smart enough to figure that out!!! :lol:

well were ever the ticket is i would rather be far away watching the yanks instead of up close watching the astros...[/quote:2g1m0iba]


See...there is no call for that.I never even said I wouldn't like to go to a yankees game.Why are you trying to turn this into a debate about my team.Thats pretty trollish buddy.[/quote:2g1m0iba]

no not trollish, you are just stating your point on how you dont think its fair that the yankees are spending that kind of money and im just stating my point i would rather pay more to watch the yankees instead of the astros...[/quote:2g1m0iba]


Actually I don't think its smart.Not anything else.Just not smart.

As for the astros comment.You were being a smartass.Plain and simple.[/quote:2g1m0iba]

So you would complain about this spending spree if it was the astros getting all these free agents right....You would not go to the games just based on principle right.....NOOOO STOP WHINING[/quote:2g1m0iba]


Dude...I probably wouldn't be able to afford to go to the games.Can you understand that.I certainly wouldn't be for it if I knew I was going to pay more than I already do.Maybe you just like to argue and stir up a mess.[/quote:2g1m0iba]

so you wouldnt just buy seats that cost less...or are you to good for that?

 

[predatorkj]

If a lockout is what it takes...I as a baseball fan would be all for it.I am sure the owners would do so also if they felt it would really change things.Especially since they would know that it might help them acquire more players that are of all star caliber and would thereby increase ticket sales and whatnot.

You may accept it, but a LOT of fans would not.

A strike or lock-out would DESTROY baseball at this point.

Says who.I am sure a lot of fans could agree that if it meant lowering the salary of players and lower ticket prices...you tell me they wouldn't be for it.Now this is getting nuts.You know how many people I hear are upset about ticket prices as they are now.

They had a big outcry over the fact that Drayton McClane of the Houston Astros said he wouldn't be raising the prices of tickets due to the economy.Everybody I heard was like What the Hell?They shouldn't be raising them anyway.It already costs way too much to go to the game as it is.

Where would capped salaries immediately mean lower ticket prices??

The passing of times means prices go up. Owners will ALWAYS find a reason to increase ticket prices.

While a salary cap make make the prices stagnant for a year or two, they'd go up soon after. A cap would not lower prices. You really think that an owner is going to come out and say..."now that we've got a cap, we're going to LOWER ticket pricess?"

No way. People pay the prices now, they will continue pay prices when they go up, why lower them?

Ticket prices will go up regardless...football has a cap, ticket prices go up. Basketball I believe has a cap, prices go up. Baseball will be no different.

I already told you what I thought would happen.If the prices increase(even with what your saying-for no particular reason) the fans will not be able to attend as many games.A sellout will not be as common for any games.And the attendance drop will happen.Trust me.

I think lowering the salaries of already overpaid players will help this along.Plain and simple.

 

[predatorkj]

[quote="predatorkj":3gozum8c][quote="KOBEARODLT":3gozum8c][quote="predatorkj":3gozum8c][quote="trevordchi":3gozum8c][quote="tonyrios":3gozum8c][quote="predatorkj":3gozum8c][quote="tonyrios":3gozum8c]And for the record, I went to over 5 Yankee games last year, each ticket LESS than 20$. It costs me more to get to the stadium and back than buying the ticket.
It'll be the same this year.

You sure about that?

Yes, I'm sure about that. You see, the thing is, I live in New York and you don't.

The thing is, we all have the internet and can easily find out that the only $20 tickets are in the OF in the Upper Deck.

Anything in the lower level is $100+ and closer to $200 in the infield.

Dangit Trev...I was waiting for him to be smart enough to figure that out!!! :lol:

well were ever the ticket is i would rather be far away watching the yanks instead of up close watching the astros...[/quote:3gozum8c]


See...there is no call for that.I never even said I wouldn't like to go to a yankees game.Why are you trying to turn this into a debate about my team.Thats pretty trollish buddy.[/quote:3gozum8c]

no not trollish, you are just stating your point on how you dont think its fair that the yankees are spending that kind of money and im just stating my point i would rather pay more to watch the yankees instead of the astros...[/quote:3gozum8c]


Actually I don't think its smart.Not anything else.Just not smart.

As for the astros comment.You were being a smartass.Plain and simple.[/quote:3gozum8c]

So you would complain about this spending spree if it was the astros getting all these free agents right....You would not go to the games just based on principle right.....NOOOO STOP WHINING[/quote:3gozum8c]


Dude...I probably wouldn't be able to afford to go to the games.Can you understand that.I certainly wouldn't be for it if I knew I was going to pay more than I already do.Maybe you just like to argue and stir up a mess.[/quote:3gozum8c]

so you wouldn't just buy seats that cost less...or are you to good for that?[/quote:3gozum8c]


It would depend on what they went for.But for the most part...no.I wouldn't like to go to a game where I couldn't hardly see what the hell was going on.Its not very fun for me or my wife.I wouldn't call it being too good.Lets just say I like to actually be able to watch the game without feeling like I am a million miles away.

 

[Billy Packer]

I don't think anyone cares about them winning a championship or not.Thats not the point of this argument.At least not for everyone.The point is this has gotten out of control.Oh...and the players union will do whatever the owners say they will because if they don't...the players themselves are the ones that will lose the money.I think your getting mixed up here hoss.The tail does not wag the dog.

I just don't understand why people care what they spend. The Yankees are a profitable business and the team is their product (one of many at least). Why shouldn't they reinvest in the team?

They should.I would never argue that.But not to this degree is all I am saying.Come on.Your a logical person.Surely you could agree to that?

To "what" degree? It is THEIR money, and they are willing to spend it. It's no different than Microsoft spending their money to improve Windows, or for any other company to improve their product. And you use the money that is at their disposal to do so.

This is marketing at it's finest.

Anyone who knows anything about business can understand this. If it backfires on them, and they don't win the World Series, they to them that's a failure...but guess what in the end, the fans will sell out every game, they will bring in a crapload of money.

From a fiscal-front, it'll be a win. This is a business.

I'm not understanding what this "degree" is that they're spending THEIR money that is wrong.

Eh...I give up.This is exactly the kind of thinking that got the economy in the mess its in.The part about passing down increasing costs anyway.If they end up charging more and the players keep making more in leaps and bounds...this will collapse.Smart business?Yeah right.Its called stupidity.

This is absolutely correct. the argument above assumes that the Yankees are truly competing in an open marketplace, independant of their competitors. But in reality, they are part of a closed system. They need to balance their desire to win (or even perhaps dominate) with the realization that they need their competitors to be strong and healthy or they themselves will die.

What good does spending all the money in the world do them if they drive their competition out of business? And that's where this unfettered ability to spend money is driving baseball. The NFL recognized this a long time ago. George Halas realized he needed the Green Bay Packers and other small market teams to be healthy in order for the Bears to survive. The Yankees and the rest of baseball better figure this out pretty quick or major league baseball as we know it will cease to exist.

 

[Sly]

If a lockout is what it takes...I as a baseball fan would be all for it.I am sure the owners would do so also if they felt it would really change things.Especially since they would know that it might help them acquire more players that are of all star caliber and would thereby increase ticket sales and whatnot.

You may accept it, but a LOT of fans would not.

A strike or lock-out would DESTROY baseball at this point.

Says who.I am sure a lot of fans could agree that if it meant lowering the salary of players and lower ticket prices...you tell me they wouldn't be for it.Now this is getting nuts.You know how many people I hear are upset about ticket prices as they are now.

They had a big outcry over the fact that Drayton McClane of the Houston Astros said he wouldn't be raising the prices of tickets due to the economy.Everybody I heard was like What the Hell?They shouldn't be raising them anyway.It already costs way too much to go to the game as it is.

Where would capped salaries immediately mean lower ticket prices??

The passing of times means prices go up. Owners will ALWAYS find a reason to increase ticket prices.

While a salary cap make make the prices stagnant for a year or two, they'd go up soon after. A cap would not lower prices. You really think that an owner is going to come out and say..."now that we've got a cap, we're going to LOWER ticket pricess?"

No way. People pay the prices now, they will continue pay prices when they go up, why lower them?

Ticket prices will go up regardless...football has a cap, ticket prices go up. Basketball I believe has a cap, prices go up. Baseball will be no different.

I already told you what I thought would happen.If the prices increase(even with what your saying-for no particular reason) the fans will not be able to attend as many games.A sellout will not be as common for any games.And the attendance drop will happen.Trust me.

I think lowering the salaries of already overpaid players will help this along.Plain and simple.

I'm sure if someone did the research you would see that over the past 15 years, ticket prices have gone up, as has attendance.

And you can't just lower salaries of high priced players. They have CONTRACTS. They need to agree to that restructuring. You think that Alex Rodriguez is going to willingly give up $100M??

Come on, it's not that easy.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

[quote="KOBEARODLT":wzjy99fj][quote="predatorkj":wzjy99fj][quote="KOBEARODLT":wzjy99fj][quote="predatorkj":wzjy99fj][quote="trevordchi":wzjy99fj][quote="tonyrios":wzjy99fj][quote="predatorkj":wzjy99fj][quote="tonyrios":wzjy99fj]And for the record, I went to over 5 Yankee games last year, each ticket LESS than 20$. It costs me more to get to the stadium and back than buying the ticket.
It'll be the same this year.

You sure about that?

Yes, I'm sure about that. You see, the thing is, I live in New York and you don't.

The thing is, we all have the internet and can easily find out that the only $20 tickets are in the OF in the Upper Deck.

Anything in the lower level is $100+ and closer to $200 in the infield.

Dangit Trev...I was waiting for him to be smart enough to figure that out!!! :lol:

well were ever the ticket is i would rather be far away watching the yanks instead of up close watching the astros...[/quote:wzjy99fj]


See...there is no call for that.I never even said I wouldn't like to go to a yankees game.Why are you trying to turn this into a debate about my team.Thats pretty trollish buddy.[/quote:wzjy99fj]

no not trollish, you are just stating your point on how you dont think its fair that the yankees are spending that kind of money and im just stating my point i would rather pay more to watch the yankees instead of the astros...[/quote:wzjy99fj]


Actually I don't think its smart.Not anything else.Just not smart.

As for the astros comment.You were being a smartass.Plain and simple.[/quote:wzjy99fj]

So you would complain about this spending spree if it was the astros getting all these free agents right....You would not go to the games just based on principle right.....NOOOO STOP WHINING[/quote:wzjy99fj]


Dude...I probably wouldn't be able to afford to go to the games.Can you understand that.I certainly wouldn't be for it if I knew I was going to pay more than I already do.Maybe you just like to argue and stir up a mess.[/quote:wzjy99fj]

so you wouldn't just buy seats that cost less...or are you to good for that?[/quote:wzjy99fj]


It would depend on what they went for.But for the most part...no.I wouldn't like to go to a game where I couldn't hardly see what the hell was going on.Its not very fun for me or my wife.I wouldn't call it being too good.Lets just say I like to actually be able to watch the game without feeling like I am a million miles away.[/quote:wzjy99fj]

most stadiums i have been at, every seat you can see good....but like i said you have probably always bought the MORE EXPENSIVE seats and never tried anything else..

 

[cgilmo]

<------- Capitalist pig

 

[ru4scuba]

This is absolutely correct. the argument above assumes that the Yankees are truly competing in an open marketplace, independant of their competitors. But in reality, they are part of a closed system. They need to balance their desire to win (or even perhaps dominate) with the realization that they need their competitors to be strong and healthy or they themselves will die.

What good does spending all the money in the world do them if they drive their competition out of business? And that's where this unfettered ability to spend money is driving baseball. The NFL recognized this a long time ago. George Halas realized he needed the Green Bay Packers and other small market teams to be healthy in order for the Bears to survive. The Yankees and the rest of baseball better figure this out pretty quick or major league baseball as we know it will cease to exist.

Then show me where the Yankees have driven their competition out of business? If anything, through revenue sharing and luxury taxes the Yankees have made their competition stronger.

 

[zach]

Gee, another thread about the big bad Yankees and the money they spend.

To place a cap and minimum that a team can spend with a $110 million difference doesn't solve anything. That's still a large gap.

Additionally, if your going to complain about the Yankees and the money they spend,please also include, the Cub, Angels, Mets and Red Sox. Yes, the Yanks spend the most, but lets not make this out to be ONLY their fault.

If I owned that team, I wouldn't do anything different. They have to maintain a capacity crowd at all times. These FA deals put asses in the seats, which in turn generates revenue.....you know, "Economics 101".

 

[predatorkj]

[quote="predatorkj":1x5fq9zy]
If a lockout is what it takes...I as a baseball fan would be all for it.I am sure the owners would do so also if they felt it would really change things.Especially since they would know that it might help them acquire more players that are of all star caliber and would thereby increase ticket sales and whatnot.

You may accept it, but a LOT of fans would not.

A strike or lock-out would DESTROY baseball at this point.

Says who.I am sure a lot of fans could agree that if it meant lowering the salary of players and lower ticket prices...you tell me they wouldn't be for it.Now this is getting nuts.You know how many people I hear are upset about ticket prices as they are now.

They had a big outcry over the fact that Drayton McClane of the Houston Astros said he wouldn't be raising the prices of tickets due to the economy.Everybody I heard was like What the Hell?They shouldn't be raising them anyway.It already costs way too much to go to the game as it is.

Where would capped salaries immediately mean lower ticket prices??

The passing of times means prices go up. Owners will ALWAYS find a reason to increase ticket prices.

While a salary cap make make the prices stagnant for a year or two, they'd go up soon after. A cap would not lower prices. You really think that an owner is going to come out and say..."now that we've got a cap, we're going to LOWER ticket pricess?"

No way. People pay the prices now, they will continue pay prices when they go up, why lower them?

Ticket prices will go up regardless...football has a cap, ticket prices go up. Basketball I believe has a cap, prices go up. Baseball will be no different.

I already told you what I thought would happen.If the prices increase(even with what your saying-for no particular reason) the fans will not be able to attend as many games.A sellout will not be as common for any games.And the attendance drop will happen.Trust me.

I think lowering the salaries of already overpaid players will help this along.Plain and simple.

I'm sure if someone did the research you would see that over the past 15 years, ticket prices have gone up, as has attendance.

And you can't just lower salaries of high priced players. They have CONTRACTS. They need to agree to that restructuring. You think that Alex Rodriguez is going to willingly give up $100M??

Come on, it's not that easy.[/quote:1x5fq9zy]


I agree with the ticket prices comment you made.But I also hold that and the salaries players make as being hand in hand.

I know it will not be easy and the contracts may not get restructured but all I am saying is I do believe a cap needs to be there before one of these guys starts making a billion dollars over 8 years which will eventually happen if this trend continues.

 

[dethomas07]

To place a cap and minimum that a team can spend with a $110 million difference doesn't solve anything. That's still a large gap.

I just gave that as an example....here are the 2008 figures:

Yankees $209,081,579
Tigers $138,685,197
Mets $138,293,378
Red Sox $133,440,037
White Sox $121,152,667
Angels $119,216,333
Cubs $118,595,833
Dodgers $118,536,038
Mariners $117,993,982
Braves $102,424,018
Cardinals $100,624,450
Blue Jays $98,641,957
Phillies $98,269,881
Astros $88,930,415
Brewers $81,004,167
Indians $78,970,067
Giants $76,904,500
Reds $74,277,695
Padres $73,677,617
Rockies $68,655,500
Rangers $68,239,551
Orioles $67,196,248
Diamondbacks $66,202,713
Twins $62,182,767
Royals $58,245,500
Nationals $54,961,000
Pirates $49,365,283
Athletics $47,967,126
Rays $43,820,598
Marlins $21,836,500

If you did something like $50M and $125M and you'd see how that might affect several teams.

David