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Mighty Bombjack

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Please bear with me a minute through a semi-long read

Some of you may know that I worked as a baseball editor for Topps from 2001-2002. Obviously, the content of the job was fantastic, and the people working right around me in Sports Marketing were great. However, overall the job was a crappy corporate cubicle job that, despite my love of baseball, I wasn't meant to do. I quit in 2002.

While I was there, I got some nice stuff (though probably not as much as one might imagine). I was always given a box of each product that I worked on, and our bosses would purchase boxes of competitor's products for us to rip so we knew what they were doing. I could also purchase some product (not the high end stuff) at reduced prices at the employee store. I even got there in time to get one of the 2001 Topps Employee sets, which I still have (though I didn't work on that set). Most of the stuff I took away from there I have kept for my PC, traded, or sold. Nothing really major, but it was a nice little severance in lieu of any actual monetary one.

One unique item that I got while there was a prototype for a set called Topps Performance Baseball. I have shown this card here before. Basically, in 2002 Topps wanted to get in on the gaming side of cards with a set that allowed collectors to use the cards in a one-to-one dice game, as well as scratch off a code on the back and use the cards to build an online fantasy team through Topps.com. I spent a long time creating a checklist for this set and debating with others about what rating each player should have. This all went to waste as the product got scrapped before actual production. However, during one production meeting, a couple of prototypes were thrown around. I asked if I could keep one, and here it is. Note that Ichiro played for Philly and had 69 HRs in 2001.

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Now to the question: Do you think anyone is interested in purchasing this card? What could I get for it? I have no proof that it is a Topps-produced prototype except for my own word. Come to think of it, I don't even really have any proof that I actually worked there. So, if I wanted to sell this thing, how would I go about doing it?

Any comments or questions are appreciated.

EDIT-SOLD WITH BO OF 1500
 

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Re: Question about possibly selling an unknown prototype

Don't sell it ever. That is a 1/1 card of a potential hall of famer. Even If you were able to get some sort of verification of the sets possible existance, it just would not sell for what it's worth, as no one but Topps employees from 2000-2002 would know about it.

I think it's a fantastic looking card, and easily could be a centerpiece of an Ichiro collection.

If you HAVE to sell it, contact these guys:http://www.r-b21.com/sitemap/

EDIT: thinking twice about it, If you put the full story of the card in your auction, you might be able to pull some decent money for it. I'd say in the ballpark of $50-$300. You just never know with Japanese collectors, especially for something that would differentiate their collection.
 

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starwarsfan2003 said:
Don't sell it ever. That is a 1/1 card of a potential hall of famer. Even If you were able to get some sort of verification of the sets possible existance, it just would not sell for what it's worth, as no one but Topps employees from 2000-2002 would know about it.

I think it's a fantastic looking card, and easily could be a centerpiece of an Ichiro collection.

If you HAVE to sell it, contact these guys:http://www.r-b21.com/sitemap/

EDIT: thinking twice about it, If you put the full story of the card in your auction, you might be able to pull some decent money for it. I'd say in the ballpark of $50-$300. You just never know with Japanese collectors, especially for something that would differentiate their collection.

Thanks, that's good input. I'm thinking about putting it up for 10 days with an opening bid of 50, but we'll see.

Anyone else have thoughts?
 

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Re: Question about possibly selling an unknown prototype

Contact BGS and see if they will slab it. Seriously.

Let them know your provenance, and clearly they'll see the Topps logo etc and maybe they throw it in a BGS Authentic slab for you.

I think the card is will over $200 with the Japanese bidders, along with some serious money backed Ichiro collectors here in the State.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
Contact BGS and see if they will slab it. Seriously.

Let them know your provenance, and clearly they'll see the Topps logo etc and maybe they throw it in a BGS Authentic slab for you.

I think the card is will over $200 with the Japanese bidders, along with some serious money backed Ichiro collectors here in the State.

You know, I hadn't even thought about that. I've never sent a card in for slabbing before. Do you think I should call? Do they take inquiries into stuff like this, or do I have to send it in and see what they say?
 

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I'd easily pay $200+ for it.

You need to get the attention of Keith Olbermann. He collects unreleased Topps cards. I assume he'll pay the most.

Contact him via ebay. I'll PM you his user name.
 

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Very cool item, but Topps might have a problem with it being listed on eBay.
 

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Jastermereel said:
Very cool item, but Topps might have a problem with it being listed on eBay.

I kinda wonder about that too, though I'm not afraid of any repercussions from them. I possibly see Ebay taking it down at their request if they had a problem with it.

EDIT-On a side note, I listed an unreleased, unauto'd card from Topps206 several times before finally selling it with a BO. Had no problems there.
 

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Re: Question about possibly selling an unknown prototype

Mighty Bombjack said:
Jastermereel said:
Very cool item, but Topps might have a problem with it being listed on eBay.

I kinda wonder about that too, though I'm not afraid of any repercussions from them. I possibly see Ebay taking it down at their request if they had a problem with it.

EDIT-On a side note, I listed an unreleased, unauto'd card from Topps206 several times before finally selling it with a BO. Had no problems there.
Just wondering what card it was?
 

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RandomH said:
Mighty Bombjack said:
Jastermereel said:
Very cool item, but Topps might have a problem with it being listed on eBay.

I kinda wonder about that too, though I'm not afraid of any repercussions from them. I possibly see Ebay taking it down at their request if they had a problem with it.

EDIT-On a side note, I listed an unreleased, unauto'd card from Topps206 several times before finally selling it with a BO. Had no problems there.
Just wondering what card it was?

Jason Giambi auto. He was slated to be in the auto set, and the cards were printed. A few were sent to us in New York for approval, but then Giambi signed an exclusive with Fleer. The ones still at the printer were destroyed, but I held on to a couple. Gave one away and sold the other.
 

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Re: Question about possibly selling an unknown prototype

It's friggin unbelievable how many incredible cards are over in Japan.
There are 8 pages of Dawson cards, some of which I've never seen before.

starwarsfan2003 said:
Don't sell it ever. That is a 1/1 card of a potential hall of famer. Even If you were able to get some sort of verification of the sets possible existance, it just would not sell for what it's worth, as no one but Topps employees from 2000-2002 would know about it.

I think it's a fantastic looking card, and easily could be a centerpiece of an Ichiro collection.

If you HAVE to sell it, contact these guys:http://www.r-b21.com/sitemap/

EDIT: thinking twice about it, If you put the full story of the card in your auction, you might be able to pull some decent money for it. I'd say in the ballpark of $50-$300. You just never know with Japanese collectors, especially for something that would differentiate their collection.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
Contact BGS and see if they will slab it. Seriously.

Let them know your provenance, and clearly they'll see the Topps logo etc and maybe they throw it in a BGS Authentic slab for you.

I think the card is will over $200 with the Japanese bidders, along with some serious money backed Ichiro collectors here in the State.


I second this notion.
 

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Re: Question about possibly selling an unknown prototype

200lbhockeyplayer said:
Contact BGS and see if they will slab it. Seriously.

Let them know your provenance, and clearly they'll see the Topps logo etc and maybe they throw it in a BGS Authentic slab for you.

I think the card is will over $200 with the Japanese bidders, along with some serious money backed Ichiro collectors here in the State.

They won't. You have to submit background information first so they can add it to their database first. Trust me on that as my 3 unreleased cards got a "Service Unavailable" because of it.
 

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Mighty Bombjack said:
RandomH said:
[quote="Mighty Bombjack":38wtpb80]
Jastermereel said:
Very cool item, but Topps might have a problem with it being listed on eBay.

I kinda wonder about that too, though I'm not afraid of any repercussions from them. I possibly see Ebay taking it down at their request if they had a problem with it.

EDIT-On a side note, I listed an unreleased, unauto'd card from Topps206 several times before finally selling it with a BO. Had no problems there.
Just wondering what card it was?

Jason Giambi auto. He was slated to be in the auto set, and the cards were printed. A few were sent to us in New York for approval, but then Giambi signed an exclusive with Fleer. The ones still at the printer were destroyed, but I held on to a couple. Gave one away and sold the other.[/quote:38wtpb80]

I still have scans of that card. :)
 

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MartinFFcollector said:
I'd easily pay $200+ for it.

You need to get the attention of Keith Olbermann. He collects unreleased Topps cards. I assume he'll pay the most.

Contact him via ebay. I'll PM you his user name.



this a great idea. contact Keith, im ure he would be interested.
 

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Jack Straw said:
Put it on Ebay with a BIN/BO for 30 days and they will find it.

This may be the best advice yet.

Any ideas on the BIN price?
 

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I think I'm gonna list this soon. I was looking at it, and I realized that the year in the legalese on the bottom of the card is 2001, which might make the card all the more interesting for potential buyers...

Thanks for the advice, all
 

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Mighty Bombjack said:
[quote="Jack Straw":lfdl46vd]Put it on Ebay with a BIN/BO for 30 days and they will find it.

This may be the best advice yet.

Any ideas on the BIN price?[/quote:lfdl46vd]

I would put it at 1000.00 and field BO's. You will get decent money for it and you will get alot of offers.
 

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