"Rare" 90s inserts

[Fandruw25]

I know beckett list these as "beware of counterfeits" and I was wondering if anyone else with copies of these could check to see if these match up or if the serial numbers are 'off'.
1998 finest centurions and the ref version

 

[onionring9]

I have this one. Unsure of the authenticity:

 

[Fandruw25]

I have this one. Unsure of the authenticity:

Well it's nice to see that the serial number on my ref serial numbering is the same style as yours.

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

I have this one. Unsure of the authenticity:

Well it's nice to see that the serial number on my ref serial numbering is the same style as yours.

Except his has the 0's before the 6.

 

[Fandruw25]

Damn, Good catch met fan!! Now, I hope more members can share scans.

 

[BunchOBull]

 

[Jastermereel]

I'm guessing the 006/75 is fake. The reason being that it should say 06/75 seeing that '75' is only 2 digits.

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

I'm guessing the 006/75 is fake. The reason being that it should say 06/75 seeing that '75' is only 2 digits.

You think that would be the case but look at this

000 of 63
http://www.mattyno9.com/1-of-1/1998-fle ... sic63.html

 

[BunchOBull]

Hey you Biggio collectors...it's been found...

 

[HawaiianLance]

I'm guessing the 006/75 is fake. The reason being that it should say 06/75 seeing that '75' is only 2 digits.

[EDITED] Respectfully, I'd like to offer an equally plausible theory.

It's also possible that press operations used the imprinter with different settings. Likely due to different operators doing the work. You know: one day it's one guy - next day it's a different guy/day type situation.

One clear indicator is: How does one "fake" a Finest card from this period? If you mean 'backdoored', that's certainly a possibility. But again unlikely given the how few of the refractors have seen the market since their release in 1997. (my opinion)

I do get where you're coming from though. I would have never guessed that 97 Fleer Showcase Legacies were backdoored - and yet...

P.S. If Beckett says counterfeits exists - well... truth be told I trust those deceitful manipulating morons like I trust Bernie Madoff.

 

[Brewer Andy]

Hey you Biggio collectors...it's been found...

Vindication! Congrats Bull!

 

[BunchOBull]

Thank you. It's nice to see it...the pieces of the puzzle are starting to all fill in.

 

[KillerBeeFan]

Hey you Biggio collectors...it's been found...

Amazing ...

I searched all my duplicates and didn't find one

I wonder how many of these got thrown away because people thought they were badly printed !!!

If someone want's to throw one my way, I'll be happy to get it

Phil

 

[onionring9]

Is it just me or is the number slightly sideways too?

 

[BunchOBull]

This is where we are at on the 1990 Topps Blackless Variations...

 

[Brewer Andy]

This is where we are at on the 1990 Topps Blackless Variations...

Thats incredible. Those are the ones you have examples of in hand?

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

How rare are those blackless variations?

 

[cbrandtw]

I have these 2.

 

[BunchOBull]

Thats incredible. Those are the ones you have examples of in hand?

No, they are between the collections of two collectors. I only own one of them. I've just been lucky enough to bring the people who had the variations together in one place because they didn't know they had them.

How rare are those blackless variations?

Presumably at least as rare as the Thomas NNOF (which I think is in the ~200 copies range, though wide rule of thought is less than 100) because they were created from the exact same plate error.

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

How much would you guys pay for a legacy 1/1 of your player?