RAZOR ANNOUNCES NEW 2010 POKER PRODUCT....

[Razor]

In chat... come say hi!... BG

 

[Zambrano38]

This product makes me want to bust something for the first time in two years. When's the release date?

 

[schmidtfan20]

Nothing impressive about this release other than the redemption for the WSOP buy-in. What's next after this flops worse than your failed attempt at baseball, Roller Derby? ::facepalm::

you have no clue, there non sport stuff has done great.

The secondary market says otherwise. Maybe I would be blind to that fact if I road the hype train too, but fortunately I don't.

Can you name one 2008 or later razor non-sport release under cost?
I can't. Because not even one is.
I highly recommend homework over guesswork.
BG

You can't come onto the baseball boards and say that. People lost tons on your baseball products, if you are only goin to talk non sports, then this is the wrong board. Collectors don't think about your companies non sports products when they hear the name Razor, they think of the baseball products that bombed. I do think it will do well, just for the fact
that so many people are into the WSOP and playing in the tourny would be amazing. Good luck with it.

Kevin

 

[BluesBroSJ]

I think this will be a case for me.

My turn to bring the beer?

 

[scotty21690]

This product looks great! Too bad I don't collect poker or else I would buy a box.

 

[NYCrulesU]

Nothing impressive about this release other than the redemption for the WSOP buy-in. What's next after this flops worse than your failed attempt at baseball, Roller Derby? ::facepalm::

you have no clue, there non sport stuff has done great.

The secondary market says otherwise. Maybe I would be blind to that fact if I road the hype train too, but fortunately I don't.

Can you name one 2008 or later razor non-sport release under cost?
I can't. Because not even one is.
I highly recommend homework over guesswork.
BG

I can tell you based on Ebay sales how many people lost their shirts on your Presidential cuts. That's a fact. So no guess work there. Pure fact. Reason? People will dish out for UD/Topps etc. They don't want some fly by night "Razor" brand. Again, fact. Try as you may, try as you might your products will continue to tank. No need to get testy because the truth is a hard pill to swallow.

Success of a product/company, in this market, is directly tied to secondary sales. Just because you ran the hype machine here and had enough of a cult-ish following that your products sold out doesn't mean squat. I can personally tell you the tons of show dealers, store owners and collectors that didn't and wouldn't buy a Razor product. They don't want them in the stores, they can't sell them at shows and they can't move them on Ebay. Resale vale = next to nothing. If you call that success then I suggest you get your head examined. Ride the wave now while you have a small following still. Eventually people will wake up and stop being suckered by the "newest thing" and realize they are just wasting their money.

 

[sportscardtheory]

Nothing impressive about this release other than the redemption for the WSOP buy-in. What's next after this flops worse than your failed attempt at baseball, Roller Derby? ::facepalm::

you have no clue, there non sport stuff has done great.

The secondary market says otherwise. Maybe I would be blind to that fact if I road the hype train too, but fortunately I don't.

Can you name one 2008 or later razor non-sport release under cost?
I can't. Because not even one is.
I highly recommend homework over guesswork.
BG

I can tell you based on Ebay sales how many people lost their shirts on your Presidential cuts. That's a fact. So no guess work there. Pure fact. Reason? People will dish out for UD/Topps etc. They don't want some fly by night "Razor" brand. Again, fact. Try as you may, try as you might your products will continue to tank. No need to get testy because the truth is a hard pill to swallow.

Success of a product/company, in this market, is directly tied to secondary sales. Just because you ran the hype machine here and had enough of a cult-ish following that your products sold out doesn't mean squat. I can personally tell you the tons of show dealers, store owners and collectors that didn't and wouldn't buy a Razor product. They don't want them in the stores, they can't sell them at shows and they can't move them on Ebay. Resale vale = next to nothing. If you call that success then I suggest you get your head examined. Ride the wave now while you have a small following still. Eventually people will wake up and stop being suckered by the "newest thing" and realize they are just wasting their money.

Yikes. No need for this. I have absolutely NO interest in anything other than sports cards and I still would never buy another Razor baseball product due to their "bowing out" in 2009... but this is harsh.

 

[jmc280zx]

* 9 REDEMPTION CARDS GOOD TO PLAY IN AN EXCLUSIVE 9 SEAT ONLINE TOURNAMENT WHERE RAZOR WILL AWARD THE WINNER A WORLD SERIES OF POKER MAIN EVENT ENTRY!!!!! (THE 9TH SEAT REDEMPTION WILL BE AWARDED BY A NO PURCHASE NECESSARY DRAWING!!!!)

So what happens when only 5 or 6 of these redemptions are pulled and redeemed?? (if that many)

 

[NYCrulesU]

[quote="NYCrulesU":10be2uqi]Nothing impressive about this release other than the redemption for the WSOP buy-in. What's next after this flops worse than your failed attempt at baseball, Roller Derby? ::facepalm::

you have no clue, there non sport stuff has done great.

The secondary market says otherwise. Maybe I would be blind to that fact if I road the hype train too, but fortunately I don't.

Can you name one 2008 or later razor non-sport release under cost?
I can't. Because not even one is.
I highly recommend homework over guesswork.
BG

I can tell you based on Ebay sales how many people lost their shirts on your Presidential cuts. That's a fact. So no guess work there. Pure fact. Reason? People will dish out for UD/Topps etc. They don't want some fly by night "Razor" brand. Again, fact. Try as you may, try as you might your products will continue to tank. No need to get testy because the truth is a hard pill to swallow.

Success of a product/company, in this market, is directly tied to secondary sales. Just because you ran the hype machine here and had enough of a cult-ish following that your products sold out doesn't mean squat. I can personally tell you the tons of show dealers, store owners and collectors that didn't and wouldn't buy a Razor product. They don't want them in the stores, they can't sell them at shows and they can't move them on Ebay. Resale vale = next to nothing. If you call that success then I suggest you get your head examined. Ride the wave now while you have a small following still. Eventually people will wake up and stop being suckered by the "newest thing" and realize they are just wasting their money.

Yikes. No need for this. I have absolutely NO interest in anything other than sports cards and I still would never buy another Razor baseball product due to their "bowing out" in 2009... but this is harsh.[/quote:10be2uqi]


Harsh, but true. Your observation (bolded above) holds much weight as well. I also agree with Schmidtfan's post.

 

[Sly]

I love the fact that the card companies are responsible for consumers "losing their shirts" on a collectible.

Were any Razor products promoted as an "investment"? No. In fact, I don't believe ANY card companies promote their products as "investments."

The card companies set a price point on their products based on costs. You, as the buyer/consumer, decide if you want to buy the product at that price. If you do...you're buying a COLLECTIBLE.

If you choose to try and turn that collectible into an "investment" that is solely YOUR problem, not the card company. You lose, your problem for buying in at the price YOU paid. You could very easily said "no thanks" if you didn't feel the "investment" was worth it.

 

[Razor]

Nothing impressive about this release other than the redemption for the WSOP buy-in. What's next after this flops worse than your failed attempt at baseball, Roller Derby? ::facepalm::

you have no clue, there non sport stuff has done great.

The secondary market says otherwise. Maybe I would be blind to that fact if I road the hype train too, but fortunately I don't.

Can you name one 2008 or later razor non-sport release under cost?
I can't. Because not even one is.
I highly recommend homework over guesswork.
BG

I can tell you based on Ebay sales how many people lost their shirts on your Presidential cuts. That's a fact. So no guess work there. Pure fact. Reason? People will dish out for UD/Topps etc. They don't want some fly by night "Razor" brand. Again, fact. Try as you may, try as you might your products will continue to tank. No need to get testy because the truth is a hard pill to swallow.

Success of a product/company, in this market, is directly tied to secondary sales. Just because you ran the hype machine here and had enough of a cult-ish following that your products sold out doesn't mean squat. I can personally tell you the tons of show dealers, store owners and collectors that didn't and wouldn't buy a Razor product. They don't want them in the stores, they can't sell them at shows and they can't move them on Ebay. Resale vale = next to nothing. If you call that success then I suggest you get your head examined. Ride the wave now while you have a small following still. Eventually people will wake up and stop being suckered by the "newest thing" and realize they are just wasting their money.

With all due respect, you obviously do not know me.
If you did, as all the distributors do, you would know that I am not a fly by nighter.
ANY part of this industry I have been involved in, it has been as a market leader.

You dont have to collect our products. Many people like our brands and the value they provide. You still havent named one single non-sports box form 2008-present that weve made that is under cost. NO other company can boast this.
Do the research. Its a fact, not hype.
BG

p.s.- We didnt make Oval office packs $2700-3000. Dealers did. Factory cost was $1500. At $1500, it was a solid value.

 

[Razor]

* 9 REDEMPTION CARDS GOOD TO PLAY IN AN EXCLUSIVE 9 SEAT ONLINE TOURNAMENT WHERE RAZOR WILL AWARD THE WINNER A WORLD SERIES OF POKER MAIN EVENT ENTRY!!!!! (THE 9TH SEAT REDEMPTION WILL BE AWARDED BY A NO PURCHASE NECESSARY DRAWING!!!!)

So what happens when only 5 or 6 of these redemptions are pulled and redeemed?? (if that many)

If only 5-6 get pulled, the remainder of the seats will be filled by no additional purchase necessary or other winners determined by promotions centered around this release. This is to be determined, but all seats will be filled.
BG

 

[justinmandawg]

At 1500 even with how we got skunked we would have been very close +/-.

You can say what you want about Brian, he's somebody that can take it.


I'm sure I missed it but last time we talked, Stu's wife had provided or was going to provide a cut or document w/ Stu's Auto. I'm really hoping it's in there. I'm going for 1 case for sure.

 

[Hallsgator]

I love the fact that the card companies are responsible for consumers "losing their shirts" on a collectible.

Were any Razor products promoted as an "investment"? No. In fact, I don't believe ANY card companies promote their products as "investments."

The card companies set a price point on their products based on costs. You, as the buyer/consumer, decide if you want to buy the product at that price. If you do...you're buying a COLLECTIBLE.

If you choose to try and turn that collectible into an "investment" that is solely YOUR problem, not the card company. You lose, your problem for buying in at the price YOU paid. You could very easily said "no thanks" if you didn't feel the "investment" was worth it'.

Well, some cards did say "Happy Prospecting"

 

[Razor]

At 1500 even with how we got skunked we would have been very close +/-.

You can say what you want about Brian, he's somebody that can take it.


I'm sure I missed it but last time we talked, Stu's wife had provided or was going to provide a cut or document w/ Stu's Auto. I'm really hoping it's in there. I'm going for 1 case for sure.

We have a cut for this product!
BG

 

[justinmandawg]

At 1500 even with how we got skunked we would have been very close +/-.

You can say what you want about Brian, he's somebody that can take it.


I'm sure I missed it but last time we talked, Stu's wife had provided or was going to provide a cut or document w/ Stu's Auto. I'm really hoping it's in there. I'm going for 1 case for sure.

We have a cut for this product!
BG

That should be huge. I'm glad I'll be pulling it along with the redemption for a spot in the tournament.

 

[Daltonb1219]

Any Phil Ivy?

 

[kentuckyderby]

So what's the entry fee on the world series of poker, around $10g's? On heck of a redemption if you pull one and win the qualifying tournament.

In 2007 it was 5,000 according to my doyle brunson signed entry ticket

 

There are 50+ events leading up to the Main Event
the Main Event is 10K

 

[Russ S.]

Isnt this the only section anyone reads?

Also, the set features new poker pro: OREL HERSHISER autographs (seriously!)...

This makes it Baseball related!...

BG

Wow isnt that stretching it????

I think anyone else would have their post moved to the general chat board as this is not baseball related

They have to take any advantage they can get to recoup from their Garbage Baseball products.

The Poker stuff is great though!!

 

[kentuckyderby]

If Razor wants to add any "prospects" to its future Poker cards, feel fee to make a prospect card of me

I will be there one day