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Marro said:All the hate is because of losing money on prospects. Where are all these hobby cops when tricky Dick lied about changing the redemption system to a max of 45 days or the insane amount of back doored topps cards on ebay? A post was just made showing auctions for red refractors that would show product tion to be over a dozen of each. Brian comes on here and interacts with collectors and takes advice. This product is the same as others in concept. Just odds and good luck to get a good card. Some of the responses are laughable and scary honestly. Any thread, post or product he offers, you folks can find a negative and run with it. I hope some of you put this Passion in important issues and not just this hobby. oh wait to some of you its a business and nothing else.
WJCIII said:It takes about 2 minutes to look over this and see that I'd buy these at $225 and risk getting a $40 card as the worst pull before I'd buy some high end UD product for $225 and get $15 worth of jersey cards. Nice work, Brian! This is truly an impressive product.
kentuckyderby said:Marro said:All the hate is because of losing money on prospects. Where are all these hobby cops when tricky Dick lied about changing the redemption system to a max of 45 days or the insane amount of back doored topps cards on ebay? A post was just made showing auctions for red refractors that would show product tion to be over a dozen of each. Brian comes on here and interacts with collectors and takes advice. This product is the same as others in concept. Just odds and good luck to get a good card. Some of the responses are laughable and scary honestly. Any thread, post or product he offers, you folks can find a negative and run with it. I hope some of you put this Passion in important issues and not just this hobby. oh wait to some of you its a business and nothing else.
I cannot speak for others but for me, it's not a financial thing
It's more about honesty and doing the right thing
Marro said:kentuckyderby said:Marro said:All the hate is because of losing money on prospects. Where are all these hobby cops when tricky Dick lied about changing the redemption system to a max of 45 days or the insane amount of back doored topps cards on ebay? A post was just made showing auctions for red refractors that would show product tion to be over a dozen of each. Brian comes on here and interacts with collectors and takes advice. This product is the same as others in concept. Just odds and good luck to get a good card. Some of the responses are laughable and scary honestly. Any thread, post or product he offers, you folks can find a negative and run with it. I hope some of you put this Passion in important issues and not just this hobby. oh wait to some of you its a business and nothing else.
I cannot speak for others but for me, it's not a financial thing
It's more about honesty and doing the right thing
The guy admits to tanking in the baseball card business. He made statements most likely out of embarrassment and anger. Probably hoping for a 180 degree turn that never happened. I would imagine and venture to say you would go down the same road trying to not swallow your pride in the same situation. But least he can admit to failing and making bad choices. This product is loaded with plenty of nice cards that are PC to almost any collector who pulls them. You won't take as bigger hit then most products out there that are costly.
morgoth said:My math is fine, but its only as good as the data on VCP.
Compared to the 41 PB the 39 is a dull, BW fugly card. Thats the reason historically it hasn't dramatically been worth more than the 41 PB Williams.
I don't know how long you have collected vintage but this is something that goes back A LONG WAY. Ask any longtime dealer selling vintage, its only been recently that the 39 has gained some steam. Most likely due to RC set collectors and PSA's registry.
Sorry to piss in your post toasties but the facts are that in high grades there isn't that much difference in realized prices between the two cards.
morgoth said:In actuality the 1941 is his most popular pre war card but the 1939 PB RC has finally started to gain in value like should. Its ugly but a RC.
However in super high grade (not the ones offered by Razor) the margins of difference between the two cards get much closer.
1939 PB- PSA 4 VCP Average- $835
1941 PB- PSA 4 VCP Average- $513
% Difference- 163%
1939 PB- PSA 7 VCP Average-$2,257
1941 PB- PSA 7 VCP Average-$1,695
% Difference- 133%
1939 PB- PSA 8 VCP Average-$4,873
1941 PB- PSA 8 VCP Average-$4,214
% Difference- 116%
It looks like there has only been 1 9 of each sold in recent times so the data isn't really that good to look at."