Received an email from eBay - What a joke!

[HPC]

Because the item maybe over priced then and not sell. I have though used that method when doing a BIN/BO but when your using the .99 and letting it ride
you may not get the price you ant and then yu may not make much on the sale after the shipping cost anyway.

Definitely true, it really only works when selling cards priced higher than $10-15. Lower end cards you cant use that method nearly as much.

 

[daveyou]

oh boy..prosgem is a good dude, helping with the box break checklists and such, making it easy for a lot of us using the checklist he makes..

with that said, though, i agree with the ones that are blocking u as we read what u wrote about dinging dsr's for shipping...

u charge 1.99 for shipping. thats lower than most which is awesome. however, if u were on the receiving end of a buyer who thought 1.99 was excessive bc he is used to free shipping..and dinged your dsr..now that wouldnt be cool, right?

i think majority are upset that as sellers, an u r one too, its so hard to go through the crap with almost no seller protection these days..and your post kinda made everyone just blow up..

jumbo made a great point and everyone else did also..

regardless of how u r taking the bashing, and how you start from here on out with leaving low dsr's, hope that u understand the other side of
things.

dave

fyi - what i charge can range from $2 to $20..i charge $20 for high dollar stuff so i can ship express 1 day w sig con and full insurance. never did my postage come out less thab what i charged..

 

[jbrown]

 

[daveyou]

Btw, im at staples right now buying a pack of bubble mailers. lol

dave

i should buy bulk but damn, last 500ct bulk bubbles were such low quality.. ;(

 

[prospectorgems]

Honestly, I think you are a bit unreasonable in your logic about "Dinging" Shipping DSR's at $3.00 + , so I blocked you....

That's fine, but no point in blocking me as I stated above I cannot ding for excessive shipping anymore. I completely disagree with you however that there is just no reason to ever exceed $2.50 in shipping. Even if you were to go to the post office it still wouldn't even come close to $2.50 to ship an item. I am talking one card, one sleeve, one holder, one bubble mailer. Add that all together including postage and you are probably just a shade under $2.25, again, this is for physically going to the post office.

 

[sportscardtheory]

That's fine, but no point in blocking me as I stated above I cannot ding for excessive shipping anymore. I completely disagree with you however that there is just no reason to ever exceed $2.50 in shipping. Even if you were to go to the post office it still wouldn't even come close to $2.50 to ship an item. I am talking one card, one sleeve, one holder, one bubble mailer. Add that all together including postage and you are probably just a shade under $2.25, again, this is for physically going to the post office.

The simplest way to not spend too much on shipping is to not buy something from someone who you believe to have excessive shipping. Is it really that hard to understand. If it means SOOO much to you, look at a seller's shipping DSR and if it's low, don't buy from them. Problem solved.

 

[prospectorgems]

Do you give a low feedback score if shipping is more than $3 on a single item, of if combined shipping on multiple purchases is over $3? I think the first is defensible, while the second wouldn't be.

Single item only. I think I typically would give one or two stars for $5+, two stars for $4, 3 stars for $3 and never gave a 4 star. 5 stars obviously no concerns. Now if the package for the single item was packaged very well, then I would reconsider dinging the DSR's as you could tell that the seller really put time and effort to insure that the card does not get damaged.

The thing that really irks me about the email is that I wasn't excessive on dinging DSR's. I would only do it when it was absolutely necessary. I realize the email was just sent out to a large group so not all of it applied to me. I also think this is unprofessional on ebay's part, but I guess it saves them time from contacting me personally or having several different formats to their email.

 

[1st4040]

seems to me your only taking into account people who would buy bulk in mailers/toploaders/sleeves/team bags not just your average person who may buy a single pack of each and maybe even single bubble mailers at the PO when they go. buying in bulk no doubt the cost is under 2.50 total but in many other circumstances its not. Now with Ebay charging a percent on the shipping cost as well as the other fees the seller isn't making money there like in the past either. What your doing is wrong PERIOD.. if your bidding on an auction your agreeing to the terms set in the auction which you can clearly read long before you decide to bid. This post has made you look really bad so if I were you I would stop trying to defend your point and let it die...

 

[prospectorgems]

The simplest way to not spend too much on shipping is to not buy something from someone who you believe to have excessive shipping. Is it really that hard to understand. If it means SOOO much to you, look at a seller's shipping DSR and if it's low, don't buy from them. Problem solved.

That's not the point though. The reason the DSR's are in place is so we can give proper feedback. Now ebay is stating this is no longer accepted for certain sellers? Why have the DSR's if we cannot use them? If you have a low DSR, then you get penalized by ebay for which is why the system is in place.

 

[prospectorgems]

So a casual seller that does not use ebay as a way to supplement a living is subject to your $2.50-3.00 shipping cost rule?

$1.64 - sent for 3oz minimum with DC from Paypal shipping
$0.79 - bubble envelope
$0.22 - top loader and sleeve, team bag
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$2.65

Even using Paypal to ship there are other costs that make up shipping - granted not much. Your statement is presumptuous that all sellers are using the same methods that you are, and if not then they are subjected to harm of their ratings. Knowing that you are going to ding ratings, you still purchase items with shipping costs that exceed your own opinions, regardless if the cost is reflective of the seller's actual cost or not. That is just an as-hole thing to do.

Thank you for the warning - I blocked you also.

That's also taken into consideration. I will look at their history and they don't sell cards on a regular basis, then no, I will not ding them. If however most of what they sell is cards, then yes, I will ding that person on DSR's if they are excessive.

Be mad at me for all you like, but ebay is the one that put this system in place and now they are saying we shouldn't use it.

 

[aaron41984]

That's fine, but no point in blocking me as I stated above I cannot ding for excessive shipping anymore. I completely disagree with you however that there is just no reason to ever exceed $2.50 in shipping. Even if you were to go to the post office it still wouldn't even come close to $2.50 to ship an item. I am talking one card, one sleeve, one holder, one bubble mailer. Add that all together including postage and you are probably just a shade under $2.25, again, this is for physically going to the post office.

Man, I charge right at your "LINE" $2.50, and I lose money plenty of times when an item clears $250.00 or i ship to Canada, etc. Pretty ridiculous to ding any sellers nowadays if you get your item. eBay already plants a hard rod in the a$$hole of every seller on the site.

 

[prospectorgems]

There's no way to get an intelligent person at eBay customer service that will assist you.

I had a non feedback/account related issue -- I changed email addresses and my auctions were still directing payment to my old email address, even though I changed it with eBay and Paypal.

Called ebay, they said my new auctions would reflect it. New auctions closed, ayments still went to the old email address.

Completely clueless.

I found the error - my Turbo Lister had the old email address... but they're completely clueless and unprofessional. And unamerican.

That's pretty much what I figured. I suppose though when you have the monopoly like they do, what do they really care? What ever happened to businesses actually caring about their customers and not bank it all of greed?

 

[Pine Tar]

That's fine, but no point in blocking me as I stated above I cannot ding for excessive shipping anymore. I completely disagree with you however that there is just no reason to ever exceed $2.50 in shipping. Even if you were to go to the post office it still wouldn't even come close to $2.50 to ship an item. I am talking one card, one sleeve, one holder, one bubble mailer. Add that all together including postage and you are probably just a shade under $2.25, again, this is for physically going to the post office.

Um actaully yes it does come out to more then $2.50
Because a bubble mailer is considered a Flat and a flat cost 1.95 for up to 3 ounces and then Delivery conformation is now $0.85 on top of the postage.
1.95
+0.85
= $2.80 from where I'm sitting. So it looks like it would cost more the 2.50 to ship this out at the post office. Here how about you go try this and send me a card using this method and when I get It I'll pp you the amount you spend back to you.

I'll PM me you address.
Here I did an example from my house to my in-laws and here what they say it would cost me to ship this out
http://postcalc.usps.com/Summary.as...Time=8:00 AM&time=Fri, Aug 17&c=4&mt=7&es=106

Summary

[TD="align: right"] [/TD]

First-Class Mail®, Large Envelope, weight 0 lbs 3 oz, mailed on August 14 after 8:00 AM
from OSWEGO IL 60543 to GILMAN IA 50106
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[TR]
[TH="class: GridViewHeaderCenter"]Mailing Summary[/TH]
[TH="class: GridViewHeaderCenter"]Post Office Price[/TH]
[TH="class: GridViewHeaderRight"]Online Price[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: GridViewItemCenter"]First-Class Mail® Parcel[/TD]
[TD="class: GridViewItemCenter, align: right"] $1.95 [/TD]
[TD="class: GridViewItemRight, align: right"] Not available [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: GridViewItemCenter"]Delivery Confirmation™[/TD]
[TD="class: GridViewItemCenter, align: right"] $0.85 [/TD]
[TD="class: GridViewItemRight, align: right"] Not available [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: GridViewItemCenter, align: right"]Total[/TD]
[TD="class: GridViewItemCenter, align: right"] $2.80 [/TD]
[TD="class: GridViewItemRight, align: right"] Not available [/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Expected Delivery from OSWEGO IL 60543 to GILMAN IA 50106 (Zone 3) is Fri, Aug 17.

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So it is time you end you argument of I don't see it costing 3 bucks to ship this out to anyone. And move on in life really man this is a mute point now.

 

[WaxPax]

Clearly, I am not alone in believing you are way off the mark in your thought process here. You have managed to rack up quite a few blocks from sellers on multiple sites...Congrats !!!

That's fine, but no point in blocking me as I stated above I cannot ding for excessive shipping anymore. I completely disagree with you however that there is just no reason to ever exceed $2.50 in shipping. Even if you were to go to the post office it still wouldn't even come close to $2.50 to ship an item. I am talking one card, one sleeve, one holder, one bubble mailer. Add that all together including postage and you are probably just a shade under $2.25, again, this is for physically going to the post office.

 

[katieneack]

Man, I charge right at your "LINE" $2.50, and I lose money plenty of times when an item clears $250.00 or i ship to Canada, etc. Pretty ridiculous to ding any sellers nowadays if you get your item. eBay already plants a hard rod in the a$$hole of every seller on the site.

Good point - I would think that you being a seller as well, would be happy that Ebay is doing this. All I ever hear is how Ebay always sides with the buyer and the sellers always get screwed. Well, here is one instance where they are protecting their sellers. I would think you would be happy to see this considering you said you are also a seller, if I am not mistaken.

 

[sportscardtheory]

That's not the point though. The reason the DSR's are in place is so we can give proper feedback. Now ebay is stating this is no longer accepted for certain sellers? Why have the DSR's if we cannot use them? If you have a low DSR, then you get penalized by ebay for which is why the system is in place.

I can use the DSR system. It's you who can't because you abused said system. And we are supposed to feel bad for you? lol

 

[prospectorgems]

Man, I charge right at your "LINE" $2.50, and I lose money plenty of times when an item clears $250.00 or i ship to Canada, etc. Pretty ridiculous to ding any sellers nowadays if you get your item. eBay already plants a hard rod in the a$$hole of every seller on the site.

I think those that are responded to me that are pissed are misunderstanding my initial message. Everything is taken into consideration at the time when leaving DSR's. It's not like bam, bam, bam... I am leaving low DSR's. That's why ebay's message irked me in the first place because what I was doing was far from excessive. I only did it when it was warranted.

For those that blocked me, that's fine, you are just losing business. I am assuming since you blocked me you want to get away with excessive shipping. So by all means, block the heck out of me. I cannot justify ever having high shipping and screwing over my customers, that's just not how I work. So it sounds like you are just saving me money and frustration from winning items from someone that is has unprofessional selling standards.

 

[prospectorgems]

I can use the DSR system. It's you who can't because you abused said system. And we are supposed to feel bad for you? lol

Absolutely not abusing the system. Please reread the initial post and all responses. No where at all did I ever abuse the system. eBay's general email is totally misleading.

Did I ever ask anyone to feel bad for me? Where did I state that?

 

[mlbsalltimegreats]

As anal as ebay is they do not just send those letters or messages unless you really did or they think you did something wrong, which in this case was abuse the DRS system. You may not see it yourself but there obviously is an issue with the way you are leaving bad DRS ratings. Im going to go out on a limb and say the the real reason for the option to leave low or high DRS for shipping and Handling is because of all the complaints of people sending cards in plain white envelopes while charging 3 bucks or more (Im sure there are other reasons but this being the main reason). If you card arrives in a Bubble mailer, Top loader and well packaged then there is no reason not to leave 5 star rating especially after you agreed to buy the item after knowing the shipping and handling charges ahead of time. It would be different if the listing said 3 bucks and then the guy charges you 5 bucks on the invoice with out saying anything. 3 dollar shipping is just not that excessive with all the fees sellers have to pay these days. I honestly am not trying to be rude but I would never want someone with your thought process bidding on my cards and if I had a selling account i would more than likely block you. Like people have said if you dont like the cost of shipping, even knowing ahead of time, dont buy from that seller. Good luck moving forward.

 

[Frow]

I think those that are responded to me that are pissed are misunderstanding my initial message. Everything is taken into consideration at the time when leaving DSR's. It's not like bam, bam, bam... I am leaving low DSR's. That's why ebay's message irked me in the first place because what I was doing was far from excessive. I only did it when it was warranted.

For those that blocked me, that's fine, you are just losing business. I am assuming since you blocked me you want to get away with excessive shipping. So by all means, block the heck out of me. I cannot justify ever having high shipping and screwing over my customers, that's just not how I work. So it sounds like you are just saving me money and frustration from winning items from someone that is has unprofessional selling standards.

So screwing over sellers because you entered into a binding agreement with full disclosure before hand and then just decided what the hell is ok? If you think the cost is too much...don't buy. Simple concept and keeps them from making money on the practice.