Texas Girls Team was Game 100-0...and has to Apologize!

[predatorkj]

If they don't want the kids getting their asses handed to them, then don't let them play.

What did they expect to happen? The other team just let them score?

No. You play to win. And if you can win by 100 you should. It's not the kids fault out there who are playing the game that they were put in this situation, but they should play their hardest.

We do not teach mercy here!Mercy is for the weak.
If a man stands in front of you he is your enemy.

Is there a problem Mr. Lawrence? :lol: :lol: :lol:


One thing funny about the article was they said the win was not Christ like.I think in this case Jesus would have said "Take it to the hole!"

 

[justinmandawg]

My wifes a basketball coach and while she doesn't believe an apology or a forfeit is necessary. She did say that any respectable coach wouldn't run up the score.

But Adam, does she make a good sandwich?

Kidding, kidding, is it the same woman you had with you at the KC show a couple years ago?

 

[Adamsince1981]

My wifes a basketball coach and while she doesn't believe an apology or a forfeit is necessary. She did say that any respectable coach wouldn't run up the score.

But Adam, does she make a good sandwich?

Kidding, kidding, is it the same woman you had with you at the KC show a couple years ago?

Yes, and she is at 37.5 weeks of carrying my first born son....so if she was ever in the mood to run up a score it would be now.

Oh and she makes a fine sammich, as she would call them.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I don't think anyone here is saying that it is fair for the winning team to apologize or forfeit, for me, all blame falls upon the coach.

Nothing wrong with teaching sportsmanship, respect and restraint to anyone.

 

[wideright]

wideright this just isn't true, at least not across the board. I played sports at a private Catholic high school and religion was the last thing the coaches were preaching.

The apology should never happen because there shouldn't have been a 100-0 game in the first place.

Someone should tell them about sportsmanship...or sportswomanship.

These are kids playing so comparing them to professional athletes or this game to other sports is not relevant. Anyone who has played sports has been on either side of a blowout but never one like this game and that's the point: this doesn't happen because it shouldn't happen. The coach should not retain his job.

That's right, across the board it's not. I didn't say it applied to every private religious school. I went to Baptist schools where it did apply. There are plenty of other private Christian schools that do teach kids what I just stated. I have to believe some Catholic schools do, but some probably do not, such as yours. The article didn't state what denomination this Dallas school was, so I can't speculate, but it did plainly say that the head of the school was writing the apology, not the coach.

And I agree with you and others who have stated the apology should never have happened. I played several sports back in the day and if it were my team making the apology, I probably would have quit. But then again, I didn't play on any teams that would have done such a thing to cremate the other team.

 

[justinmandawg]

My wifes a basketball coach and while she doesn't believe an apology or a forfeit is necessary. She did say that any respectable coach wouldn't run up the score.

But Adam, does she make a good sandwich?

Kidding, kidding, is it the same woman you had with you at the KC show a couple years ago?

Yes, and she is at 37.5 weeks of carrying my first born son....so if she was ever in the mood to run up a score it would be now.

Oh and she makes a fine sammich, as she would call them.

Then you like most of us have outdone ourselves when picking a spouse.

Good luck with the baby. We've got number 3 on the way. My wife is a mother/baby, nicu, etc nurse. I'm irresistable.

Justin is always a good name for a boy.

 

[justinmandawg]

You mean non-secular? Trying to make sure I understand you correctly.

I am not at all throwing religion into this discussion, I'm only bringing it up because it was part of the article!! So don't flame me!

What ya'll are debating makes sense for secular schools. I have never heard of a regular public high school team being told to apologize for a lopsided win. It's unheard of.

This school is a private Christian school. If any of you have any experience with Christian schools, you know that the underlying philosophy is to do all things to the glory of God, including how you play sports. Don't get me wrong, sports teams train to win the games they play, but the kids are also taught to approach the game as they play it wiht the attitude of, would God be pleased with my performance? Or in this case, with the performance of my team?

Having been to Christian schools in my youth, I understand the reason why the head of the school is doing this. I disagree with it, because I think it will set a real bad taste in the mouths of the girls on his school's team. They will never approach playing sports the same again. And if we followed this story, I'll bet the coach and assistant coach disagree with it too.

The reason I'm writing this is because if you haven't had experience in Christian schools, then save your breath about debating something more important. Religion and sports is a tough mix.

 

[Adamsince1981]

My wifes a basketball coach and while she doesn't believe an apology or a forfeit is necessary. She did say that any respectable coach wouldn't run up the score.

But Adam, does she make a good sandwich?

Kidding, kidding, is it the same woman you had with you at the KC show a couple years ago?

Yes, and she is at 37.5 weeks of carrying my first born son....so if she was ever in the mood to run up a score it would be now.

Oh and she makes a fine sammich, as she would call them.

Then you like most of us have outdone ourselves when picking a spouse.

Good luck with the baby. We've got number 3 on the way. My wife is a mother/baby, nicu, etc nurse. I'm irresistable.

Justin is always a good name for a boy.

We are going with Aiden William. My initials are AWP and I wanted him to have the same.

 

[Anthony K.]

My wifes a basketball coach and while she doesn't believe an apology or a forfeit is necessary. She did say that any respectable coach wouldn't run up the score.

But Adam, does she make a good sandwich?

Kidding, kidding, is it the same woman you had with you at the KC show a couple years ago?

Yes, and she is at 37.5 weeks of carrying my first born son....so if she was ever in the mood to run up a score it would be now.

Oh and she makes a fine sammich, as she would call them.

Then you like most of us have outdone ourselves when picking a spouse.

Good luck with the baby. We've got number 3 on the way. My wife is a mother/baby, nicu, etc nurse. I'm irresistable.

Justin is always a good name for a boy.

We are going with Aiden William. My initials are AWP and I wanted him to have the same.

Congrats on the soon to be first child Adam

My first turns one on Monday and he is a handful

 

[Adamsince1981]

[quote="Adamsince1981":2h93o5hh]My wifes a basketball coach and while she doesn't believe an apology or a forfeit is necessary. She did say that any respectable coach wouldn't run up the score.

But Adam, does she make a good sandwich?

Kidding, kidding, is it the same woman you had with you at the KC show a couple years ago?

Yes, and she is at 37.5 weeks of carrying my first born son....so if she was ever in the mood to run up a score it would be now.

Oh and she makes a fine sammich, as she would call them.

Then you like most of us have outdone ourselves when picking a spouse.

Good luck with the baby. We've got number 3 on the way. My wife is a mother/baby, nicu, etc nurse. I'm irresistable.

Justin is always a good name for a boy.

We are going with Aiden William. My initials are AWP and I wanted him to have the same.

Congrats on the soon to be first child Adam

My first turns one on Monday and he is a handful [/quote:2h93o5hh]

Thanks, I'm looking forward to the challenge!

 

[predatorkj]

sports are about competing..You dont want to compete, dont play. All this PC nonsense is exactly what is wrong with our country.

This has nothing to do with PC, this has to do with sportsmanship. Every sport has some unwritten rules in it about doing this type of stuff. Dont steal bases in late innings when you're up by alot, dont pass in the last few minutes if you're up by a few touchdowns.

I agree with Jays cards.If I was on a team and the coach told us to take it easy...I'd quit in a heart beat.We played several inner city schools for baseball when I was in high school and they would forfeit after two innings because we would be up 20 runs to none.This happened in about 5 or so games a year but they were in our division and on our schedule.Did we feel bad?Not a bit.If they didn't want to get their butts beat...learn how to do more than walk around in your air Jordan's and look cool.If not...were going full throttle till the games over every game end of story.Its not unsportman like.Its called being competitive.If you feel your team can't compete then do not schedule games against schools who can.Don't waste their time.If you do...your a fool if you get upset about it.

And some of the things mentioned about not stealing bases in late innings or not passing when your ahead a few touchdowns...thats how games are lost.

 

[wideright]

No, I did mean secular, defined as I know it to mean schools that are religiously-neutral, or public schools. I would consider non-secular as schools based on a religious denomination of some sort. I apologize if those are incorrect definitions. That's just how I've always referred to them.

You mean non-secular? Trying to make sure I understand you correctly.

I am not at all throwing religion into this discussion, I'm only bringing it up because it was part of the article!! So don't flame me!

What ya'll are debating makes sense for secular schools. I have never heard of a regular public high school team being told to apologize for a lopsided win. It's unheard of.

This school is a private Christian school. If any of you have any experience with Christian schools, you know that the underlying philosophy is to do all things to the glory of God, including how you play sports. Don't get me wrong, sports teams train to win the games they play, but the kids are also taught to approach the game as they play it wiht the attitude of, would God be pleased with my performance? Or in this case, with the performance of my team?

Having been to Christian schools in my youth, I understand the reason why the head of the school is doing this. I disagree with it, because I think it will set a real bad taste in the mouths of the girls on his school's team. They will never approach playing sports the same again. And if we followed this story, I'll bet the coach and assistant coach disagree with it too.

The reason I'm writing this is because if you haven't had experience in Christian schools, then save your breath about debating something more important. Religion and sports is a tough mix.

 

[predatorkj]

There has been a 45 second shot clock in this county for 21 years, I would thing most high schools have one across the country.

As far as scheduling it, the school has just as much right to play the game as any one else. However, the winning coach should have forced the team to start passing the ball, perhaps passing to each player before shooting, having a certain number of passes before a shot can be taken, or let there be 10 second o the shot clock before running a play. Any of these have been used locally at times when one team is in an obvious mis match.

Yes they do have a right to play but I wouldn't schedule the game if I felt it was that big of a mismatch.Thats where the error occured.If your team cannot perform up to the performances of other teams...the only person at fault here would be the coach for scheduling the games.Even if the prinicipal of the school came down on him for it...all he has to do is tell her that his team just doesn't have the talent to compete.I still fail to see how anyone should feel sorry for the loss.Who knows maybe these kids will shape up and be better next year?But if anyone wants to keep making the argument that they have disabilities...they should be in a special league then.Otherwise...don't even think of using that as an excuse.I currently have a busted knee.I know I do.What people here are saying is basically like me going and trying to run a 25 mile marathon and then being upset I couldn't win.Its my own fault.Otherwise...I shouldn't complain and just trudge along.If your going to use a disability as an excuse then do it.But don;t try to compete, get whipped , and then make excuses.Thats bad sportsmanship.

 

[Adamsince1981]

sports are about competing..You dont want to compete, dont play. All this PC nonsense is exactly what is wrong with our country.

This has nothing to do with PC, this has to do with sportsmanship. Every sport has some unwritten rules in it about doing this type of stuff. Dont steal bases in late innings when you're up by alot, dont pass in the last few minutes if you're up by a few touchdowns.

I agree with Jays cards.If I was on a team and the coach told us to take it easy...I'd quit in a heart beat.We played several inner city schools for baseball when I was in high school and they would forfeit after two innings because we would be up 20 runs to none.This happened in about 5 or so games a year but they were in our division and on our schedule.Did we feel bad?Not a bit.If they didn't want to get their butts beat...learn how to do more than walk around in your air Jordan's and look cool.If not...were going full throttle till the games over every game end of story.Its not unsportman like.Its called being competitive.If you feel your team can't compete then do not schedule games against schools who can.Don't waste their time.If you do...your a fool if you get upset about it.

And some of the things mentioned about not stealing bases in late innings or not passing when your ahead a few touchdowns...thats how games are lost.

My wife is the assistant coach on the 2 ranked Class 5 team (14-2) in the state of Missouri and the head coach is in his first year. He coached college ball last year and won the coach of the year award in their division.

They've absolutely destroyed teams and could have easily scored 100 points against several of thier oponents (They've gone over 80 once). They've avoided this by not pressing and playing some JV players and the bench players later in the games.

Judging by your response, you wouldn't feel that they competed correctly.

 

[Adamsince1981]

If your going to use a disability as an excuse then do it.But don;t try to compete, get whipped , and then make excuses.Thats bad sportsmanship.

The team that scored 100 is the one's who are volunteering to forfeit and apologize. The other team has moved on and competed to the very end.

So lets not talk negatviely about the team that scored 0 and lost by 100.

 

[predatorkj]

sports are about competing..You dont want to compete, dont play. All this PC nonsense is exactly what is wrong with our country.

This has nothing to do with PC, this has to do with sportsmanship. Every sport has some unwritten rules in it about doing this type of stuff. Dont steal bases in late innings when you're up by alot, dont pass in the last few minutes if you're up by a few touchdowns.

I agree with Jays cards.If I was on a team and the coach told us to take it easy...I'd quit in a heart beat.We played several inner city schools for baseball when I was in high school and they would forfeit after two innings because we would be up 20 runs to none.This happened in about 5 or so games a year but they were in our division and on our schedule.Did we feel bad?Not a bit.If they didn't want to get their butts beat...learn how to do more than walk around in your air Jordan's and look cool.If not...were going full throttle till the games over every game end of story.Its not unsportman like.Its called being competitive.If you feel your team can't compete then do not schedule games against schools who can.Don't waste their time.If you do...your a fool if you get upset about it.

And some of the things mentioned about not stealing bases in late innings or not passing when your ahead a few touchdowns...thats how games are lost.

My wife is the assistant coach on the 2 ranked Class 5 team (14-2) in the state of Missouri and the head coach is in his first year. He coached college ball last year and won the coach of the year award in their division.

They've absolutely destroyed teams and could have easily scored 100 points against several of thier oponents (They've gone over 80 once). They've avoided this by not pressing and playing some JV players and the bench players later in the games.

Judging by your response, you wouldn't feel that they competed correctly.

If you put in subs and backups thats one thing but to tell your players ,whoever they may be, actually playing the game to slacken up is wrong.But hey...its just my opinion.Besides...your wife is a coach.Not me.What she chooses to do is her own business.I don't think many people would like me as a coach.My attitude would be to push as hard and far as you could every game but I guess thats just because thats how my coaches in high school taught me.But trust me...we got blown out.But that was just motivation.Some people cannot handle it though I suppose.

 

[predatorkj]

If your going to use a disability as an excuse then do it.But don;t try to compete, get whipped , and then make excuses.Thats bad sportsmanship.

The team that scored 100 is the one's who are volunteering to forfeit and apologize. The other team has moved on and competed to the very end.

So lets not talk negatviely about the team that scored 0 and lost by 100.

Not really talking about them per se but just the fact that if your going to play in a league that may or may not cater to special needs...you need to be mindful of that.Playing and then making the excuse is something that would make me laugh.I am not saying the school who lost is making excuses at all though.This was more directed at those who tried to claim their disabilities were the reason behind the loss.

 

[Adamsince1981]

sports are about competing..You dont want to compete, dont play. All this PC nonsense is exactly what is wrong with our country.

This has nothing to do with PC, this has to do with sportsmanship. Every sport has some unwritten rules in it about doing this type of stuff. Dont steal bases in late innings when you're up by alot, dont pass in the last few minutes if you're up by a few touchdowns.

I agree with Jays cards.If I was on a team and the coach told us to take it easy...I'd quit in a heart beat.We played several inner city schools for baseball when I was in high school and they would forfeit after two innings because we would be up 20 runs to none.This happened in about 5 or so games a year but they were in our division and on our schedule.Did we feel bad?Not a bit.If they didn't want to get their butts beat...learn how to do more than walk around in your air Jordan's and look cool.If not...were going full throttle till the games over every game end of story.Its not unsportman like.Its called being competitive.If you feel your team can't compete then do not schedule games against schools who can.Don't waste their time.If you do...your a fool if you get upset about it.

And some of the things mentioned about not stealing bases in late innings or not passing when your ahead a few touchdowns...thats how games are lost.

My wife is the assistant coach on the 2 ranked Class 5 team (14-2) in the state of Missouri and the head coach is in his first year. He coached college ball last year and won the coach of the year award in their division.

They've absolutely destroyed teams and could have easily scored 100 points against several of thier oponents (They've gone over 80 once). They've avoided this by not pressing and playing some JV players and the bench players later in the games.

Judging by your response, you wouldn't feel that they competed correctly.

If you put in subs and backups thats one thing but to tell your players ,whoever they may be, actually playing the game to slacken up is wrong.But hey...its just my opinion.Besides...your wife is a coach.Not me.What she chooses to do is her own business.I don't think many people would like me as a coach.My attitude would be to push as hard and far as you could every game but I guess thats just because thats how my coaches in high school taught me.But trust me...we got blown out.But that was just motivation.Some people cannot handle it though I suppose.

100% of HS coaches would disagree with you as far as running up the score goes. 99.9% of all coaches would practice in the same manner that my wife's team operates.

We run ruled teams in HS...that is what the run rule is for.
In HS basketball, all you have it the continuously running clock. If you are blowing a team out of the water and you are still pressing and shooting 3's then you are a bad sport.

 

[RL24]

No, I did mean secular, defined as I know it to mean schools that are religiously-neutral, or public schools. I would consider non-secular as schools based on a religious denomination of some sort. I apologize if those are incorrect definitions. That's just how I've always referred to them.

I think you have it right, my dad always yelled at us for listening to "secular music". :lol: No seriously.

 

[Adamsince1981]

If your going to use a disability as an excuse then do it.But don;t try to compete, get whipped , and then make excuses.Thats bad sportsmanship.

The team that scored 100 is the one's who are volunteering to forfeit and apologize. The other team has moved on and competed to the very end.

So lets not talk negatviely about the team that scored 0 and lost by 100.

Not really talking about them per se but just the fact that if your going to play in a league that may or may not cater to special needs...you need to be mindful of that.Playing and then making the excuse is something that would make me laugh.I am not saying the school who lost is making excuses at all though.This was more directed at those who tried to claim their disabilities were the reason behind the loss.

Their disabilities weren't associated with athleticism and they made no excuses. But the fact that they were a school that has about 20 girls and specializes in teaching LD students; you'd think the opposing coach wouldn't get his kicks through destroying them for 4 full quarters.