~~~ THE HOCKEY TALK THREAD 2012 OFF-SEASON ~~~

[robert67]

Unreal offer by the Flyers to Shea Weber with the next CBA up in the air. Pot meet kettle! The owners want the players to save them from themselves yet these offers keep getting made and accepted.

I almost wish Poile would let him go, take the 4 1st round picks and let the Flyers choke on all the cash due the first 4 years! Also, if he doesn't want to be here then don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Robert

 

[Junior Griffey]

I just don't see how Nashville doesn't match Philly's offer. You can't give up your best player for picks, especially with the way the rest of their offseason has gone.

 

[robert67]

True, but this whole situation is David Poile's fault. He should have locked Suter and Weber up long before now. If Weber goes so should Poile. It may be time for some new blood in upper management. How long can Nashville just tread water and be happy to make the playoffs, anyway?

Robert

 

[Junior Griffey]

Sure they should have locked them both up. The only way they save face is by matching. Who knows.

 

[pghbuccos]

Jesse this thread is for any hockey talk whether it be the CBA, free agents trades, hockey card or just a story about your hockey game from when you (or anyone else) were 6 years old.

also I agree the offer from the owners is ridiculous and I don't see how they could possibly think the players would agree to it. I realize it's just a starting point but it was an insulting starting point.

as for Weber if the Predators don't match the Flyers offer then I agree Poile needs to be fired.

 

[pghbuccos]

very happy that the Preds matched Weber's offer from the Flyers.

 

[robert67]

very happy that the Preds matched Weber's offer from the Flyers.

Dave, I'm glad they did too, but I have a bad feeling that it will be short term. We shall see. I will hope for the best and prepare for the worst!


Robert

 

[robert67]

CBA talks to resume on Monday:

National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman reiterated to the National Hockey League Players' Association on Thursday that the sides must negotiate a new Collective Bargaining Agreement and that the League's owners are not prepared to operate under the current CBA past Sept. 15, the date on which the agreement expires.
"I reconfirmed something that the union has been told multiple times over the last nine to 12 months, namely that time is getting short and the owners are not prepared to operate under this Collective Bargaining Agreement for another season, so we need to get to making a deal and doing it soon," Commissioner Bettman said in remarks after Thursday's negotiating session at the League office. "We believe there is ample time for the parties to get together and make a deal, and that is what we're going to be working toward."

According to NHLPA Executive Director Donald Fehr, the Union will respond Tuesday to the NHL's submission with its own proposal on core economic issues. The sides plan to meet in Toronto beginning Monday to continue negotiations.
"Whether you call it a counter-proposal, an alternative proposal, a proposal -- we expect it on Tuesday," Fehr said.
"We're not close on that issue (revenue sharing)," Commissioner Bettman added, "and frankly revenue sharing is part of the bigger economic picture."
Fehr said the Union indicated to the NHL that it is not in favor of the revenue-sharing model combined with player salary reductions as outlined by the owners in their July 13 proposal.

"Let me just put it this way, there is a meaningful gulf there," Fehr said.

UGH!

Does not sound too promising!

Robert

 

[Weimer]

Well that sucks.

 

[Krusin]

I think I have a new favorite hockey card
- DROOL - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...piuXI5HBeAlnjP3%2BApM%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

[pghbuccos]

I think I have a new favorite hockey card
- DROOL - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item1c29c0017b&item=120959533435&nma=true&pt=US_Football&rt=nc&si=flk5EMjbpiuXI5HBeAlnjP3%2BApM%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I've never seen that one. that was a cool concept and well executed.

 

[robert67]

My new favorite goalie mask:

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/e...sk-with-predators-pays-tribute-to-iron-maiden

Glad to have Mason back in Nashville. He is a character.

Robert

 

[robert67]

More bad labor news. Thanks Gary and Don!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...trouble.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp

Robert

 

[pghbuccos]

I don't think the season will start until December at the earliest.

 

[robert67]

Dave, I sadly agree. Looks like both sides are dug in. I knew this was going to happen when Fehr got his grubby hands involved!


Robert

 

[robert67]

More of the same:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...no-movement/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp

Ugh! Can the small market teams survive another long work stoppage? For my teams sake, I hope so!

Robert

 

[pghbuccos]

More of the same:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...no-movement/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp

Ugh! Can the small market teams survive another long work stoppage? For my teams sake, I hope so!

Robert

it would appear that a work stoppage is now inevitable. hopefully the small market teams like Nashville, Phoenix, Columbus and the others can make it through a lengthy lockout because I think that's where this is headed.

 

[Weimer]

Lockout = sucks. I'm excited for the season to start.

 

[robert67]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...-lockout.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a5&eref=sihp

This had better end quickly for the players sake.

Several teams would lose less money if the season is not played.

Robert

 

[robert67]

Finally, some hope!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...proposal.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a2&eref=sihp

Get it done and drop the puck!

Robert