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EricInCT

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A_Pharis said:
So you can white knight danimal, but no one can step up for someone who hasn't been given time to prove anything either way?

Oh, ok. Danimal made it EVERYONE's business the minute he posted about his woes publicly instead of handling it with the trade mods. If he - or you - don't want my opinion then foe me or stop acting like babies.


Like you said he probably had a quick flip or trading going (neither are illegal last I checked) and paid for express shipping and it was shipped reg mail.
The guy is dealing shady practices right there.
 

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EricInCT said:
A_Pharis said:
So you can white knight danimal, but no one can step up for someone who hasn't been given time to prove anything either way?

Oh, ok. Danimal made it EVERYONE's business the minute he posted about his woes publicly instead of handling it with the trade mods. If he - or you - don't want my opinion then foe me or stop acting like babies.


Like you said he probably had a quick flip or trading going (neither are illegal last I checked) and paid for express shipping and it was shipped reg mail.
The guy is dealing shady practices right there.


But hardly makes him a thief.
 

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You are all dead wrong. I hope he does come though and I get to eat a big crow sandwich. I will even request that i get a huge sig with "D-Bag of the Century" that automatically shows up when I post But I don't think that is going to happen. I guess FCB stands for "For Cheating Bastards" the way you are all slobbing on this guy's sack and making excuses for him! I was just trying to let folks know there was a scammer and thief out there! I have now learned my lesson and will let scammers scam away, when and if I find one in the future. It is obviously better to be sorry than safe on FCB! I guess the prudent thing to do wod have been to let him sell 8-9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have so that he could go buy a few to mail out to his early buyers!

And why would thefivemajors need to save the dc# I posted it in my thread so the whole Internet could see it!

So bring on the crow but I don't think it will be me eating it!
 

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danimal said:
You are all dead wrong. I hope he does come though and I get to eat a big crow sandwich. I will even request that i get a huge sig with "D-Bag of the Century" that automatically shows up when I post But I don't think that is going to happen. I guess FCB stands for "For Cheating Bastards" the way you are all slobbing on this guy's sack and making excuses for him! I was just trying to let folks know there was a scammer and thief out there! I have now learned my lesson and will let scammers scam away, when and if I find one in the future. It is obviously better to be sorry than safe on FCB! I guess the prudent thing to do wod have been to let him sell 8-9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have so that Wayne could go buy a few to mail out to his early buyer!

And why would thefivemajors need to save the dc# I posted it in my thread so the whole Internet could see it!

So bring on the crow but I don't think it will be me eating it!

Dude. Nothing has been PROVED, yet. One day, you're gonna be trashed when no one is around, and you'll really appreciate someone speaking up for you. You should have kept this between you, him and the trade mods until the end game could be resolved. As of right now, you're just a bag o' tools.

"8 or 9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have"?

Dude, he sold 5 and posted a pic of all of them. And - not to insult the handicapped - but are you mentally retarded?
 

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danimal said:
And why would thefivemajors need to save the dc# I posted it in my thread so the whole Internet could see it!


Just reread this.

You don't know why someone would keep a hard copy of a proof of shipment?

Yeah. That should tell everyone anything they need to know about your ability to trade competently.
 

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danimal said:
You are all dead wrong. I hope he does come though and I get to eat a big crow sandwich. I will even request that i get a huge sig with "D-Bag of the Century" that automatically shows up when I post But I don't think that is going to happen. I guess FCB stands for "For Cheating Bastards" the way you are all slobbing on this guy's sack and making excuses for him! I was just trying to let folks know there was a scammer and thief out there! I have now learned my lesson and will let scammers scam away, when and if I find one in the future. It is obviously better to be sorry than safe on FCB! I guess the prudent thing to do wod have been to let him sell 8-9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have so that Wayne could go buy a few to mail out to his early buyer!

And why would thefivemajors need to save the dc# I posted it in my thread so the whole Internet could see it!

So bring on the crow but I don't think it will be me eating it!

I agree with you...but you were still wrong for blasting him 5 minutes after he sold you the card.

Anyways, everything about this rose red flags, like the recycled pictures from eBay, then the pic from far away of the 5 and then the lying about the DC and all of that.

And for the people arguing about how the innocent don't come back and argue....he's innocent until proven guilty, true. We are at the point where cards should show up now if they really were sent. Id drop a negative on the guy just for promising overnight and not delivering on that. Thats a red flag too. All the guy did was buy himself some time to save face in the short term (it worked obviously, since people still think 5majors is solid) and he'll be gone with the $$$ in the longterm...
 

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I have tried to be the "good cop" in this whole thing, letting thefivemajors know that I would back him through the whole ordeal. The only problem is he is not responding (but has read) to my very polite PM's. I asked him if he could talk to his PO about possibly misplacing the packages etc but he refused to return my message. I understand some people are busy but he is facing a payout of well over $1,200.

On top of our agreed upon price, I paid $10 extra dollars for better shipping, insurance (to cover his butt), DC and SC. He decided to use no SC (even though Paypal asks for this on sales over $250), and no insurance.

I hope those that continue to defend the seller can look at the situation through the buyer(s) eyes as well. I truly hope that again it was all a shipping mishap over a busy July 4th holiday.

Thanks,

Joel



Label/Receipt Number: 9101 7850 9140 1578 7278 84
Class: Priority Mail®
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The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on June 29, 2010 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.
 

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A_Pharis said:
danimal said:
You are all dead wrong. I hope he does come though and I get to eat a big crow sandwich. I will even request that i get a huge sig with "D-Bag of the Century" that automatically shows up when I post But I don't think that is going to happen. I guess FCB stands for "For Cheating Bastards" the way you are all slobbing on this guy's sack and making excuses for him! I was just trying to let folks know there was a scammer and thief out there! I have now learned my lesson and will let scammers scam away, when and if I find one in the future. It is obviously better to be sorry than safe on FCB! I guess the prudent thing to do wod have been to let him sell 8-9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have so that Wayne could go buy a few to mail out to his early buyer!

And why would thefivemajors need to save the dc# I posted it in my thread so the whole Internet could see it!

So bring on the crow but I don't think it will be me eating it!

Dude. Nothing has been PROVED, yet. One day, you're gonna be trashed when no one is around, and you'll really appreciate someone speaking up for you. You should have kept this between you, him and the trade mods until the end game could be resolved. As of right now, you're just a bag o' tools.

"8 or 9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have"?

Dude, he sold 5 and posted a pic of all of them. And - not to insult the handicapped - but are you mentally retarded?


I myself am mentally disabled and take offence. Mods, please remove this individual.
 

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danimal said:
You are all dead wrong. I hope he does come though and I get to eat a big crow sandwich. I will even request that i get a huge sig with "D-Bag of the Century" that automatically shows up when I post But I don't think that is going to happen. I guess FCB stands for "For Cheating Bastards" the way you are all slobbing on this guy's sack and making excuses for him! I was just trying to let folks know there was a scammer and thief out there! I have now learned my lesson and will let scammers scam away, when and if I find one in the future. It is obviously better to be sorry than safe on FCB! I guess the prudent thing to do wod have been to let him sell 8-9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have so that he could go buy a few to mail out to his early buyers!

And why would thefivemajors need to save the dc# I posted it in my thread so the whole Internet could see it!

So bring on the crow but I don't think it will be me eating it!


So now you're bashing the whole board as apposed to the one guy. Thats nice
 

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bmc398 said:
danimal said:
You are all dead wrong. I hope he does come though and I get to eat a big crow sandwich. I will even request that i get a huge sig with "D-Bag of the Century" that automatically shows up when I post But I don't think that is going to happen. I guess FCB stands for "For Cheating Bastards" the way you are all slobbing on this guy's sack and making excuses for him! I was just trying to let folks know there was a scammer and thief out there! I have now learned my lesson and will let scammers scam away, when and if I find one in the future. It is obviously better to be sorry than safe on FCB! I guess the prudent thing to do wod have been to let him sell 8-9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have so that Wayne could go buy a few to mail out to his early buyer!

And why would thefivemajors need to save the dc# I posted it in my thread so the whole Internet could see it!

So bring on the crow but I don't think it will be me eating it!

I agree with you...but you were still wrong for blasting him 5 minutes after he sold you the card.

Anyways, everything about this rose red flags, like the recycled pictures from eBay, then the pic from far away of the 5 and then the lying about the DC and all of that.

And for the people arguing about how the innocent don't come back and argue....he's innocent until proven guilty, true. We are at the point where cards should show up now if they really were sent. Id drop a negative on the guy just for promising overnight and not delivering on that. Thats a red flag too. All the guy did was buy himself some time to save face in the short term (it worked obviously, since people still think 5majors is solid) and he'll be gone with the $$$ in the longterm...

He recycled a pic from eBay, which is questionable... but the pic "from far away" wasn't "from far away." You could clearly see 5 different sigs on 5 different cards along with the gold foiled autograph stamp (and the lack of a facsimile). I don't see where he lied about DC, though.. just that he didn't send express.

It's just too early to label him as a thief. Danimal started 10 mins after sending him the money.
 

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jbhofmann said:
I have tried to be the "good cop" in this whole thing, letting thefivemajors know that I would back him through the whole ordeal. The only problem is he is not responding (but has read) to my very polite PM's. I asked him if he could talk to his PO about possibly misplacing the packages etc but he refused to return my message. I understand some people are busy but he is facing a payout of well over $1,200.

On top of our agreed upon price, I paid $10 extra dollars for better shipping, insurance (to cover his butt), DC and SC. He decided to use no SC (even though Paypal asks for this on sales over $250), and no insurance.

I hope those that continue to defend the seller can look at the situation through the buyer(s) eyes as well. I truly hope that again it was all a shipping mishap over a busy July 4th holiday.

Thanks,

Joel



Label/Receipt Number: 9101 7850 9140 1578 7278 84
Class: Priority Mail®
Service(s): Delivery Confirmation™
Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on June 29, 2010 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.


I see your point and if I was a buyer I would of course be nervous until I had the card in hand.
 

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jbhofmann said:
I have tried to be the "good cop" in this whole thing, letting thefivemajors know that I would back him through the whole ordeal. The only problem is he is not responding (but has read) to my very polite PM's. I asked him if he could talk to his PO about possibly misplacing the packages etc but he refused to return my message. I understand some people are busy but he is facing a payout of well over $1,200.

On top of our agreed upon price, I paid $10 extra dollars for better shipping, insurance (to cover his butt), DC and SC. He decided to use no SC (even though Paypal asks for this on sales over $250), and no insurance.

I hope those that continue to defend the seller can look at the situation through the buyer(s) eyes as well. I truly hope that again it was all a shipping mishap over a busy July 4th holiday.

Thanks,

Joel


Label/Receipt Number: 9101 7850 9140 1578 7278 84
Class: Priority Mail®
Service(s): Delivery Confirmation™
Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on June 29, 2010 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.


That notice means he probably printed out a label from PayPal and the message was generated as such. Once, again, he may have printed the label on tuesday, but has stated he dropped them all off on Wednesday (and the other # shows acceptance on thursday). You're in the same boat as danimal, and I wouldn't say they weren't shipped just yet.
 

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wolfmanalfredo said:
danimal said:
You are all dead wrong. I hope he does come though and I get to eat a big crow sandwich. I will even request that i get a huge sig with "D-Bag of the Century" that automatically shows up when I post But I don't think that is going to happen. I guess FCB stands for "For Cheating Bastards" the way you are all slobbing on this guy's sack and making excuses for him! I was just trying to let folks know there was a scammer and thief out there! I have now learned my lesson and will let scammers scam away, when and if I find one in the future. It is obviously better to be sorry than safe on FCB! I guess the prudent thing to do wod have been to let him sell 8-9 more Strasburgs that he didn't have so that he could go buy a few to mail out to his early buyers!

And why would thefivemajors need to save the dc# I posted it in my thread so the whole Internet could see it!

So bring on the crow but I don't think it will be me eating it!


So now you're bashing the whole board as apposed to the one guy. Thats nice
He's speaking to the fact that everybody backed 5majors vs. him.

What he's not taking into account is how he acted like a ******, which puts others automatically against you leading them to ignore the arguement.

Also to APharis....I dunno how a blurry ass picture of 5 cards taken with a bad digital camera from 20 ft away exonerates you from anything. Just saying. Did it help him...sure. Was it cut and dry evidence....hells no.
 

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Wow... like BMB Part Duex...

At this point might be best to take this all to PM's without the flaming and HUGE WORDS... many are not doing FCB and themselves any favors...
 

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muchuckwagon said:
EricInCT said:
I myself am mentally disabled and take offence. Mods, please remove this individual.

I can certainly vouch for that fact! :o
I am sitting at my desk wearing my bicycle helmet , drinking my chocolate milk from my scooby-doo thermos.

But like I said I have learned my lesson that it is better to give a fraudster several weeks to perpetrate his fraud rather than squash it in 10 minutes! Thanks for the leason everyone!
 

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"I dunno how a blurry ass picture of 5 cards taken with a bad digital camera from 20 ft away exonerates you from anything. Just saying. Did it help him...sure. Was it cut and dry evidence....hells no."




I have to agree with this. With most people today having color printers he could have easily printed out 5 cards on regular paper stock and cut them out.
 
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