UD - Razor

[Bob Loblaw]

Brian Gray/Razor's silence on this board, and all other forums, continues to speak volumes.

 

[NECpilgrims8]

 

[rico08]

Brian Gray/Razor's silence on this board, and all other forums, continues to speak volumes.

When/why'd the Razor development board close? I just noticed.

 

[Therion]

Brian Gray/Razor's silence on this board, and all other forums, continues to speak volumes.

He actually posted on the Inkworks thread yesterday.

 

[walter55]

I still think the biggest thing that will come out of this is that MLBPA is pissed off at UD/Razor and will not renew their license leaving us with Topps as only producer of MLB cards.

 

[muskiesfan]

Clint- I used to defend UD a lot. Then people want to turn from UD bashing to bashing whoever is defending UD. In the long run, it just got to where it wasn't worth it. I prefer UD to Topps. I have had a ton of UD redemptions just like anyone else, but I have never once had a problem with UD filling it or replacing it with an equal or better card. I collect Topps because they have cards of my players on them, but when it comes to busting product there is really only one Topps product I like to bust: A&G. I would probably bust Triple Threads if I could afford it. :lol:

Sorry for getting off topic.


Joe

 

[flightposite]

I still think the biggest thing that will come out of this is that MLBPA is pissed off at UD/Razor and will not renew their license leaving us with Topps as only producer of MLB cards.

Agreed. Not to mention there were already rumors of a one company landscape and all the talk about UD's financial troubles.

 

[cgilmo]

Brian Gray/Razor's silence on this board, and all other forums, continues to speak volumes.

He actually posted on the Inkworks thread yesterday.

he hit the wrong button

he meant to PM

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Interesting. Maybe UD saw the writing on the wall and was one more reason to fund Razor, to screw both MLBPA and Topps?

I still think the biggest thing that will come out of this is that MLBPA is pissed off at UD/Razor and will not renew their license leaving us with Topps as only producer of MLB cards.

Agreed. Not to mention there were already rumors of a one company landscape and all the talk about UD's financial troubles.

 

[notjomommasclint]

Clint- I used to defend UD a lot. Then people want to turn from UD bashing to bashing whoever is defending UD. In the long run, it just got to where it wasn't worth it. I prefer UD to Topps. I have had a ton of UD redemptions just like anyone else, but I have never once had a problem with UD filling it or replacing it with an equal or better card. I collect Topps because they have cards of my players on them, but when it comes to busting product there is really only one Topps product I like to bust: A&G. I would probably bust Triple Threads if I could afford it. :lol:

Sorry for getting off topic.


Joe

joe... you can afford triple threads... you really dont need a car, a house, a wife, or food do you? i like topps and ud equally and think they both have major pros and major cons. there isnt any need for me to protect either on here because i protect them with my cashola!

 

[ajbraves25]

Judd weighs in

http://www.thesportscardfile.com/?p=347

Make of it what you will.

Your reason to open old cans or worms?

Weak.

Who is the woman in your sig? WOW!! ... I mean yeah who cares about the..the..what was this post about again?

~AJ

 

[cgilmo]

gina carano

 

[bballcardkid]

Here's what I think. Razor has absolutely NO obligation to inform us where they get the money to support their business. So when asked if they were backed by Upper Deck, I would not expect them to be up-front about it, because it's really none of our business. The only thing that should matter to us is the quality of the product they release.

+10000

This in no way should hurt the Razor name, in fact it should enhance it. This news could potentially catalyze a new interest in the Razor brand because people will in fact be buying a Razor/UD card.

Here is my question, why is it that Upper Deck couldn't do the same thing that Razor did with the exclusives? Sign a bunch of these guys and release a non MLB licensed product featuring college/high school jerseys? Forget the fact that they can't make licensed first year cards such as Topps. This would be completely different and wouldn't violate any rules with the MLBPA (I am assuming). Were the minor league products produced by UD from 1993-1997 (Upper Deck Minors, SP Top Prospects, etc.) MiLB licensed?

 

[ajbraves25]

gina carano

Oh the MMA fighter that doesn't have a company to fight with anymore? Oh well... Sorry to spoil the UD/Razor fodder..

~AJ

 

[NECpilgrims8]

gina carano

Oh the MMA fighter that doesn't have a company to fight with anymore? Oh well... Sorry to spoil the UD/Razor fodder..

~AJ

I think you mean the one MMA fighter I would LOVE to train jiu jitsu with.

She can put me in her guard any day of the week. HeHe

 

[ChasHawk]

This could all be explained again, but this is easier

::facepalm::

Here's what I think. Razor has absolutely NO obligation to inform us where they get the money to support their business. So when asked if they were backed by Upper Deck, I would not expect them to be up-front about it, because it's really none of our business. The only thing that should matter to us is the quality of the product they release.

+10000

This in no way should hurt the Razor name, in fact it should enhance it. This news could potentially catalyze a new interest in the Razor brand because people will in fact be buying a Razor/UD card.

Here is my question, why is it that Upper Deck couldn't do the same thing that Razor did with the exclusives? Sign a bunch of these guys and release a non MLB licensed product featuring college/high school jerseys? Forget the fact that they can't make licensed first year cards such as Topps. This would be completely different and wouldn't violate any rules with the MLBPA (I am assuming). Were the minor league products produced by UD from 1993-1997 (Upper Deck Minors, SP Top Prospects, etc.) MiLB licensed?

 

[ajbraves25]

gina carano

Oh the MMA fighter that doesn't have a company to fight with anymore? Oh well... Sorry to spoil the UD/Razor fodder..

~AJ

I think you mean the one MMA fighter I would LOVE to train jiu jitsu with.

She can put me in her guard any day of the week. HeHe

Yeah that one. To bad she won't be on tv anymore..Just heard that Kimbo will be on Ultimate Fighter trying to get a UFC contract.. WHY.. WHY.. WHY.. Does he really need to get his ass kicked again on national television? Does he think he can beat Mir or Lesnar? LOL.. What a joke..

But yeah she is a bad bad girl...

~AJ

 

[bballcardkid]

Explain it to me then thy beholder of knowledge...

This could all be explained again, but this is easier

::facepalm::

Here's what I think. Razor has absolutely NO obligation to inform us where they get the money to support their business. So when asked if they were backed by Upper Deck, I would not expect them to be up-front about it, because it's really none of our business. The only thing that should matter to us is the quality of the product they release.

+10000

This in no way should hurt the Razor name, in fact it should enhance it. This news could potentially catalyze a new interest in the Razor brand because people will in fact be buying a Razor/UD card.

Here is my question, why is it that Upper Deck couldn't do the same thing that Razor did with the exclusives? Sign a bunch of these guys and release a non MLB licensed product featuring college/high school jerseys? Forget the fact that they can't make licensed first year cards such as Topps. This would be completely different and wouldn't violate any rules with the MLBPA (I am assuming). Were the minor league products produced by UD from 1993-1997 (Upper Deck Minors, SP Top Prospects, etc.) MiLB licensed?

 

[walter55]

Here's what I think. Razor has absolutely NO obligation to inform us where they get the money to support their business. So when asked if they were backed by Upper Deck, I would not expect them to be up-front about it, because it's really none of our business. The only thing that should matter to us is the quality of the product they release.

+10000

This in no way should hurt the Razor name, in fact it should enhance it. This news could potentially catalyze a new interest in the Razor brand because people will in fact be buying a Razor/UD card.

Here is my question, why is it that Upper Deck couldn't do the same thing that Razor did with the exclusives? Sign a bunch of these guys and release a non MLB licensed product featuring college/high school jerseys? Forget the fact that they can't make licensed first year cards such as Topps. This would be completely different and wouldn't violate any rules with the MLBPA (I am assuming). Were the minor league products produced by UD from 1993-1997 (Upper Deck Minors, SP Top Prospects, etc.) MiLB licensed?

I am pretty sure they could but the MLBPA does not want them to do that and I would be willing to bet that they threatened to take away UD's license if they did. So instead of going directly against the MLBPA and risk losing their license they decided to covertly fund Razor. But the MLBPA caught them (hence the memo they sent out) and are most likely deciding what to do about the situation. Which I think will be to drop UD and then Topps will stand alone as sole MLB manufacturer.

 

[bballcardkid]

Here's what I think. Razor has absolutely NO obligation to inform us where they get the money to support their business. So when asked if they were backed by Upper Deck, I would not expect them to be up-front about it, because it's really none of our business. The only thing that should matter to us is the quality of the product they release.

+10000

This in no way should hurt the Razor name, in fact it should enhance it. This news could potentially catalyze a new interest in the Razor brand because people will in fact be buying a Razor/UD card.

Here is my question, why is it that Upper Deck couldn't do the same thing that Razor did with the exclusives? Sign a bunch of these guys and release a non MLB licensed product featuring college/high school jerseys? Forget the fact that they can't make licensed first year cards such as Topps. This would be completely different and wouldn't violate any rules with the MLBPA (I am assuming). Were the minor league products produced by UD from 1993-1997 (Upper Deck Minors, SP Top Prospects, etc.) MiLB licensed?

I am pretty sure they could but the MLBPA does not want them to do that and I would be willing to bet that they threatened to take away UD's license if they did. So instead of going directly against the MLBPA and risk losing their license they decided to covertly fund Razor. But the MLBPA caught them (hence the memo they sent out) and are most likely deciding what to do about the situation. Which I think will be to drop UD and then Topps will stand alone as sole MLB manufacturer.

Thanks for answering the question in a non asswhole fashion.