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boomo

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for as hyped as he was, he makes jd drew really look like mickey mantle.
.153 so far this year. hopefully harper is the same.
 

P_Manning 18

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for as hyped as he was, he makes jd drew really look like mickey mantle.
.153 so far this year. hopefully harper is the same.

But he has chrome autographs that sold for over $100. Clearly that many people couldnt have been wrong. Maybe its just a blip on the radar.
 

leatherman

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Here are the 20 "worst" players from 2009-2011, sorted by games played and including their Wins Above Replacement value:
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Rk                Player   G WAR/pos
1              Alex Rios 441    -0.6
2              Adam Dunn 439     1.4
3    Yuniesky Betancourt 437     0.2
4           Ryan Theriot 436     0.9
5        Orlando Cabrera 413    -0.3
6           Ty Wigginton 406    -2.8
7        Alfonso Soriano 401     2.0
8          Willie Harris 395     0.0
9            Juan Rivera 394     1.9
10         Garrett Jones 388     1.1
11            Jose Lopez 385     1.5
12          Delmon Young 385     1.3
13        Gordon Beckham 384     1.9
14          Ronny Cedeno 372     1.5
15           Jonny Gomes 366     0.9
16       Ryan Spilborghs 365    -2.9
17          Adam LaRoche 344     1.5
18       Alcides Escobar 341     2.0
19           Jorge Cantu 333     0.4
20          Carlos Gomez 328     2.0


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/29/2012.
 

egon8

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Here are the 20 "worst" players from 2009-2011, sorted by games played and including their Wins Above Replacement value:

Code:
Rk                Player   G WAR/pos
1              Alex Rios 441    -0.6
2              Adam Dunn 439     1.4
3    Yuniesky Betancourt 437     0.2
4           Ryan Theriot 436     0.9
5        Orlando Cabrera 413    -0.3
6           Ty Wigginton 406    -2.8
7        Alfonso Soriano 401     2.0
8          Willie Harris 395     0.0
9            Juan Rivera 394     1.9
10         Garrett Jones 388     1.1
11            Jose Lopez 385     1.5
12          Delmon Young 385     1.3
13        Gordon Beckham 384     1.9
14          Ronny Cedeno 372     1.5
15           Jonny Gomes 366     0.9
16       Ryan Spilborghs 365    -2.9
17          Adam LaRoche 344     1.5
18       Alcides Escobar 341     2.0
19           Jorge Cantu 333     0.4
20          Carlos Gomez 328     2.0
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Generated 4/29/2012.


And three of them are in the White Sox line up.
Sad days on the south side.:(
 

hive17

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Here are the 20 "worst" players from 2009-2011, sorted by games played and including their Wins Above Replacement value:

Code:
Rk                Player   G WAR/pos
1              Alex Rios 441    -0.6
2              Adam Dunn 439     1.4
3    Yuniesky Betancourt 437     0.2
4           Ryan Theriot 436     0.9
5        Orlando Cabrera 413    -0.3
6           Ty Wigginton 406    -2.8
7        Alfonso Soriano 401     2.0
8          Willie Harris 395     0.0
9            Juan Rivera 394     1.9
10         Garrett Jones 388     1.1
11            Jose Lopez 385     1.5
12          Delmon Young 385     1.3
13        Gordon Beckham 384     1.9
14          Ronny Cedeno 372     1.5
15           Jonny Gomes 366     0.9
16       Ryan Spilborghs 365    -2.9
17          Adam LaRoche 344     1.5
18       Alcides Escobar 341     2.0
19           Jorge Cantu 333     0.4
20          Carlos Gomez 328     2.0


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/29/2012.

What that tells you is how strong, defensively, guys like Beckham, Escobar and CarGo are, considering they are mostly free outs with the bat (maybe not Escobar this year so far).
 

leatherman

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What that tells you is how strong, defensively, guys like Beckham, Escobar and CarGo are, considering they are mostly free outs with the bat (maybe not Escobar this year so far).

Actually, Beckham's defensive WAR for that time period is why he is on that list: It is -1.5 over those three years (meaning he cost his team 1.5 games over a AAA replacement).
 

Superfractor

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Nov 14, 2009
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Here are the 20 "worst" players from 2009-2011, sorted by games played and including their Wins Above Replacement value:

Code:
Rk                Player   G WAR/pos
1              Alex Rios 441    -0.6
2              Adam Dunn 439     1.4
3    Yuniesky Betancourt 437     0.2
4           Ryan Theriot 436     0.9
5        Orlando Cabrera 413    -0.3
6           Ty Wigginton 406    -2.8
7        Alfonso Soriano 401     2.0
8          Willie Harris 395     0.0
9            Juan Rivera 394     1.9
10         Garrett Jones 388     1.1
11            Jose Lopez 385     1.5
12          Delmon Young 385     1.3
13        Gordon Beckham 384     1.9
14          Ronny Cedeno 372     1.5
15           Jonny Gomes 366     0.9
16       Ryan Spilborghs 365    -2.9
17          Adam LaRoche 344     1.5
18       Alcides Escobar 341     2.0
19           Jorge Cantu 333     0.4
20          Carlos Gomez 328     2.0


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/29/2012.

No, not Ryan Spilgorghs. :sad:
 

G $MONEY$

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for as hyped as he was, he makes jd drew really look like mickey mantle.
.153 so far this year. hopefully harper is the same.

Why would you want Harper to fail too? You do know its bad for the hobby as a whole when a "can't miss" prospect fails? Especially when that prospect is as big as Harper? Since you make your living off the hobby its just weird that you would want him to fail, but to each his own.
 
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