What would you do (and tell the truth)

[tonsofcommons]

I know as a dealer, I have had times where people found a deal because I packed up and put stuff in the wrong box (had a D Wade #ed rookie that booked at $40 at the time in my nickel box). I sold it to him and was like "whatever".

It was my own damn fault.

On that note, buy it and don't feel a bit of guilt.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

I'm not sure how most of you can sleep at night, these guy's are thier working very hard to earn an honest buck & you want them to take the time to look up every one of thier cards to make sure they're the correct sell price (Jeez, what has this world come to)??? If it were me & I found that Randy Johnson in a $5 box, I would not only tell him how much they go for but I would also give him the full amount for it to make up for him feeling uncomfortable/embarassed by not knowing what it goes for! You guy's should be ashamed of yourself....Think long & hard about the dealer's in this hobby & try to remeber when the last time one of them took advantage of you (or tried to do so)...Hmph, that's what I thought! :|













~Just in case anyone didn't catch the subtle hint of sarcasm above, I'm letting you know now! :lol: Hell if I was at a card show & saw that R.J. I would offer him $3.50 for it & if he didn't take it I would hand him over the $5 shaking my head in disgust the whole while! :twisted: :lol: (nowaday's most of the dealer's I've met at shows see show attendee's as $dollar signs$...It used to not be like this but for the most part, IMO, it has become alot less personal/friendly & all about what they can get from you- My opinion here guy's...& not all dealer's are like this, ~just the majority~)! :lol:

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I'm at a show where the dealers are expected to know the cards that they have?

Buy it and move on.

It's a much different scenario if it involves a collector who is not a dealer and rarely if ever sells anything. But in this case, the dealer (an assumed semi-expert) has a card priced so it's fair game.

 

[AmishDave]

Buy it an run.

+1

 

[AKT74]

I would buy the card, then ask for a beckett. Look up the value and show him. Then ask he would like to buy it for half book. He will find this very funny and you both will have a good laugh together. Good times good times.

 

[scotty21690]

I would buy the card, then ask for a beckett. Look up the value and show him. Then ask he would like to buy it for half book. He will find this very funny and you both will have a good laugh together. Good times good times.

Haha! Awesome post man..

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Meh, over time all these things even out. I know I've overpaid on a bunch of stuff, so its nice to get ahead once in a while. It's all part of the hobby and is to be expected to have extra fun and find bargains now and again.

 

[predatorkj]

Obviously, the seller has no idea they actually sell very high. Now, do you tell him and give him the card or buy it with the only intention of selling it (no PC for that one).

I can't honestly answer this because I don't ever buy anything to sell.If I did find this card or one comparable to what you mentioned...I'd buy it and be on my way.But not to sell.Here is my reasoning: If you are selling anything...its your job as the seller to know the market value on your items.Not mine.And it never will be any different.The only way I can see it being somewhat different is if you are dealing with a special situation.Say a little old lady is selling here husband's cards and she doesn't even know about beckett or the internet or ebay and she is in poor health so looking a bunch of stuff up is out of the question.Then...I'd have a little more sympathy.Then...I would probably tell her something along the lines of "You might want to have somebody appraise these for you before you sell.".

But if I am just at a show or a store or even dealing with another collector...I expect you to know what you want for them.Now...I won't lie to anyone if they ask me what something goes for.I have had people do that in the past.And I will tell them if I know.But I don't watch ebay enough to know what all the cards go for and have been in some situations where I didn't honestly know what to value the card at.And I hate giving a price on things that are low numbered because I have picked up cards numbered to /10 as cheap as $7 and some change and I have also payed through the nose for some so I never really know what to say.But in any case...its not my job to price your items for you.

I look at it this way...I have been stiffed a lot of times by dealers. I try not to screw anyone over.I try to get good deals and I never turn any sort of profit.So if I get a good deal...I normally never feel bad about it.And judging by all the "steal" threads around here...I would assume that a lot of you feel the same.




[/quote]I love digging through discount boxes, gu, auto, inserts, whatever and have found many cards worth a ton more than what I bought it for but never like the example above.
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I have also found many nice cards this way.But normally I end up buying a bulk amount and when I get home...sometimes I get curious and am amazed at what some of them actually go for.Every now and again I will see a little price sticker on the penny sleeve and it will have some ungodly amount(considering what the card actually appears to be) and then I look it up and I am like "wow"!But then again...that is only good if you believe in BV.

 

[hofautos]

Does a seller tell a buyer that he is paying too much?

 

[AmishDave]

Does a seller tell a buyer that he is paying too much?

You've been thanked.

 

[predatorkj]

I'd buy it.

If it were at a table with no price (where the guy fields offers like a lot of small shows do), I'd ask the guy what he wanted for it. If He honestly had no idea what he had and said "Name a price", I'd be more likely to say "That's worth way too much for me to even offer." At that point, he's probably inquire about its value, and I'd most likely tell him.
Now, with the card in a $5 set price box, then he has already determined that $5 is what would satisfy him for that card -- so why not?

You are a better man than me.If somebody at a show asks me to name a price...I usually walk.I don't like those games and when at a show...I have very little time for them as there are plenty of other sellers who actually have a price on their cards.

 

[predatorkj]

I am weird about these things. In the past I had a similar situation with a nonsport autograph. Dealer had it in a case that said $10 for anything in case. Show had just opened, otherwise the card in the case would have been GONE!

I wanted the card (can never really say I NEED a card), but my conscience wouldn't let me try to buy it. I told the dealer that the card regularly sold on ebay for $150+ at the time. He looked at the card and grabbed it up. I felt bad since he was a friendly guy. He was very thankful and offered to give me one of the $10 cards for free. Even then, I declined (I know, geekwimp :ugeek: ). He did give me a discount on a box later in the show and thanked me again.

I guess I knew that if I had gotten the card for the error price, I would have never felt right about it.

I believe it will come back to you.I really do.Doesn't mean I won't buy it.Just means I think I will end up paying for it later on.Sometimes the urge cannot be resisted.

 

[predatorkj]

How about this:

I know a guy who was set up at a flea market and some yahoo came by with 100+ 1909-1911 T-206's and he wanted $500. The buyer did the same thing I would have done and the same thing all of you would have done. I don't even have to say it. Now those 100+ T-206's (Cobb and Mathewson among others) are all slabbed.

So to answer your question, I would buy the $5 Red Crusade.

However, I do have a few honest bones in my body. Just last month I had my camera fixed and the charge was simply $5 but should have been $50. The guy just made a mistake when punching in numbers on his credit card machine. I told him and he was very thankful. It made my day that I was honest to him.

Been there done that.They almost gave us the center Diamond for my wife's wedding ring for free but I knew it was like a $2,000 diamond and I didn't need the legal trouble so I took it back.The lady would have lost her job as well.I had only paid for the engaement ring and the wedding band but not the center diamond.But they never took the diamond out and when I went to pick up what I had paid for...the diamond was still in it.Took a lot of arguing with my wife to convince her the best thing was to take it back.We don't need that kind of trouble.

 

[predatorkj]

How about this:

I know a guy who was set up at a flea market and some yahoo came by with 100+ 1909-1911 T-206's and he wanted $500. The buyer did the same thing I would have done and the same thing all of you would have done. I don't even have to say it. Now those 100+ T-206's (Cobb and Mathewson among others) are all slabbed.

So to answer your question, I would buy the $5 Red Crusade.

However, I do have a few honest bones in my body. Just last month I had my camera fixed and the charge was simply $5 but should have been $50. The guy just made a mistake when punching in numbers on his credit card machine. I told him and he was very thankful. It made my day that I was honest to him.

To me there's a difference between a guy hitting the wrong keys on a computer, and a guy who doesn't research what he's selling.

If I'm undercharged or get the wrong change when I'm paying for something (due to human error), I let them know and get it corrected as soon as I notice.

So when you get home from the grocery store and find out that they didn't charge you for a loaf of bread or a carton of eggs...you actually go back?I don't.Mostly because of gas and time.I might be more inclined to do it if I am still at the store but my wife is better at catching that than I am.Now if we are talking about several hundred dollars ...yeah..I am going back gas and time be damned.

 

[notjomommasclint]

as long as you do nothing to deceive the seller then there is nothing wrong with purchasing the card. it is his job to have the information to sell and price his product. on the same note there is nothing wrong with a seller pricing his item to high. i enjoy finding cards in the quarter bins that i can sell for $10-$20 bucks.

 

[jrinne]

I saw a guy pull a Reggie White autograph out of a dollar box 2 weeks ago. Card was signed on the back. He told the seller and his response was "I guess I missed that one, its yours for a $1".

 

[P_Manning 18]

I havnt read the replies...so dont know if this has been said....

If it was my current shop owner that I frequent all the time.. Id likely tell him.

If it was a random dealer at a show or first time in a guys shop.... Id buy and flip... no question.

 

[011873]

"....but isn't that why most anyone would spend hours searching through those boxes? You're either looking for some pc card or some amazing deal like that."

 

[sfnorton]

I actually had something kind of like this (well, not that big) happen this summer. I was on vacation and went to a tiny shop. They had the common auto/GU box that I was looking through and had a 2008 Johnny Podres Beam Team auto. Sure, I'll grab a good player's auto for $2.00. Wasn't tell I got home that I looked at the back and it was a 1/1 Platinum refractor. Sold it for $65. Probably would have mentioned something if I had noticed.

I actually have told booksellers if I find a 1st edition in their regular books and, likewise, have told them they are full of it when trying to pawn off non-first editions.

 

[011873]

It does depend on the situation like some have said.

More than likely, its going to involve a dealer who should know what he has.

Its happened to me several times, not even close to the example above though, regarding my rookie books.

I have forgotten to move cards from the $3 to $5 book or to showcase a card from the books if a guy comes from nowhere and gets blazing hot (Cliff Lee, Greinke, Victorino, etc.). No problem though.

But I did have an older lady come to my table AT A MALL SHOW many many years ago selling a collection of all pre war vintage cards, mega super stars at that and she asked me if I had interest. I didnt (and still dont) deal with that stuff then (and didnt have the cash anyway). I knew she was shopping around the cards and asked her what offers she got from other dealers and to say they were tryong to take her for a ride would be an understatement.

I really felt bad for her because she had no clue what she had so I told her to get a Beckett because they are trying to rip her off.

On the other hand, I cant tell you how many times Ive gone through discount/ blowout boxes (man do I LOVE those) and scored some big time deals. I do think it is the dealers responsibliltiy to know what they have and what price to put it at.

Now, on another hand, I had a young teen come to me years ago and asked if I had interest in his opened CASE of 2005 BC. Every single card, rookies too, were included minus any ref and auto. I believe he was looking for $40 (yes, $40 for the entire case worth of cards minus refs and autos).

I told him I couldnt give him $40 and when I said that he said "well I cant go lower than that".

I finished my sentance and offered him like $100. Im sure no one ever haggled with him to give him MORE than he was looking for.


Different situations call for diferent actions I suppose.