When to consider yourself a Supercollector?

[ASTROBURN]

Ive had a few sidebar conversations with Predator, and I enjoy his words of wisdom. And yes, for now I am able to still find Bagwell cards for relatively cheap. But soon the price scale will increase, and therefore my collection will hit a hill to climb. Just last night i went thru a fellow collectors needs list and it had been a while since I've seen an actual list of what Bagwells are out there. With over 6000 I dont ever expect to find them all, let alone own them all. I am glad to have joined this site, for I have come across more Bagwell collectors than I ever have come across before. And have had some great assistance with adding to my collection from some members here, for which I am grateful.

I'm just gonna sum up my opinion on the term supercollector like I had a few pages back:

So do I consider myself a super collector? Sure. I'm addicted to collecting Bagwell cards. And its a Super collection. One of the finest ones outside of Texas

Granted, I have just run across a Bagwell collector outside of Seattle. And after goin thru his extras, I feel my collection may not be as super as his. After coming across so many other Bagwell collectors, it makes me wanna take my site and run it like the JuanGone site. A meeting place and tracking system for just Bagwell collectors would be cool to start up.

 

[predatorkj]

Ive had a few sidebar conversations with Predator, and I enjoy his words of wisdom. And yes, for now I am able to still find Bagwell cards for relatively cheap. But soon the price scale will increase, and therefore my collection will hit a hill to climb. Just last night i went thru a fellow collectors needs list and it had been a while since I've seen an actual list of what Bagwells are out there. With over 6000 I dont ever expect to find them all, let alone own them all. I am glad to have joined this site, for I have come across more Bagwell collectors than I ever have come across before. And have had some great assistance with adding to my collection from some members here, for which I am grateful.

I'm just gonna sum up my opinion on the term supercollector like I had a few pages back:

So do I consider myself a super collector? Sure. I'm addicted to collecting Bagwell cards. And its a Super collection. One of the finest ones outside of Texas

Granted, I have just run across a Bagwell collector outside of Seattle. And after goin thru his extras, I feel my collection may not be as super as his. After coming across so many other Bagwell collectors, it makes me wanna take my site and run it like the JuanGone site. A meeting place and tracking system for just Bagwell collectors would be cool to start up.

Yeah...I'd be more interested in something like that than running my own site.

 

[predatorkj]

Sorry for the long posts guys. :lol:

 

[Mark70Z]

I enjoy reading your looooooong posts...

When I first started to collect there was at least a glimmer of hope to obtain every card of the player I collected (I didn't really even know, at the time, that there were some "really" rare issues out there). Of course today there's no way anyone, no matter what the budget, can obtain every card of even a single player; unless the player only last a "very, very" short period of time. I personally chose the player that I liked the most, so it really wasn't an option, in my view, of who I was going to collect. I really didn't start collecting cards either, mainly memorabilia of Brooks Robinson, i.e. photo's, magazines, posters, etc. when I first started. Maybe I'm a bit odd in the collecting world that I just can't purchase a card that I don't like... I just can't do it! So really no matter who we collect...the collection will never be complete.

Even though I'd love to obtain one of the high dollar cards I just think I could justify the expense (even in my mind...).

 

[predatorkj]

Man...that is why I said to just go for your own goals. I focus on Bagwell, and my sets...and then everything else just kind of falls into place. I love baseball cards(as well as other sports) and I absolutely love some of the stuff from the late 90's. So I do my obligatory thing with Bagwell(which is a 100% completion goal, obtainable or not), and then the rest of the players I collect, I just add cards that I think are nice. So personally, I've always got a few irons in the fire. My collecting never gets old, I never run out of stuff to add, and I'm always just plain involved. I have had to curb my habits because I don't want to be on the next episode of Hoarders. But I'm still able to keep this hobby fresh for myself.

I've never cared to be a super collector. I just felt a hardcore single player collection was a niche I liked. I have some nice cards from a lot of different players. But one of the aspects I wanted was to have a collection of one guy I really wanted to collect, and a guy who was in a lot of great sets, especially ones from the era mentioned above, and just go full force. I view it as nothing different than the casual player collections I have going or the sets I build. It's just a different niche. I know several people who do not collect one single player but rather teams or "good" players.

 

[Gwynn545]

I've never cared to be a super collector. I just felt a hardcore single player collection was a niche I liked.

Hey, if you want to be a "Hardcore Single Player Collector" go ahead!! But, what consitutes a "Hardcore Single Player Collector"...? When do you consider yourself a "Hardcore Single Player Collector"?

...Time for a new thread!

 

[Mark70Z]

See...that to me would be a much better term than "supercollector"..."hardcore collector"...hmm Seems like pred came up with a better name and he's already there (in my book at least). What year HOF for Bagwell?!?

Gwynn545 (gotta love Tony Gwynn) Awesome guy and player to collect...

 

[Donutme]

I don't think anyone should be considering themselves supercollectors of anything. Sounds a little conceited to me to label yourself a supercollector. To me the term should be given to someone by their collecting peers. I personally think there are plenty of supercollectors in this forum, but there is no exact science to how I determine who is or not. I guess it comes down to what others feel the term means or how one attains that status.

Personally, I think it is an overused term and is quite meaningless to true collectors.

I agree with these statements here.
I am pretty much a " Dedicated Player Collector " of Roger Clemens cards.
If someone thinks the collection is deemed "Super" so be it.
I think it is "Super" already because it is what I have collected. It is what I have vested time and energy in collecting. Like everyone here I enjoy the chase or tracking down of certain cards I need. I feel alot of members here on FCB have "Super Collections" and they are indeed "Super Collectors". It is my opinion when I view a photobucket just like it could be your opinion that a certain collection of cards is a "Super Collection".
It is all up to the viewer.
For those who want/need/or want to share that you are that "SuperCollector" you can sub your collection to Beckett to be recgonized. Get it published like some of you folks probably already have. Then you can have that label I guess that you might be looking for.

 

[JackLondon]

I've never cared to be a super collector. I just felt a hardcore single player collection was a niche I liked.

Hey, if you want to be a "Hardcore Single Player Collector" go ahead!! But, what consitutes a "Hardcore Single Player Collector"...? When do you consider yourself a "Hardcore Single Player Collector"?

...Time for a new thread!

While stated in jest, I think you are on to something here.

Hardcore collector is very descriptive and accurate. Looking through collections/posts here we all can tell who the hardcore collectors are. It is a better term than super collector and hard to argue with/about.

I am a Carew collector and a Fregosi collector, but wouldn't say hardcore, and that's okay (in Stuart Smalley voice).

 

[TomMurry]

I don't think anyone should be considering themselves supercollectors of anything. Sounds a little conceited to me to label yourself a supercollector. To me the term should be given to someone by their collecting peers. I personally think there are plenty of supercollectors in this forum, but there is no exact science to how I determine who is or not. I guess it comes down to what others feel the term means or how one attains that status.

I agree. If you know that you are a "supercolletor" theres no reason to need to tell others. Its pretty clear. I guess it comes down to those looking to make their collection better or those that are looking to share it with the community. People that collect are doing so for themselves, so theres no true need for a title. If youre an investor or you acquire items to show off to others, thats great too. That means you have a Super Collection, but doesnt make you a super collector.

 

[ASTROBURN]

I love baseball cards(as well as other sports) and I absolutely love some of the stuff from the late 90's. So I do my obligatory thing with Bagwell(which is a 100% completion goal, obtainable or not)

Sorry Pred, wont ever happen for you as long as I own this 1/1:

Once they started putting out the 1/1's, I knew I would never be able to get every card. But thats fine with me. I'll still collect his cards.

But one of the aspects I wanted was to have a collection of one guy I really wanted to collect, and a guy who was in a lot of great sets, especially ones from the era mentioned above, and just go full force.

Same here. Cool player, Cool team (well, most years), and some really cool cards. Been enjoying collecting his cards for almost 2 decades. (damn, i feel old now)

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Pinnacle really killed the "Super Collector" in 1997 when those bozos decided to put printing plates in packs.

until then, i had every pack issued Joe Sakic card produced. Plates killed that

 

[carlitoson]

Sorry Pred, wont ever happen for you as long as I own this 1/1: ...

Unless destroyed, every card in your collection will belong to someone else at some point. Every one.
edit...I guess you could have them buried with you. Ha.

BTW, I've been collecting ball cards for a very long time and I have a super collection.

 

[nosterbor]

Sorry Pred, wont ever happen for you as long as I own this 1/1: ...

Unless destroyed, every card in your collection will belong to someone else at some point. Every one.
edit...I guess you could have them buried with you. Ha.

BTW, I've been collecting ball cards for a very long time and I have a super collection.

Mine are going to the Smithsonian.

 

[Mark70Z]

The card companies have ultimately made it impossible to collect every card of the player. As an example with my B. Robby collection they make more cards of him in one year than they did in his entire playing career...and he's been retired for over 30 years! I personally don't really have too much of a problem with it since it always gives me more items to look for and then obtaining at least some of them.

Astroburn is correct...someone else will "ultimately" have the cards that you have once owned (for a season)...eventually. Hey, you might as well give that 1/1 Bagwell to pred now; why wait?!? (Just kidding of course... Then he'll still have an opportunity of owning them all.

 

[ASTROBURN]

^ as if predator didnt already have enough cards I dont have. This is my one and only card I know he doesnt have

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

I've never cared to be a super collector. I just felt a hardcore single player collection was a niche I liked.

Hey, if you want to be a "Hardcore Single Player Collector" go ahead!! But, what consitutes a "Hardcore Single Player Collector"...? When do you consider yourself a "Hardcore Single Player Collector"?

...Time for a new thread!

While stated in jest, I think you are on to something here.

Hardcore collector is very descriptive and accurate. Looking through collections/posts here we all can tell who the hardcore collectors are. It is a better term than super collector and hard to argue with/about.

I am a Carew collector and a Fregosi collector, but wouldn't say hardcore, and that's okay (in Stuart Smalley voice).

Whichever term is used and whatever one's feeling on the subject, perhaps the term 'supercollector' (or 'hard core collector') is to collector as collector is to the term 'casual collector'.

 

[predatorkj]

^ as if predator didnt already have enough cards I dont have. This is my one and only card I know he doesnt have

Honestly, I've got a handful of stuff that's not even numbered that you'd take forever in a day to find. I've looked at your website and you seem to have some of the same. Some of this stuff I've never seen again. Some of the stuff you have, I had just plain never even seen. Granted I've only been at it for what...4 or 5 years now. The good thing is...I've still got well over 3,000 cards to find before yours becomes an issue... :lol:

 

[Mark70Z]

Didn't know if you Bagwell guys would want to add yet another card, that neither one of you currently has, to your collection (190580613026 1993 Topps Blank Back Proof Card Jeff Bagwell ASTROS). You may of seen it already, but it didn't have any bids as of yet...I was considering entering the fray due to all of the Bagwell "supercollector" talk! (sorry...I mean hardcore collector talk!!). Oh, and lets face it, you "both" have a lot of Bagwell cards So...how many Bagwell collectors are out there you two?

Unique...it probably does have the same type of conotation; I personally just don't like the term "supercollector"...why not "advanced collector" or as pred stated "hardcore collector". Those examples a least seem less arrogant (at least to me).

 

[ASTROBURN]

I have seen a lot of "proofs" listed lately. One day, I will focus my collection on acquiring all the samples/proofs, but for now I'm just picking up all the cards I dont have that I can get on the cheap. So thats pretty much random cards. I do prefer to have a certain goal to achieve, like I did with the New Pinnacle cards with the different stats on the back. It felt good to have a certain goal instead of just trying to pick up random cards from the near 4000 I dont have. I think when a player collector reaches this point you need to come up with some sort of goal, or it just becomes overwhelming. Maybe I'll pull a page out of Grace's book and go for all the Pinnacle cards. Or, maybe just pick a year and focus on just the cards released that year. I tell you, after joining this site I have found myself just totally involved with my collection again after a few years of collecting drought. Cant thank you guys enough.

As for how many Bagwell collectors are there? Well, a whole lot more than I had thought, thats for sure. And I can live with just being a Bagwell Collector. Its good enough for my site name, so its good enough for me. I personally think that a Hardcore Collector could be used as reference to the collector who is hardcore enough to spend to get the card(s) they dont have yet. I cant pull the trigger on a ten dollar sample card, so I dont think I'm hardcore enough for that moniker.

How about I just go by Astroburn, that Bagwell collector up in Idaho...