Is it "immoral" to ask fair market value for your possessions?

[DeliciousBacon]

If I were in that guy's shoes, I'd meet Pujols, shake his hand, and give him my ebay ID so he can find the auction. Yeah, right, I'm going to give up a windfall to a rich guy who won't even remember my name in a week. Besides, I'm sure he wants to make sure he has plenty of room on his trophy shelf for all the non-existant WS trophies he'll win with the Angels.

 

[hive17]

I really don't care what people do, one way or the other. I personally think that it is more "important" to the player than it is to me. The meaning behind the ball is priceless to the player, and even a large chunk of money doesn't really mean anything to me. Maybe if I were there with a kid or something, it would be nice to get something for the kid. Really, I would want the experience, but not the hassle of getting a bunch of stuff and autographs or whatever from the player.

Actually, I would feel the team should pony up something decent for the person, not necessarily the player.

 

[tribefan26]

Any fan who would hold a player or team ransom is a complete *******. I don't care what anyone thinks.

They hold me ransom every time I choose to eat or drink at an MLB ballpark. Part of the deal is that I get to keep a ball that comes my way. If it is a foul from Joe Schmo I'm OK keeping - if it is future HoF I'm supposed to "give" at back?

Be careful dismounting your high horse.

 

[Super Mario]

They hold me ransom every time I choose to eat or drink at an MLB ballpark. Part of the deal is that I get to keep a ball that comes my way. If it is a foul from Joe Schmo I'm OK keeping - if it is future HoF I'm supposed to "give" at back?

Be careful dismounting your high horse.

Says the Indians fan.

 

[PoseyBuster]

They hold me ransom every time I choose to eat or drink at an MLB ballpark. Part of the deal is that I get to keep a ball that comes my way. If it is a foul from Joe Schmo I'm OK keeping - if it is future HoF I'm supposed to "give" at back?

Be careful dismounting your high horse.

Well put!!! I can literally buy a microbrew 6 pack for cheaper than one Crap Light at the park!!!

Says the Indians fan.

Jesus Christ man....... -eyeroll-

 

[Super Mario]

Well put!!! I can literally buy a microbrew 6 pack for cheaper than one Crap Light at the park!!!




Jesus Christ man....... -eyeroll-

Welcome back.

 

[PoseyBuster]

Welcome back.

Hey, thanks!

 

[nosterbor]

Do I think it is immoral for a fan who catches a baseball to not give it back if it is meaningful for the player who hit it?

No, I don't think it's immoral.



Do I think that fan's an ******* if they hold the baseball ransom and demand something in return for it?

Yes, yes I do.


The fan didn't do anything. They were just lucky enough to be sitting in the right seat. They didn't earn it. They didn't do anything special. They were just 'there'. To hold the player/team up for whatever they may want, then that's ridiculous.

Just don't be an *******.

Give the ball back, and you'll obviously get some nice things in return.


Who wants to be known as that ******* fan who doesn't do the right thing?

I may not make $100K a year, but I'd much rather be known as the gracious fan who gave Albert Pujols his baseball back out of the good will of my heart, than the fan who told him to XXXX off and earned $15K or whatever it would go for on the open market.


Rule #1 on this board and in life. Don't be a ******.

Wow ok then,paypal me 100k and you can call me an ******** all you want.

 

[PoseyBuster]

Wow ok then,paypal me 100k and you can call me an ******** all you want.

Dang man, Paypal me $10 and you can call me anything you want to!

 

[Super Mario]

After thinking about it, the only way I'm a jerk in this situation is if I catch a milestone home run ball from someone I completely despise. If Kenny Lofton, Jeff Kent or some other player who I've hated for years did something and wanted the ball back, and I was the one to catch it, I'd probably be stubborn as a mule and make my demands so ridiculous that they couldn't say yes.

That's with some deliberation on the matter.


I did like the idea of season tickets for life though.

 

[jrinne]

After thinking about it, the only way I'm a jerk in this situation is if I catch a milestone home run ball from someone I completely despise. If Kenny Lofton, Jeff Kent or some other player who I've hated for years did something and wanted the ball back, and I was the one to catch it, I'd probably be stubborn as a mule and make my demands so ridiculous that they couldn't say yes.

That's with some deliberation on the matter.


I did like the idea of season tickets for life though.

I just remember all the things that happened to the young man who caught Jeters ball. All the free stuff and then he was asked to pay the luxury tax on everything that was given to him. If he would have sold the ball at auction he wouldnt be living pay check to pay check.

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[Super Mario]

I just remember all the things that happened to the young man who caught Jeters ball. All the free stuff and then he was asked to pay the luxury tax on everything that was given to him. If he would have sold the ball at auction he wouldnt be living pay check to pay check.

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I don't recall that. Got a link?

 

[jrinne]

I don't recall that. Got a link?

Im sure there are other articles. I think he got enough donations to help pay off the tax.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/...rs-3000th-hit-may-have-to-pay-hefty-tax-bill/

 

[Super Mario]

Im sure there are other articles. I think he got enough donations to help pay off the tax.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/...rs-3000th-hit-may-have-to-pay-hefty-tax-bill/

They should make him pay taxes on the donations as well.

Kidding.

 

[RiceLynnEvans75]

I just remember all the things that happened to the young man who caught Jeters ball. All the free stuff and then he was asked to pay the luxury tax on everything that was given to him. If he would have sold the ball at auction he wouldnt be living pay check to pay check.

That whole thing was a freakin' joke and probably the reason why people just give the ball back to the players now. Would the player then have to pay a luxury tax on the ball in those instances?

IRS should be looking at Capitol Hill for all the back taxes they owe before going after some kid that got a baseball and, in the grand scheme of things, chump change. /rant

 

[predatorkj]

I'd actually be the kind to want to keep it. Imagine owning something like that? But the IRS would screw that up. So then what? Just give it up? Nope. I would if I could get an auto'd bat, ball, and one item worn during that at bat. It could be batting gloves, cleats, hat, or jersey. If I found out I'd have to pay taxes on that, then I might as well just sell the damn thing.

Which is weird because my first instinct is to keep it for my collection since I'm a collector and not a memorabilia dealer. But it's almost like you either get forced into selling it, or you get forced into giving it away. I'm not giving it away if anything for the simple fact that I'm not even able to do what I really want(which is keep it).

If that makes me an ass, so be it. It's not even about the money these guys make. And hey, it's not like the Astros have a fan base to even despise the team let alone go all Bartman on me.

 

[nappyd]

Says the Indians fan.

now now, visiting teams hit home runs in Cleveland...

 

[Crewfan82]

I would squeeze every penny out of that ball if I caught it. If anyone thinks Albert gives two xxxxx about either of those guys they are kidding themselves. Same goes for any player. These guys don't care about any of us. Why should we feel the need to do any thing special for them? "Do the right thing,"and give it back, give me a break.

Do the right thing by selling it and use the money to do something positive for your family.

 

[Super Mario]

now now, visiting teams hit home runs in Cleveland...

A LOT of them!

 

[SINFULONE]

I'd actually be the kind to want to keep it. Imagine owning something like that? But the IRS would screw that up. So then what? Just give it up? Nope. I would if I could get an auto'd bat, ball, and one item worn during that at bat. It could be batting gloves, cleats, hat, or jersey. If I found out I'd have to pay taxes on that, then I might as well just sell the damn thing.

Which is weird because my first instinct is to keep it for my collection since I'm a collector and not a memorabilia dealer. But it's almost like you either get forced into selling it, or you get forced into giving it away. I'm not giving it away if anything for the simple fact that I'm not even able to do what I really want(which is keep it).

If that makes me an ass, so be it. It's not even about the money these guys make. And hey, it's not like the Astros have a fan base to even despise the team let alone go all Bartman on me.

Long live Bartman!