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totran

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there seems to be allot of prospect knowledge on this forum. so as a new prospector i would like to learn fr you...

recently jordan schafer made the bigs and hit his home run first at bat. and ebay went crazy his cards selling double book i realize i may have missed the boat on that one,but i only have a well centered gradable x fractor

i like my cards but i know i shouldnt fall in love with them

so back to the start of this thread when do you let a card go?
 

totran

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mredsox89 said:
well if u think it will get a BGS 9.5 then i would suggest grading it. If you don't, or dont want to grade, I would move it now

yes that one card should make the grade but im talking more in general
 

Jays_Cards

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You move a card at the highest "hype" point. This can be at different times based on the player: Strasbourg autos right after the BBTN, yahoo, etc., Wieters after winning MiLB ROY, Schafer's home run, etc. This point is most commonly right around call up time, however.
 

mredsox89

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totran said:
mredsox89 said:
well if u think it will get a BGS 9.5 then i would suggest grading it. If you don't, or dont want to grade, I would move it now

yes that one card should make the grade but im talking more in general

I try to sell when the player gets the call to the bigs or makes the bigs out of ST. But it all depends on how much you have invested in the particular card. if you only have $5 in the card and it currently sells for $25, you have a 500% ROI, but if you don't sell, you are not risking that much
 

totran

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Jays_Cards said:
You move a card at the highest "hype" point. This can be at different times based on the player: Strasbourg autos right after the BBTN, yahoo, etc., Wieters after winning MiLB ROY, Schafer's home run, etc. This point is most commonly right around call up time, however.

ok i see the logic what if cal ripken jr had a bowman chrome auto way back when is there no player you hold onto for the long run or is prospecting just a constant buy sell scenario?
 

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totran said:
Jays_Cards said:
You move a card at the highest "hype" point. This can be at different times based on the player: Strasbourg autos right after the BBTN, yahoo, etc., Wieters after winning MiLB ROY, Schafer's home run, etc. This point is most commonly right around call up time, however.

ok i see the logic what if cal ripken jr had a bowman chrome auto way back when is there no player you hold onto for the long run or is prospecting just a constant buy sell scenario?

Prospects are very fickle. Prices usually explode when the get called up, and then drop drastically if they struggle at all out of the gate, pitchers especially. It is not uncommon to see a 40-50% drop in the price of a prospect card within a month after callup. Eventually, if the prospect puts together a good year or 2 like Braun and Longoria have done, prices will peak and maintain value.
 

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totran said:
Jays_Cards said:
You move a card at the highest "hype" point. This can be at different times based on the player: Strasbourg autos right after the BBTN, yahoo, etc., Wieters after winning MiLB ROY, Schafer's home run, etc. This point is most commonly right around call up time, however.

ok i see the logic what if cal ripken jr had a bowman chrome auto way back when is there no player you hold onto for the long run or is prospecting just a constant buy sell scenario?

ALWAYS sell during hype periods - by definition you will be able to rebuy later on for less, VERY FEW cards never experience dips.
 

totran

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Jays_Cards said:
totran said:
[quote="Jays_Cards":2ry7s2zy]You move a card at the highest "hype" point. This can be at different times based on the player: Strasbourg autos right after the BBTN, yahoo, etc., Wieters after winning MiLB ROY, Schafer's home run, etc. This point is most commonly right around call up time, however.

ok i see the logic what if cal ripken jr had a bowman chrome auto way back when is there no player you hold onto for the long run or is prospecting just a constant buy sell scenario?

Prospects are very fickle. Prices usually explode when the get called up, and then drop drastically if they struggle at all out of the gate, pitchers especially. It is not uncommon to see a 40-50% drop in the price of a prospect card within a month after callup. Eventually, if the prospect puts together a good year or 2 like Braun and Longoria have done, prices will peak and maintain value.[/quote:2ry7s2zy]

braun and longo are good examples i would love longos 2006 key card
and braun well im priced out of that one. but according to what im hearing i should sell every card i have at its first peak and keep nothing for the long term. id like to collect something rather than money for the next card.
 

Incline Investments

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I don't worry about peaks and hype and all that.

Let's say I buy a card for $20, and my goal is to make an ROI of 100%.

I sell that card for $40, NO MATTER WHAT. Once my goal is met, I don't think twice, I just sell it and move on.

Sometimes I miss out on big profits by selling early (Braun, Longo, Hanley) but I very rarely lose money because I held too long.
 

mredsox89

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totran said:
Jays_Cards said:
totran said:
[quote="Jays_Cards":2acawixw]You move a card at the highest "hype" point. This can be at different times based on the player: Strasbourg autos right after the BBTN, yahoo, etc., Wieters after winning MiLB ROY, Schafer's home run, etc. This point is most commonly right around call up time, however.

ok i see the logic what if cal ripken jr had a bowman chrome auto way back when is there no player you hold onto for the long run or is prospecting just a constant buy sell scenario?

Prospects are very fickle. Prices usually explode when the get called up, and then drop drastically if they struggle at all out of the gate, pitchers especially. It is not uncommon to see a 40-50% drop in the price of a prospect card within a month after callup. Eventually, if the prospect puts together a good year or 2 like Braun and Longoria have done, prices will peak and maintain value.

braun and longo are good examples i would love longos 2006 key card
and braun well im priced out of that one. but according to what im hearing i should sell every card i have at its first peak and keep nothing for the long term. id like to collect something rather than money for the next card.[/quote:2acawixw]

Well thats a different type of collector. Prospectors don't really hold anything long term if they want the best ROI which is the goal
 

Jays_Cards

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totran said:
Jays_Cards said:
totran said:
[quote="Jays_Cards":miyw8k69]You move a card at the highest "hype" point. This can be at different times based on the player: Strasbourg autos right after the BBTN, yahoo, etc., Wieters after winning MiLB ROY, Schafer's home run, etc. This point is most commonly right around call up time, however.

ok i see the logic what if cal ripken jr had a bowman chrome auto way back when is there no player you hold onto for the long run or is prospecting just a constant buy sell scenario?

Prospects are very fickle. Prices usually explode when the get called up, and then drop drastically if they struggle at all out of the gate, pitchers especially. It is not uncommon to see a 40-50% drop in the price of a prospect card within a month after callup. Eventually, if the prospect puts together a good year or 2 like Braun and Longoria have done, prices will peak and maintain value.

braun and longo are good examples i would love longos 2006 key card
and braun well im priced out of that one. but according to what im hearing i should sell every card i have at its first peak and keep nothing for the long term. id like to collect something rather than money for the next card.[/quote:miyw8k69]

Then you are not prospecting in its truest form. I do something similar to what you are wanting to do which is collect some of the real high end stuff and prospect more of the mid-midhigh end stuff.
 

totran

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LLWesMan said:
totran said:
Jays_Cards said:
You move a card at the highest "hype" point. This can be at different times based on the player: Strasbourg autos right after the BBTN, yahoo, etc., Wieters after winning MiLB ROY, Schafer's home run, etc. This point is most commonly right around call up time, however.

ok i see the logic what if cal ripken jr had a bowman chrome auto way back when is there no player you hold onto for the long run or is prospecting just a constant buy sell scenario?

ALWAYS sell during hype periods - by definition you will be able to rebuy later on for less, VERY FEW cards never experience dips.

very good point and logical thank you for that i now feel i can prospect and collect
 

totran

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plenty of useful info considering i dont know any of you i cant respond to all but thank you to all

for me i guess what makes most sense is to sell at the hype points and rebuy later on. even longos cards dipped

is the prospect handbook worth buying? i think there are two versions is one better than the other and what should i be looking for in it when im evaluating players?
 

totran

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thefasterblade said:
Sometimes the best time to sell is also the time to buy. Think about that.

huh? two tokes and pass you have been holding waaay to long
 

totran

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is the prospect handbook worth buying? i think there are two versions is one better than the other and what should i be looking for in it when im evaluating players?

any input on the above?
 

andyduke86

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Sell when the prices and hype are at their peak, you'll be able to buy back what you sold 2 months later at lower prices almost everytime.

And yes, the Baseball America Prospect Handbook is well worth the money.
 

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