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How is this BC Jesus Montero a BGS 10???
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mredsox89
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Also doesn't guarantee the same grade it was given during a RCR. Combined with the possibility or replacing the card with a lesser copy, I would stay far, far away from RCR. If you think it will gem, just send it to BGS, don't even bother with RCR.
Also doesn't guarantee the same grade it was given during a RCR. Combined with the possibility or replacing the card with a lesser copy, I would stay far, far away from RCR. If you think it will gem, just send it to BGS, don't even bother with RCR.
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looks pretty good to me, think the scan makes it seem off when its not. i dont know spit about grading though.
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justwar said:
Oh, i see it now... not a 10
ruffryder98499
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Centering could be 9.5 and the rest sub's 10....
sportscardtheory
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That is the penny sleeve you are seeing on the left. The glare is making it seem like it's the card.
chromerookies
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actually thats my card and as another poster suggested as being sliced open is wrong as I got this card graded at white plains a couple weeks ago and posted on here when I did.
Dan
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notjomommasclint
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get up in there and look at the top left corner... go from corner down and it appears fine to me... just an optical illusion the card appears off center but your getting a false left side...
chromerookies
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also, centering is NOT off, its the scan
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chromerookies said:
Sorry for causing any trouble to your auction bro. Not my intention. I took the scan and flipped a negative on it and it does appear that the left side looks bigger from the scan of the penny sleeve. So sorry bro.
Allen
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leatherman
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chromerookies said:
Thanks for informing us on the specifics of this card.
That being said, my advice to ANYONE is to NEVER buy an RCR card. The final grade is not guaranteed, and there are plenty of other unscrupulous sellers that will replace the pregraded cards with cards that were in a lesser condition.
One buyer a few years back paid through the nose for RCR 9.5s of both 1993 Jeter SPs and 1994 ARod SPs, only to have BGS inform the buyer that the cards had been replaced when they received the cards for slabbing. THOUSANDS of dollars were lost...I have no idea how it finally played out, but I know that Beckett was pretty quiet about it, worried that it might affect RCR submissions at future shows.
David
mredsox89
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leatherman said:
Yea, that was where I was going. Now that I zoom in on the scan I see that it was just an allusion.
leatherman said:
Im not sure if you are talking about the same case in New York. But when we where all on the BMB a Hockey collector got scammed this way as well. He traded away a Crosby/Ovechkin Cup Dual Logo (a card worth several thousand) for a bunch of these RCR BGS cards that had been sliced open and replaced with lesser condition ones.
Jurgy25
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Same guy has this one too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Bowman-Chrome- ... 3a5765a47d
Very surprising 9.5 grade with such poor centering.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Bowman-Chrome- ... 3a5765a47d
Very surprising 9.5 grade with such poor centering.
bradical
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I am guessing the Raw Card Review serial numbers are not the same as the BGS numbers. Because both of those cards not come back as those cards in the BGS Graded Card Lookup.
leatherman
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G $MONEY$ said:
Here is the instance to which you are referring: http://www.thecollectorsgroup.com/forum ... php?t=9109
I do remember another example involving SP Jeters and Arods, which is probably what the story above is referring to when they post the (expired) link to beckett.com.
David
chromerookies
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Jurgy25 said:
I actually have about 18 RCR 9.5's including Blue Heywards and 3 montero's.All were graded at the past 2 White plains shows.I would like to get them slabbed but don't wanna pay an additional $10 for each one plus shiping after I already paid $10.50 for each Auto and $7.50 for each non-auto. Do I send them as if they weren't graded or do I get some type of discount because they are already graded?
PLMK,
Thanks,
Dan
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chromerookies said:
Unfortunately, you get no discount. I would recommend sending them to Phil for the FCB sub, in the RCR holders. You can specify that you do not want them removed from the RCR holder unless they meet or exceed the grade on the RCR. It's the cheapest and fastest way to get them slabbed.
David
chromerookies
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leatherman said:
David,
Thank You for pointing that out to me. I will be doing that.
Dan
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