Were Razor Sports Icons authenticated?

Mighty Bombjack · Jul 16, 2010

I remember seeing that the 2009 version was promised to have been authenticated by either JSA or PSA/DNA. I don't recall a similar promise for this year's, but I'm 99.99% sure that this cut (photo taken from AIC's group break on the box break boards) ain't Jim Hunter's handwriting. It looks like it was taken from a random note or something.

I'm not here to bash Razor, but I would like to know about this set. Either I treat it like any other unauthenticated sig I'm considering purchasing, or JSA or PSA know something that I don't.

Your thoughts?

nbailey · Jul 16, 2010

What gawdawful quality control!
That's most definitely not Catfish Hunter's signature or handwriting.

It also shows the cozy relationship that Razor has built with Beckett. Only someone who thinks the Strasburg super was Gem Mint could believe this was a cut auto of Catfish.

George_Calfas · Jul 16, 2010

I would PM BG. I am almost positive that in the past he has been willing to correct any questionable autos.

17ROCKIES12 · Jul 16, 2010

Definitely not authentic. What else does it say? I can't read it.

Bob Loblaw · Jul 16, 2010

17ROCKIES12 said:
Definitely not authentic. What else does it say? I can't read it.

The bottom looks like it says "too big".

that's what she said

Bob Loblaw · Jul 16, 2010

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I'm sure this'll be fixed.

mwheeler27 · Jul 16, 2010

nbailey said:
What gawdawful quality control!
That's most definitely not Catfish Hunter's signature or handwriting.

It also shows the cozy relationship that Razor has built with Beckett. Only someone who thinks the Strasburg super was Gem Mint could believe this was a cut auto of Catfish.

FYI...the card itself is probably authentic. BGS only grades cards that they deem to be authentic. They make no claims as to the authenticity of the signatures in this product or any others.

Zan · Jul 16, 2010

The writing looks like some sort of note to me, like someone was giving direction in saying: "Catfish Hunter" is too big for some sort of document, because that's def not a signature.

zan

Vagrant · Jul 16, 2010

Wouldn't it be hilarious if that was an internal note by Razor saying that the selected cut was "too big" for the window and somebody threw that puppy into a cut auto by mistake.

Vagrant · Jul 16, 2010

Actually, that's exactly what it is. I just did some checking on the Razor Collectibles site and "ANG", mentioned is likely:

Angela Montgomery
Accounting & Customer Service
email: [email protected]

The note reads "See Ang, Catfish Hunter too big".

schillingfan · Jul 16, 2010

Vagrant said:
Actually, that's exactly what it is. I just did some checking on the Razor Collectibles site and "ANG", mentioned is likely:

Angela Montgomery
Accounting & Customer Service
email: [email protected]

The note reads "See Ang, Catfish Hunter too big".

:lol: :lol: :lol:

200lbhockeyplayer · Jul 16, 2010

That's a funny mistake and I don't doubt for a second that Razor will resolve that quickly.

mwheeler27 · Jul 16, 2010

Vagrant said:
Actually, that's exactly what it is. I just did some checking on the Razor Collectibles site and "ANG", mentioned is likely:

Angela Montgomery
Accounting & Customer Service
email: [email protected]

The note reads "See Ang, Catfish Hunter too big".

Now that is funny. It actually makes me want the card. Is it for sale?

Bob Loblaw · Jul 16, 2010

mwheeler27 said:
Vagrant said:

Actually, that's exactly what it is. I just did some checking on the Razor Collectibles site and "ANG", mentioned is likely:

Angela Montgomery
Accounting & Customer Service
email: [email protected]

The note reads "See Ang, Catfish Hunter too big".

Click to expand...

Now that is funny. It actually makes me want the card. Is it for sale?

Is this a Brian Gray Catfish Hunter auto?

Nobody's perfeckt.

mwheeler27 · Jul 16, 2010

I'm actually serious about wanting it. I love that card!

Mighty Bombjack · Jul 16, 2010

mwheeler27 said:
Vagrant said:

Actually, that's exactly what it is. I just did some checking on the Razor Collectibles site and "ANG", mentioned is likely:

Angela Montgomery
Accounting & Customer Service
email: [email protected]

The note reads "See Ang, Catfish Hunter too big".

Click to expand...

Now that is funny. It actually makes me want the card. Is it for sale?

It is in the hands of bmp1 as per AIC's group break.

AKA Coastal · Jul 16, 2010

lol, that's great. Honest mistake/goof-up. Still kinda funny.

PS: Nice research Vagrant.

PSS: How did this make it through BGS? no authenticating? Just slabbing?

mwheeler27 · Jul 16, 2010

AKA Coastal said:
lol, that's great. Honest mistake/goof-up. Still kinda funny.

PS: Nice research Vagrant.

PSS: How did this make it through BGS? no authenticating? Just slabbing?

Correct. BGS does not authenticate autographs. They only authenticate the cards.

Vagrant · Jul 16, 2010

mwheeler27 said:
AKA Coastal said:

lol, that's great. Honest mistake/goof-up. Still kinda funny.

PS: Nice research Vagrant.

PSS: How did this make it through BGS? no authenticating? Just slabbing?

Click to expand...

Correct. BGS does not authenticate autographs. They only authenticate the cards.

The same way they don't authenticate fake patches, only the card it came from. That is why people like that guy with those fireproof briefcases full of fake patches were so confused that their cards were fake, yet slabbed. This should be the go to example of that phenomenon.

Zan · Jul 16, 2010

AKA Coastal said:
lol, that's great. Honest mistake/goof-up. Still kinda funny.

PS: Nice research Vagrant.

PSS: How did this make it through BGS? no authenticating? Just slabbing?

I called it though!

:lol:

Zan said:
The writing looks like some sort of note to me, like someone was giving direction in saying: "Catfish Hunter" is too big for some sort of document, because that's def not a signature.

zan

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