2008 RAZOR SIGNATURE SERIES BASEBALL CHECKLISTAND INFO!.....

[ryanhoward06]

I guessing the surprise spot is Pedro Alvarez, that is, unless Topps actually signed a big guy other than Gordon Beckham from this years draft.

Pedro is listed in the checklist #102

Ah, my bad. I wonder how much money is invested in this checklist...The most in history I wager...

maybe, BUT dont hate us because we actually spend money to make products good!.... You guys are NOT IDIOTS.... Companies should NOT be able to make products worse and worse only to be met with acceptance....

We are YOUR company.... we listen.... Dont hate... Appreciate and embrace it!

I am available by phone at 214-393-4510 for anyone with questions ideas... BG

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

I have to agree with this. That doesn't make me not like them but it is getting old.

 

[Leaf]

As far as how cards are signed.... The order form shows trapped (window) signatures.... I cannot say more right now... BUT, as Ive stated 50 times, Im a prospector too and want this product to rock... quote]


So is that the big suprise "on-card"???? the one in which you said by release we will already know?

STOP IT.... you cant have it all on the first date!.... BE PATIENT!.. Brian

 

[Leaf]

So there are base autos of everyone you listed and then also XRS #d autos of those same players? Are both cards identical other than the fact that one is serial numbered?

different colors

 

[ahill1]

As far as how cards are signed.... The order form shows trapped (window) signatures.... I cannot say more right now... BUT, as Ive stated 50 times, Im a prospector too and want this product to rock... quote]


So is that the big suprise "on-card"???? the one in which you said by release we will already know?

STOP IT.... you cant have it all on the first date!.... BE PATIENT!.. Brian

 

[thefasterblade]

What is the estimated print run on base autos?

 

[Jaypers]

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

Would you prefer that he posted with a defeatist attitude? Would you buy the product if so?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I guessing the surprise spot is Pedro Alvarez, that is, unless Topps actually signed a big guy other than Gordon Beckham from this years draft.

Pedro is listed in the checklist #102

Ah, my bad. I wonder how much money is invested in this checklist...The most in history I wager...

maybe, BUT dont hate us because we actually spend money to make products good!.... You guys are NOT IDIOTS.... Companies should NOT be able to make products worse and worse only to be met with acceptance....

We are YOUR company.... we listen.... Dont hate... Appreciate and embrace it!

I am available by phone at 214-393-4510 for anyone with questions ideas... BG

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

With this, I wholly agree. I got the vibe as well. I spoke with Brian for 40 minutes or so last month and he didn't come off as he did on this board. Neither do I, for that matter. He's confident in his product, and it comes off as annoying smugness here. I addressed this exact point with him; I don't remember the resolution, if there was one. It was his attitude on the board that turned me off to the product. I'm neither a supporter or a "hater". I have a case on order, I think, from AIC, and we'll see how it does. Again, I wish Brian well.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

Would you prefer that he posted with a defeatist attitude? Would you buy the product if so?

Jean Paul, there are many ways to be confident, and sound confident, without being arrogant and coming off that way.

 

[Leaf]

I guessing the surprise spot is Pedro Alvarez, that is, unless Topps actually signed a big guy other than Gordon Beckham from this years draft.

Pedro is listed in the checklist #102

Ah, my bad. I wonder how much money is invested in this checklist...The most in history I wager...

maybe, BUT dont hate us because we actually spend money to make products good!.... You guys are NOT IDIOTS.... Companies should NOT be able to make products worse and worse only to be met with acceptance....

We are YOUR company.... we listen.... Dont hate... Appreciate and embrace it!

I am available by phone at 214-393-4510 for anyone with questions ideas... BG

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

Ill make you a challenge.... Ill break 70 bxs Bowman Draft and 50 bxs of Razor on you tube with witnesses. Well list EVERY AUTO CARD (and base chromes) on ebay.. wanna bet which has a better return???? Id put my money where my mouth is.... My 500 autos vs. their 70 autos plus base chromes isnt even a match....LOL

But seriously, we arent trying to be smug... we just live in a cynical world... and why shouldnt we... the companies have continued to deliver worse products and we just eat it up.... ENOUGH ALREADY!.... How did you do breaking bowman chrome????

If anyone isnt so sure about Razor, I urge you NOT to buy the product. Wait and see how it does.... I have a feeling those pessimists will be pleasantly surprised..... Let the product do the talking?????

 

[Leaf]

What is the estimated print run on base autos?

Varies from 499 - up.... all numbered

 

[Frow]

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

I don't think it's smugness....I think they and other members are tired of people pointlessly attacking this product for no reason at all. I don't think it's too much to ask for people to be decent to them or to stop making off the wall accusations of what their business model is by people whom haven't the slightest idea.

 

[Jaypers]

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

Would you prefer that he posted with a defeatist attitude? Would you buy the product if so?

Jean Paul, there are many ways to be confident, and sound confident, without being arrogant and coming off that way.

Jeffrey, I'm not picking up this implied arrogance at all. He's a salesman, and comes off that way to me here. Maybe you're seeing it because Topps Reps don't use this sort of sales pitch, but when you're starting out at the bottom of the heap and trying to plant your flag in the draft picks market, you do whatever you have to do to get noticed.

 

[Brett Keith]

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

Would you prefer that he posted with a defeatist attitude? Would you buy the product if so?

So being smug or being defeatist are the only options? Well...if it works in politics.

 

[soccerman034]

JP- No, but is the smugness really needed? Give us information on the product, and try and make a good impression with the public; they are the new kid on the block after all. I get the feeling that he, and several on these boards, devoutly beleive that Razor can do no wrong when it is very possible the whole thing could blow up in everyones face. Again, I don't want that to happen, but it could.

 

[Jaypers]

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

Would you prefer that he posted with a defeatist attitude? Would you buy the product if so?

So being smug or being defeatist are the only options? Well...if it works in politics.

Sure, there's always the option of being completely dispassionate. I don't think anything less than a lot of enthusiasm will help sell your product, though.

 

[Leaf]

[quote="soccerman034":7w6gr5qq]I guessing the surprise spot is Pedro Alvarez, that is, unless Topps actually signed a big guy other than Gordon Beckham from this years draft.

Pedro is listed in the checklist #102

Ah, my bad. I wonder how much money is invested in this checklist...The most in history I wager...

maybe, BUT dont hate us because we actually spend money to make products good!.... You guys are NOT IDIOTS.... Companies should NOT be able to make products worse and worse only to be met with acceptance....

We are YOUR company.... we listen.... Dont hate... Appreciate and embrace it!

I am available by phone at 214-393-4510 for anyone with questions ideas... BG

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

With this, I wholly agree. I got the vibe as well. I spoke with Brian for 40 minutes or so last month and he didn't come off as he did on this board. Neither do I, for that matter. He's confident in his product, and it comes off as annoying smugness here. I addressed this exact point with him; I don't remember the resolution, if there was one. It was his attitude on the board that turned me off to the product. I'm neither a supporter or a "hater". I have a case on order, I think, from AIC, and we'll see how it does. Again, I wish Brian well.[/quote:7w6gr5qq]


Thanks for the post, hopefully those who find us smug or arrogant will take the time to call and chat... I am literally sitting here taking every call that comes in to talk to fans/collectors. I hope they take away from that that we are here to do GOOD THINGS.
BG

 

[Bob Loblaw]

[quote="soccerman034":10r0tyja]I guessing the surprise spot is Pedro Alvarez, that is, unless Topps actually signed a big guy other than Gordon Beckham from this years draft.

Pedro is listed in the checklist #102

Ah, my bad. I wonder how much money is invested in this checklist...The most in history I wager...

maybe, BUT dont hate us because we actually spend money to make products good!.... You guys are NOT IDIOTS.... Companies should NOT be able to make products worse and worse only to be met with acceptance....

We are YOUR company.... we listen.... Dont hate... Appreciate and embrace it!

I am available by phone at 214-393-4510 for anyone with questions ideas... BG

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

Ill make you a challenge.... Ill break 70 bxs Bowman Draft and 50 bxs of Razor on you tube with witnesses. Well list EVERY AUTO CARD (and base chromes) on ebay.. wanna bet which has a better return???? Id put my money where my mouth is.... My 500 autos vs. their 70 autos plus base chromes isnt even a match....LOL

But seriously, we arent trying to be smug... we just live in a cynical world... and why shouldnt we... the companies have continued to deliver worse products and we just eat it up.... ENOUGH ALREADY!.... How did you do breaking bowman chrome????

If anyone isnt so sure about Razor, I urge you NOT to buy the product. Wait and see how it does.... I have a feeling those pessimists will be pleasantly surprised..... Let the product do the talking?????[/quote:10r0tyja]


I thought you weren't opening your own product.

 

[Jaypers]

JP- No, but is the smugness really needed? Give us information on the product, and try and make a good impression with the public; they are the new kid on the block after all. I get the feeling that he, and several on these boards, devoutly beleive that Razor can do no wrong when it is very possible the whole thing could blow up in everyones face. Again, I don't want that to happen, but it could.

See my posts above.

 

[Leaf]

I am not hating, I am merely pointing out an obvious flaw in Razors business plan. Do I want to see you guys fail? Absolutely not; more companies = better products (its the same principle that fuels capitalism). To be completely honest, I get a annoyingly smug vibe from a lot of the posts you and Razor supporters from these boards make, and it makes it easy to dislike the company and the product. I find it interesting that several members seem to be completely and utterly devoted to a product that is FAR from a sure thing.

Would you prefer that he posted with a defeatist attitude? Would you buy the product if so?

Jean Paul, there are many ways to be confident, and sound confident, without being arrogant and coming off that way.

Jeffrey, I'm not picking up this implied arrogance at all. He's a salesman, and comes off that way to me here. Maybe you're seeing it because Topps Reps don't use this sort of sales pitch, but when you're starting out at the bottom of the heap and trying to plant your flag in the draft picks market, you do whatever you have to do to get noticed.

+1 I think this is VERY well said and accurate.

 

[Leaf]

JP- No, but is the smugness really needed? Give us information on the product, and try and make a good impression with the public; they are the new kid on the block after all. I get the feeling that he, and several on these boards, devoutly beleive that Razor can do no wrong when it is very possible the whole thing could blow up in everyones face. Again, I don't want that to happen, but it could.

I agree with you 100%.... There are risks.... BUT, we are big boys and willing to bet on the public wanting solid value!

Isnt there also always the risk collectors will wakeup and see the lack of value in some commonly IDOLIZED products?????? BG