2010 Topps Lincoln Mystery Solved

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Regardless of assumed value...I believe that these exist in the same numbers as the pie variations. Scarce, but not impossible.

Why haven't more shown up? It was a public mystery until what, two days ago? The first couple should end over a $100, then settle down in the $40-50 range like the lesser pie variations.

 

[TomMurry]

I think youre exactly right. there arent any listed because most people dont know about it yet. When people start going through their base cards, they will start showing up.
Tom

 

[chiefer77]

I've made contact with Beckett, they are going to add it into thier database and the I am exchanging emails with Chris Olds, editor of Beckett. I gave him every bit of information I have including links to this thread and one on tops that I started. I gave him the pictures that I have all shown you and just now provided him with a clean scan of the card. If the editor of Beckett is interested, I have to assume that this is a good thing.

 

[HPC]

I've made contact with Beckett, they are going to add it into thier database and the I am exchanging emails with Chris Olds, editor of Beckett. I gave him every bit of information I have including links to this thread and one on tops that I started. I gave him the pictures that I have all shown you and just now provided him with a clean scan of the card. If the editor of Beckett is interested, I have to assume that this is a good thing.

Hopefully Topps will release some info soon!

Im excited to hear what is said about it

 

[A_Pharis]

I've made contact with Beckett, they are going to add it into thier database and the I am exchanging emails with Chris Olds, editor of Beckett. I gave him every bit of information I have including links to this thread and one on tops that I started. I gave him the pictures that I have all shown you and just now provided him with a clean scan of the card. If the editor of Beckett is interested, I have to assume that this is a good thing.

Oh, you have soooooo much to learn.

Like the fact that Beckett will quote posts on their MB in the magazine as though they were direct questions, yet they only pull in their favor.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

If Olds and the Beckett staff hadn't heard of this until today...then they are even more jaded than I thought. Olds always seems to be on top of these things...so clearly the cave has gotten deeper there if this is truly to case.

That said, to the OP, I hope you have a Beckett account if you want any recognition for assistance.

 

[HPC]

That said, to the OP, I hope you have a Beckett account if you want any recognition for assistance.

Definitely agree

 

[chiefer77]

I've made contact with Beckett, they are going to add it into thier database and the I am exchanging emails with Chris Olds, editor of Beckett. I gave him every bit of information I have including links to this thread and one on tops that I started. I gave him the pictures that I have all shown you and just now provided him with a clean scan of the card. If the editor of Beckett is interested, I have to assume that this is a good thing.

Oh, you have soooooo much to learn.

Like the fact that Beckett will quote posts on their MB in the magazine as though they were direct questions, yet they only pull in their favor.

I don't expect that they would, I just wanted to give them as much information as I could. I do have a Beckett account.

 

[clarkfan]

I know very little about variations and the re-sell values of such, but I would disagree with anyone who thinks this card is only gonna be $50 to $100. The "Abe Lincoln" thing was talked about so much in the 2010 Topps cards, everyone was looking through their commons with an eagle eye trying to find one of the variations, even if they weren't sure of the player. If this card wasn't crazy CRAZY rare, a lot more of them would have surfaced. Even the fairly common Hornsby sold well when people were assuming it was the Abe variation. I am guessing the Bradley's are quite a bit rarer than the Pie cards. And "the player" means nothing. So what if its Bradley, the set collectors won't care. It could be the checklist card with Abe's name mentioned on it and it would still sell high. I personally can't wait until the first one gets listed, it will definitely surpass the $100 level. And I would agree, more will surface after the first one finally gets listed, but this is so much rarer than the Jeter variation. And will probably sell high for a long time unless Topps shoots themselves in the foot and re-releases it in their Factory Sets or something that significantly increases the amount put into the market.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I know very little about variations and the re-sell values of such, but I would disagree with anyone who thinks this card is only gonna be $50 to $100. The "Abe Lincoln" thing was talked about so much in the 2010 Topps cards, everyone was looking through their commons with an eagle eye trying to find one of the variations, even if they weren't sure of the player. If this card wasn't crazy CRAZY rare, a lot more of them would have surfaced. Even the fairly common Hornsby sold well when people were assuming it was the Abe variation. I am guessing the Bradley's are quite a bit rarer than the Pie cards. And "the player" means nothing. So what if its Bradley, the set collectors won't care. It could be the checklist card with Abe's name mentioned on it and it would still sell high. I personally can't wait until the first one gets listed, it will definitely surpass the $100 level. And I would agree, more will surface after the first one finally gets listed, but this is so much rarer than the Jeter variation. And will probably sell high for a long time unless Topps shoots themselves in the foot and re-releases it in their Factory Sets or something that significantly increases the amount put into the market.

I completely disagree with the assumption that these are more rare than the pie variations. From a production sense, they were probably on the same press sheets and no more/less rare.

I agree that the first couple will break $100, but the cards will surface from people's common stacks and the price will drop. They almost always do with these manufactured variations.

 

[chiefer77]

So many nay sayers. lol. Look, yes, I am hoping for a decent value to this card, it would be really cool for sure, but I'm a collectore, not an investor. Just having the card is pretty cool to me. If the card is worth a decent amount, I could probably be pursuaded to sell it but, I really don't know until that happens. I alread have one guy that will pay a decent price for it now.

 

[HPC]

So many nay sayers. lol. Look, yes, I am hoping for a decent value to this card, it would be really cool for sure, but I'm a collectore, not an investor. Just having the card is pretty cool to me. If the card is worth a decent amount, I could probably be pursuaded to sell it but, I really don't know until that happens. I alread have one guy that will pay a decent price for it now.

I dont think anyone is saying you wont get some decent coin for it when you first sell it, people are questioning the rarity and price after it settles down.

If you have a good offer take it!

 

[KLARNOLD]

Someone better hurry and sell quickly to Keith Olbermann. He was paying well for the 2006 Topps Alex Gordon cards when they were first discovered.

 

[chiefer77]

Oh I know, I was just messing around with the naysayers comment. Everyone has a right to question the rarity until it's proven otherwise. I am hoping that with Beckett looking into it, Topps will make some sort of press release but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[clarkfan]

I guess time will show how rare this card actually is. But on any given day you search ebay, there is probably 25 to 30 Pie Face variations. I have a buddy that has a good handful of them. Not a single one of the Bradley's has even been listed?? Only a small handful are known at this point and I totally agree, more will definitely surface, but as many collector's that scour through this particular set looking for those announced variations, I would think more would have shown up by now, if they were on the same press sheet or rarity as the Pie Faces. Who really knows exactly, is still is too new. But I know if I was lucky enough to pull one, I wouldn't trade 1 Bradley for 10 Pie Face variations.

It comes down to this:

A rich person wants to put together a master set. His money gets all the Pie Face variations he wants to bid on. With no Bradley's listed "for sale" yet, a rich man will struggle to find 1 of those. But of course, as hype builds, these will start coming out, but I bet this is more of a $750 to $1000 card (at least initially) than a $50 to $100 Pie Face card. Just an opinion, but no matter what, I'll enjoy watching one of them finally get listed so I can watch it sell. Maybe I'll go buy a lottery ticket (a pack of 2010 retail) and just try to get lucky.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Topps will mix up the print runs on these SPs/SSPs - - - just to keep people guessing. If the print runs of these cards become too predictable, nobody is going to go crazy for them, because they will know what to expect. On the other hand, if Topps once in a while mixes things up and only releases 5 copies of the SSP, that card will always be valuable. Furthermore, the *next* year when/if Topps releases an SP/SSP again, people will be more inclined to jump on it because they'd still have the previous year's SSP fresh on their minds...even if a ton were created that subsequent year.

Its all designed to keep you interested in the cards, and predictability won't do that from a marketing standpoint, which is why I believe all the assumptions as to the card's print run being high are probably off-base this year.

I guess time will show how rare this card actually is. But on any given day you search ebay, there is probably 25 to 30 Pie Face variations. I have a buddy that has a good handful of them. Not a single one of the Bradley's has even been listed?? Only a small handful are known at this point and I totally agree, more will definitely surface, but as many collector's that scour through this particular set looking for those announced variations, I would think more would have shown up by now, if they were on the same press sheet or rarity as the Pie Faces. Who really knows exactly, is still is too new. But I know if I was lucky enough to pull one, I wouldn't trade 1 Bradley for 10 Pie Face variations.

It comes down to this:

A rich person wants to put together a master set. His money gets all the Pie Face variations he wants to bid on. With no Bradley's listed "for sale" yet, a rich man will struggle to find 1 of those. But of course, as hype builds, these will start coming out, but I bet this is more of a $750 to $1000 card (at least initially) than a $50 to $100 Pie Face card. Just an opinion, but no matter what, I'll enjoy watching one of them finally get listed so I can watch it sell. Maybe I'll go buy a lottery ticket (a pack of 2010 retail) and just try to get lucky.

 

[chiefer77]

I'm pretty sure Beckett is going to run something on this. Mr. Olds seems pretty interested in it. Just for sheet and giggles I called a few card shops, one in Las Vegas to see if they have heard of or seen it and they didn't have a clue it existed.

 

[A_Pharis]

I'm pretty sure Beckett is going to run something on this. Mr. Olds seems pretty interested in it. Just for sheet and giggles I called a few card shops, one in Las Vegas to see if they have heard of or seen it and they didn't have a clue it existed.

Are you plugging this so hard to get attention to make it sell for more? We've established it's an SP. What more is there?

 

[HPC]

I'm pretty sure Beckett is going to run something on this. Mr. Olds seems pretty interested in it. Just for sheet and giggles I called a few card shops, one in Las Vegas to see if they have heard of or seen it and they didn't have a clue it existed.

Are you plugging this so hard to get attention to make it sell for more? We've established it's an SP. What more is there?

Its no different than Jdachuna talking about Montero every chance he gets

 

[TomMurry]

I bet this is more of a $750 to $1000 card (at least initially) than a $50 to $100 Pie Face card.

What do you want to bet? No chance this is going to sell for that kind of money.