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scotty216brs

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I don't recall Loney getting enough playing time to earn a GG.
I see.

I know Loney is not a power hitter, but what does he bring to the plate? Anything of value?

I wonder where he will be slotted in the lineup....6th maybe?
 

MojoDan

Active member
Aug 22, 2008
30,348
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They spent 2-3 years courting Gonzo, deal away Rizzo and Lars, and now he may be headed out of town? Frustrating!
 

vwnut13

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Vermont
This is what he will bring to the table.

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AndruwHRJones

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Ellsbury's value is not based off his HR totals. Just sayin'....

So what would it be based on, his inability to stay healthy from year to year? No way he signs an extension, Boras wants him to go free agency. As a Sox fan, I don't want him for the money he is going to want. I don't personally believe he is a 32 HR guy and if you think he contract is not going to reflect that, you are crazy.
 

alexs64

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I see.

I know Loney is not a power hitter, but what does he bring to the plate? Anything of value?

I wonder where he will be slotted in the lineup....6th maybe?

He has power, he is not as consistent as anyone would have liked him to be. I think he gets by on talent and needs to produce. I always feel like we are giving on away when he is in the line up. Although he always beats down the Diamondbacks for some reason. LOL
 

TNP777

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With the Dodgers still making moves, and expanding their luxury tax bill, I hate Melky even more.
Ron, there's something to be said about clubhouse chemistry, though. The Giants obviously have it (not that the otherworldly pitching staff doesn't help!). I am "forced" to watch the Giants darn near every night, and it's obvious to me that these guys really enjoy playing together. They also have a hugely supportive fan base, and I believe that goes a long way with those guys.

Time will tell if the Dodgers can make this huge player turnover count with a little over a month to go.
 

matchpenalty

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If this trade goes through does it mean that the Sox sign Ellsbury long term?

No, everybody knows Ellsbury wants out of Boston and going to FA market. We all know who his agent is. Some sucker team will overpay for him and all his injuries. They should look to deal him this off season and take best deal. He is walking anyways.
 

scotty216brs

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They spent 2-3 years courting Gonzo, deal away Rizzo and Lars, and now he may be headed out of town? Frustrating!
Yeah the Sox have no one in the farm system to play first besides Gomez (and Ortiz) to play 1B if Gonz and Punto get traded. Loney will start obviously, but that's not great depth, lol.
 

matchpenalty

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Sox will make a nice run at Hamilton. Although, not sure he would work in Boston. Ellsbury will net them a good player or two. Have to give Ben credit for getting these guys out of Boston who don't want to be here and stealing money.
Sox fans are so feed up with this bozo no class team. Rumor was the Pesky funeral was last straw. Wouldn't even be surprised if Pedroia gets moved this off season. Team needs a fresh start without these players thinking they run the team.
 

MojoDan

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Sox will make a nice run at Hamilton. Although, not sure he would work in Boston. Ellsbury will net them a good player or two. Have to give Ben credit for getting these guys out of Boston who don't want to be here and stealing money.
Sox fans are so feed up with this bozo no class team. Rumor was the Pesky funeral was last straw. Wouldn't even be surprised if Pedroia gets moved this off season. Team needs a fresh start without these players thinking they run the team.

Good lord if I that happens my head is going to explode.
 

scotty216brs

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So what would it be based on, his inability to stay healthy from year to year? No way he signs an extension, Boras wants him to go free agency. As a Sox fan, I don't want him for the money he is going to want. I don't personally believe he is a 32 HR guy and if you think he contract is not going to reflect that, you are crazy.
Ellsbury can be healthy long term, assuming he doesn't get run into by teammates or fallen on by second basemen.

He is not a power hitter, but his value is in his legs. His speed alone is worth a decent contract and he is easily one of the best leadoff hitters in baseball. I don't think he will get offered a Gonzalez-esque contract but I can see the Sox offering 5yrs/$85million. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't work out a deal....but I guarantee they make him a solid offer especially if they free up a ton of $ from this trade. If he wants more than $100mil then he might have to find another team because the Sox have Bradley waiting in their wings and I don't see him playing corner OF.
 

ballerskrip

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So, if the white sox trade Crawford, GOnzo, Beckett, and ellsbury (as some are requesting), your team is less talented than the Orioles. Where do they go from here? And I would suggest laying off the pipe dream of Josh Hamilton.
 

scotty216brs

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Good lord if I that happens my head is going to explode.
Yeah no kidding. It would be weird watching the Sox without Pedroia.


I also don't think they will make a run at Hamilton. I have to ask though.....who plays Left Field next season?
 

shepsspot

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So, if the white sox trade Crawford, GOnzo, Beckett, and ellsbury (as some are requesting), your team is less talented than the Orioles. Where do they go from here? And I would suggest laying off the pipe dream of Josh Hamilton.

I know an honest mistake, but it's the Red Sox.

Also who else is a big FA next year, no way the Sox don't make some big splash in the off season.

Person that comes out of this the best IMO is David Ortiz.
 

MojoDan

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So, if the white sox trade Crawford, GOnzo, Beckett, and ellsbury (as some are requesting), your team is less talented than the Orioles. Where do they go from here? And I would suggest laying off the pipe dream of Josh Hamilton.

They'd better tint them Red.
 

scotty216brs

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I know an honest mistake, but it's the Red Sox.

Also who else is a big FA next year, no way the Sox don't make some big splash in the off season.

Person that comes out of this the best IMO is David Ortiz.
Looks like Ortiz came off the DL too early, you see him leg out that double earlier? Yikes...but yeah he will be re-signed.

I think the Sox might sign a high $ player or two this offseason but NOT long term. Damn, I sure hope they learned their lesson.
 

matchpenalty

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So watching the overpaid loser team was fun??? these guys sucked and acted entitled all year. Everybody has been wanting them to clean house. They needed to do this. I'm stunned Dodgers want this salary and these guys. I'm shocked.
Ellsbury doesn't want to be here in Boston. He has made that pretty clear. Heck he didn't even want to be around the team last year. He already has made it know his contract starts at what Crawford got. He thinks he is getting 6 yr 140++ mil. No way Sox even consider it. He still probably wouldn't even take Sox offer just so he can get out of town. Some team might give him something close. Why do you want a player who doesn't want to be here????
 

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