RITM
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Now that I just wrapped up the 2009 Topps Chrome Blue Refractor set, I'd love the chance to do a 2010 version.Groat said:200lbhockeyplayer said:I would expect Topps to pony up the funds for Upper Deck's license.
Could be, and I'd rather have Topps Chrome than nothing.
tenclubber said:This whole thing sucks. No more UD and no more Topps. I am really going to miss Exquisite and Topps / Bowman Chrome.
RITM said:Will be interesting to see how UD goes the collegiate route as they said on facebook. Maybe they saw the writing on the wall so to speak which brought about the Shout Outs in Ultimate and the collegiate themes cards coming out in Sweet Spot.
sffanmike25 said:RITM said:Will be interesting to see how UD goes the collegiate route as they said on facebook. Maybe they saw the writing on the wall so to speak which brought about the Shout Outs in Ultimate and the collegiate themes cards coming out in Sweet Spot.
Hopefully UD can continue on with that a bit beyond Sweet Spot.
If UD can bring out a college rookie brand similar to what they did with 2003 Ultimate Collection (the rookies that were in college unis in that set), throw in the Shout Out concept into that, I think it'd sell well early on.
goldenegg1 said:Sad day for football collectors.
Warrens All Stars said:goldenegg1 said:Sad day for football collectors.
Sad era for card collectors in general. And dealers like myself - it's rough when everyone's used to choices & suddenly they don't have any. It shows how completely out of touch the leagues are with all of us. They are clueless about cards & collecting. ::facepalm::
Sports Card Radio said:Like so many companies, Upper Deck took advantage of a bubble in a market and did not build a sustainable business model in the process. We saw it in 2000 with dot.coms that blew up overnight and made NBA owners out of domain squatters. We saw it with almost every major bank in late 2008 when outstanding home loans were not the treasure chest families and stuffy businessmen thought they were.
Sure Upper Deck has NCAA, Entertainment and a Hockey license (for now) but they also have multi-million dollar exclusive athlete contracts, an expensive multi-million dollar office building and a CEO that spends more money tipping the doorman at his Manhattan sky-rise than most people make in a month. Not to mention there isn't a lawyer in New York that will represent the company considering the outstanding legal bills that the company fails to pay year after year.
Small-to-Medium print run products like Sweet Spot and Hockey don't even put a dent in the companies bottom line. The company admits themselves that massive print-run products like Upper Deck Series 1 Baseball are the only configurations that allow the company to make a huge profit because Wal-Mart and Target are buyers. The company has no ability to make sets like this any longer. The company can survive in its current state only by printing mass numbers of cards and filling higher end product with redemptions for cards they know will never be fulfilled...those days are done.
Bottom line is if this company doesn't downsize to the Razor's, TriStar's, Press Pass, SAGE and ITG's of the card manufacture world ... we'll be talking about another company 'buying' up what's left of Upper Deck.
My message to the Upper Deck Fans ... this isn't personal ... its business.
RITM said:At what point do collectors need to start getting concerned over this impacting collection value? A lot of us have some high dollar cards from the likes of UD. If this goes long term what impact if any does it have on the high end stuff we already own?
deceptikon1978 said:Isn't it possible for UD to keep making the same sets, just college based?
Sure some collector's wouldn't like it, but why not a college themed SPA, Ultimate, Exquisite...
Slette said:deceptikon1978 said:Isn't it possible for UD to keep making the same sets, just college based?
Sure some collector's wouldn't like it, but why not a college themed SPA, Ultimate, Exquisite...
If UD has to go the NCAA-only route, they picked a good year to do it for you, at least, with Clausen and Tate coming out. You should have some pretty nice stuff to go after.