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Jastermereel said:
Just for the record, my initial post was simply asking if they had found a new stash of stuff to list. I wasn't trying to start a tidal wave of hate posts concerning their prices.

No, same cards new groupings. Many are now listed by day by player, some still by set. Also some of the non-superstars have lower prices.
 

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VizquelCollector said:
OK, I'm ready for the tomatoes to come flying my way, but I like 'em. I haven't found anyone else that has their quality, so I save up and buy the cards I want. Maybe I'm lucky because the players I collect usually are lower $. And my dealings with Stephen have always been very good. That said, they no longer have a single card for sale that I need. :)

I'm kinda with you. Unfortunately their prices for Erstad cards are pretty far out of line. Several years ago (2002 ish) they were probably right on.

Here's to hoping that I find cards they have cheaper... or they lower their prices. It is nice knowing that someone actually has stuff I need though :lol:
 

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they have 46 cards i need, along with the other Juan collectors that need them also. at a total cost of $12,726. none of those are 1/1's , and just 1 serial numbered to 3.
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For me, unlike most, I don't hate them for thier prices. However, if you want me to spent $50 $75 put a quit swearing scan up. Don't list it until you have a scan available. You only have to add a scan once, then continue to relist it. Don't tell me that with the overhead, and prices they are charging they don't have time or money to add a scan.
 

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Exposfan said:
For me, unlike most, I don't hate them for thier prices. However, if you want me to spent $50 $75 put a quit swearing scan up. Don't list it until you have a scan available. You only have to add a scan once, then continue to relist it. Don't tell me that with the overhead, and prices they are charging they don't have time or money to add a scan.
very true!! when you get a rare card not commoms, scan it right there and then. i can scan, crop, and inhance and store a card in less than 60 sec.
 

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nosterbor said:
Exposfan said:
For me, unlike most, I don't hate them for thier prices. However, if you want me to spent $50 $75 put a quit swearing scan up. Don't list it until you have a scan available. You only have to add a scan once, then continue to relist it. Don't tell me that with the overhead, and prices they are charging they don't have time or money to add a scan.
very true!! when you get a rare card not commoms, scan it right there and then. i can scan, crop, and inhance and store a card in less than 60 sec.

Many of these rare cards came from a multi-million dollar, multi-million card collection from Hawai'i. Yes they should have more scans but these guys have a TON of irons in the fire.

One of the cards I bought several months back had slight damage to it, but it was rare and I needed it. I sent them an email and received a partial refund. Also, if you have bought from them in the past and they know that you are not wasting their time they will scan for you.......but they will not scan 10 $20 cards for you when you might buy one, not their style.

Eric, I agree......or again place a deposit.
 

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ThoseBackPages said:
offer them cash for scans if you're that hard up for a scan

So I should have to pay them money for the privilege seeing what I plan spending my hard earned money on?

Seriously?
 

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JoshHamilton said:
ThoseBackPages said:
offer them cash for scans if you're that hard up for a scan

So I should have to pay them money for the privilege seeing what I plan spending my hard earned money on?

Seriously?


if one is that hard up for scans, then yes.

and if its hard earned money, then perhaps cardboard isnt the way to go?
not saying YOU, speaking in general
 

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George_Calfas said:
Jastermereel said:
Just for the record, my initial post was simply asking if they had found a new stash of stuff to list. I wasn't trying to start a tidal wave of hate posts concerning their prices.

No, same cards new groupings. Many are now listed by day by player, some still by set. Also some of the non-superstars have lower prices.

Not my guys unfortunately. However, I'd guess that 20% of my player collections have come from Burbank. Not only do they have cards I need, they have cards I need that other sellers wouldn't even bother listing. You gotta be a big d*ck player to throw up some of the cards they do and be able to sit on them for years at a time waiting. But they've been able to out-wait me every time. I might be that 1 collector in 100,000 willing to shell out $100 for a low numbered Jeff Cirillo card and when I'm ready to spend, I know where to go first. They ship fast and I've never had a problem from them. In fact, because I paid more, some of the cards mean more to me. They HAVE added value to the hobby and that's a great thing. You should see some of the "Who?" cards I have locked up under Fort Knoxx conditions. I'm rambling. Bottom line, I love having them around
 

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ThoseBackPages said:
JoshHamilton said:
ThoseBackPages said:
offer them cash for scans if you're that hard up for a scan

So I should have to pay them money for the privilege seeing what I plan spending my hard earned money on?

Seriously?


if one is that hard up for scans, then yes.

and if its hard earned money, then perhaps cardboard isnt the way to go?
not saying YOU, speaking in general

Hilariously ironic, Eric, considering you buy graded cards, a portion of the hobby where you can buy sight unseen and you DON'T have to worry about overgraded cards. At least in theory
 

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JoshHamilton said:
ThoseBackPages said:
JoshHamilton said:
ThoseBackPages said:
offer them cash for scans if you're that hard up for a scan

So I should have to pay them money for the privilege seeing what I plan spending my hard earned money on?

Seriously?


if one is that hard up for scans, then yes.

and if its hard earned money, then perhaps cardboard isnt the way to go?
not saying YOU, speaking in general

Hilariously ironic, Eric, considering you buy graded cards, a portion of the hobby where you can buy sight unseen and you DON'T have to worry about overgraded cards. At least in theory

this is true. at the same time, most would call me moronic for collecting in such a manor lol
 

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JoshHamilton said:
ThoseBackPages said:
offer them cash for scans if you're that hard up for a scan

So I should have to pay them money for the privilege seeing what I plan spending my hard earned money on?

Seriously?

At least you stick to your guns about not buying from them

Others still pay the prices and bitch

...Nosterbor: dont buy cards without scans then. That's the risk you take buying sight unseen.
 

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ThoseBackPages said:
in the end, its all cardboard.

99.9% of americans would call any one of us idiots for spending real US Dollars on cardboard pictures of males.

good stuff. thanks for the laugh.
 

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Kennesawsportscards said:
Burbank is very successfull in what they do. They have found a niche in the hobby, stuck to a very successful formula and obviously, this works for them.............How many of you guys would pay someone to sort 10- 5000 count boxes of 1991 Upper Deck commons??????????? Most would probably throw it in the trash. Burbank puts their money where everyone else's mouth is and I respect that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It doesn't mean that I like their prices however.

Just because some don't like their prices, it doesn't matter to them, Same with me..If you don't like my prices online or in my retail store, that is OK........One customer might think I am overcharging for a card and then the next customer may buy that same card......One might want a card for 50 cents and the next customer may pay 250.00 for the same PSA10 of the same card>>>>>>>>>This is what the free market system is all about and why I like it.......

I personally think that we need more people like Burbank in the hobby. At least they are placing value in the hobby instead of blowing out everything and devalue the hobby. No wonder why the hobby has shrink!!!!!!!!!!!!

One final thought.........There is a place in the market for a Yugo and also a place for a Ferrari. Burbank has found both.......Sounds like alot of Yugo complaining buyers out there.

Bryan


I think I may have actually purchased some cards from you in the past off of ebay. Not bad either.

But I don't see what burbank is doing to be helpful to the hobby. The only thing they offer is rare cards. Want some rare cards collectors need? Everyone in the last 5 years that has opened a wax box has probably got at least a handful of cards other folks need. If I pull a card of a player I don't collect and its numbered to /25...just because I put some insane price tag on it does not help the hobby. Multiply that by millions(as it seems burbank has rare stuff out the ass) and it still doesn't help increase the value of the cards.

I get people that see my miniscule collection and they instantly think its worth a lot. In reality...it really isn't worth much at all. But the rule of thumb I always tell them is that its not worth a dime more than somebody(actually multiple sombodies) would pay. I always use the 52 topps Mantle(even though I'll never even get close to owning one) as an example. You might have one and it might be gem mint 10 quality. But its still only worth what somebody will pay. Even if somebody buys one at a million dollars...the entire rest of the hobby may balk at it. So you got one guy willing to pay a million. Does that mean its worth a million to the rest of the world? Hell no.

You could equate this to everything in life. Even homes that were built and people trying to sell them for $500,000. Yeah...I still see quite a few of them unsold around here. Now they are in a major bind and the prices have dropped like a hot rock on its way to hell. See...in any industry...you will eventually bow to the market. You don't make it or create it. It merely allows you to exist within its own boundaries. If walmart started selling stuff at crazy prices and there were other options would you buy from them? Maybe if you really needed it. But if there are other options and you can afford to wait(like about 99% of us can) then you are still going to trash talk them. They may sell some stuff. But people will wait. And on all the Bagwell stuff I need...I'll wait. There are other options.

Putting an insane price on something does nothing but screw up the hobby. Looking for deals or not. It just screws up the hobby. Its one of the mega reasons I didn't even want to get back in. You flip open a beckett and suddenly every fricking card listed is worth $20-$40? Uh how about no. People still buy from them yes. But people buy from the grocery store I used to work at even though their prices were high. Yes they sell. But their sales are nowhere near what they could be. Does that mean that the value of the groceries went up? Hell no. It means other grocery chains are making way more money while the place I was at is constricted within their own pricing confines.
 

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HPC said:
People complaining about scans, when you have an inventory in the millions, I guarantee you wouldnt scan every card for every person that asks
I am not normally in the trend of buying things that are high dollar without at least wanting to see them. How many times do you do that in real life? Ever buy a plasma tv without knowing what it looks like? Ever buy a car(which you could if you added up all the cards I need from them that are not scanned) without looking at it first? Hell...you even get to test drive a car right? Come on.

I think it's ridiculous for someone to say "BOYCOTT BURBANK", just because youre pissed off that you cant afford/have the card.
For many...its not that we couldn't afford the card. Its that its way out of the realm of reality. You saying that would be like me going to a store and bitching about a can of shaving cream that they want $200 for. And then the clerk telling me I am just mad because I can't afford it? Uh...no...how about you charge the $4 like the rest of the world does. It doesn't mean I couldn't afford it.

BTW, if everyone on this board boycotted them, their prices still would be the same.

And im sure theyve seen the many threads on here already
 

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Philip J. Fry said:
A lot of people are too used to getting steals or deals on their cards and so when Burbank comes along, they are against paying that price. I should know, I'm one of them. But when you have a card that hasn't popped up on eBay or anywhere else before and all of a sudden they have it, it's hard not to buy from them.

I really don't feel that way. In fact...as soon as I see something pop up in an auction or outside of burbank...I never expect a good deal. I get them yes. But I know its pure idiocy to expect one every time. There is a difference between getting a good deal and getting ***** on a card price. And eventually everything pops up at one time or another.
 

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With all the truly bad sellers out there (trimmers, patch fakers, pre-sell thieves), it's amazing that we still get a Burbank witchhunt every month.

The WORST that can be said about them is that they ask a lot of their cards. They ship what they say they're going to ship, and do so securely and promptly. To me, that makes them a solid seller. Whatever they want to price their cards at is their own business.
 

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maxpower said:
With all the truly bad sellers out there (trimmers, patch fakers, pre-sell thieves), it's amazing that we still get a Burbank witchhunt every month.

The WORST that can be said about them is that they ask a lot of their cards. They ship what they say they're going to ship, and do so securely and promptly. To me, that makes them a solid seller. Whatever they want to price their cards at is their own business.


I personally haven't had this problem but a lot of people are more than concerned with the condition some of these cards arrive in. You pay a good amount for a card...you want a good looking copy. I have never heard of anybody picking up any trimmed or altered cards from them but if they don't have the time to scan their product...who is to say that some of this garbage couldn't slip in? My local card shop owner says he doesn't even have the manpower to comb over every high end collection he buys(which the collections are significantly smaller than what Burbank buys up). I seriously don't see Burbank being able to pull it off either.

I think if they took just a little more effort and if they were just a little bit more reasonable, people would shut their traps and get their wallets out.
 

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